Apakah CVT lebih baik dari A/T konvensional??

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emangnya evo x 2nd brapa bro??gw juga lagi racunin bokap buat gatiin gd3 ama fd1 2nd :big_peace:
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libas trus bang putik...hehehehe......
oiya..jadi kesimpulannya, utk mobil sekelas, x-trail to new cr-v. cvt vs 5 a/t....kebykan member rekomen cvt?:)
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ALTIMIT wrote:emangnya evo x 2nd brapa bro??gw juga lagi racunin bokap buat gatiin gd3 ama fd1 2nd :big_peace:
Ha ha ha seluruh tahun 2008 ada 215 Lancer kejual. Data penjualan Evo X nggak disebut, tapi jangan2 bekas balapan semua (kalau ada).
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ALTIMIT wrote:emangnya evo x 2nd brapa bro??gw juga lagi racunin bokap buat gatiin gd3 ama fd1 2nd :big_peace:
wah... saat ini ga ada bro... makanya saya nunggu mungkin tahun2 depan ada yg jual 2nd. kalo ga salah sih masih waiting list saat ini utk unit baru nya... hanya ada buat testdrive aja. ga tau kenapa... :)
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lho?pak putik bukannya sdh punya?:) :big_smoking:
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ZombiEE wrote:lho?pak putik bukannya sdh punya?:) :big_smoking:
waks! kalo udah punya kali saya udah siap2 ikutan drag bulan mei, om.... :mrgreen:
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hobi nya nge-drag ini oom rupanya....hehehehehe
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ZombiEE wrote:hobi nya nge-drag ini oom rupanya....hehehehehe
betul om... nge-drag liar, lawan angkot2 di jalan... hahaha!
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hahahahhaa....umur bole tua..nyang penting jiwa harus muda:p
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asudarsono wrote:CVT nggak kuat torsi besar jadi bagi saya agak aneh emang kalau Nissan pakai CVT apalagi XTrail.
kalo nissan x-trail yg model lama apakah matic cvt? ada yg tau?thanks
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lets wrote:
asudarsono wrote:CVT nggak kuat torsi besar jadi bagi saya agak aneh emang kalau Nissan pakai CVT apalagi XTrail.
kalo nissan x-trail yg model lama apakah matic cvt? ada yg tau?thanks
Matic x-trail lama,
masih pake ECT 4 speed (Torque Converter) :roll:
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that's rite...malah agak2 bego matic nya..hahahahah
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sebagian CVT juga udah pake torque converter, kaya di jazz 2gen versi CVT...
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^^

Torque Converternya CVT beda...

**Gue pemakai Jazz CVT...

klo pake 7 speed mode,
kopling CVT-nya lbh banyak nge-lock...

mirip ama manual...
bahkan, ndut2an klo pake gigi satu pun berasa juga...

beda waktu gue test paddle-shift AT new civic punya tmn,
lebih banyak selip koplingnya dibanding CVT jazz,
jarum RPM civic, gak linear dgn pergerakan speedometer

tapi tetap...
biar gmn, masih lebih responsif kopling kering murni...
a.k.a Manual or DSG :mrgreen:
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iya, CVT seems prefer "mulur" (merubah diameter puli2=ratio yg sesuai) daripada "main" slip kopling pd matic biasa saat ada input dari throttle. ratio nya yg instant menyesuaikan di awal perubahan throttle daripada koplingnya.

maksudnya torque converter CVT yg 2gen jazz kalo liat dari info ini:
http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/LSERIESG2/index.html

CVT yg 1gen Jazz kayanya masih pakai "start up clutch", bro...
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GTR wrote:iya, CVT seems prefer "mulur" (merubah diameter puli2=ratio yg sesuai) daripada "main" slip kopling pd matic biasa saat ada input dari throttle. ratio nya yg instant menyesuaikan di awal perubahan throttle daripada koplingnya.

maksudnya torque converter CVT yg 2gen jazz kalo liat dari info ini:
http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/LSERIESG2/index.html

CVT yg 1gen Jazz kayanya masih pakai "start up clutch", bro...
ooo gitu... ic ic ic...

yah,
yg pasti,
CVT is better than Conventional AT,
in terms of Performance & Smoothness..
especially when it used to climb :mrgreen:
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Satyabudi wrote:^^

Torque Converternya CVT beda...

**Gue pemakai Jazz CVT...

klo pake 7 speed mode,
kopling CVT-nya lbh banyak nge-lock...

mirip ama manual...
bahkan, ndut2an klo pake gigi satu pun berasa juga...

beda waktu gue test paddle-shift AT new civic punya tmn,
lebih banyak selip koplingnya dibanding CVT jazz,
jarum RPM civic, gak linear dgn pergerakan speedometer

tapi tetap...
biar gmn, masih lebih responsif kopling kering murni...
a.k.a Manual or DSG :mrgreen:
Gw setuju jg neh bro, gw rasa kopling cvt ( start clutch ) lebih minim selip dibanding torque convrt..
sebagai contoh di mbl gw :
- city CVT di set manual 7 speed, kl dikick down mirip kaya manual, kopling ga terlalu banyak slip.
- New Jazz, di set manual 5 speed kl dikickdown koplingnya selip dulu, dimana RPM naik dulu baru ngelock..

BTW, beda cara kerja torque converter n start clutch gmn ya ? ada yang bs jelasin ? maybe bro GTR bs bantu ?
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wah itu mah ane belum ngerti (& ada info) juga... mesti kursus cvt kali.... :mrgreen: :ngacir:
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start clutch itu cem gimana py bos?heheheh