Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Ingin membahas hal-hal umum mengenai mobil dan otomotif, silakan bahas disini...

Moderators: Ryan Steele, sh00t, r12qiSonH4ji, avantgardebronze, akbarfit

User avatar
POS VETT
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 2275
Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 13:53
Location: Columbus, OH, USA
Daily Vehicle: 2011 Nissan 370Z + 1994 Mitsubishi Pajero

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by POS VETT »

Oktan 93 gw hari ini kalau dirupiahkan sekitar Rp. 3.300/liter.
Tom
"PRIK NSD"
"WAHJUDI"
"POS VETT"
"YELO NEK"
"AINT YRS"
TUFF Stough
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 3464
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:44
Daily Vehicle: Ipin - Ipah

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by TUFF Stough »

Amrik bbm-nya ada yg masih impor khan? Kok bisa murah?
User avatar
POS VETT
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 2275
Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 13:53
Location: Columbus, OH, USA
Daily Vehicle: 2011 Nissan 370Z + 1994 Mitsubishi Pajero

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by POS VETT »

Bukan harga normal, setelah diskon sekitar 55-60%.
Tom
"PRIK NSD"
"WAHJUDI"
"POS VETT"
"YELO NEK"
"AINT YRS"
philosophie
New Member of Senior Mechanic
New Member of Senior Mechanic
Posts: 167
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:37

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by philosophie »

TUFF Stough wrote:Amrik bbm-nya ada yg masih impor khan? Kok bisa murah?
bukannya Amrik skrng katanya jd produsen minyak ya?
yang bkin harga minyak anjlok abis2an karna produksi minyaknya gede dari apa gitu
aga lupa :big_bored: :big_bored:
TUFF Stough
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 3464
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:44
Daily Vehicle: Ipin - Ipah

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by TUFF Stough »

philosophie wrote:
TUFF Stough wrote:Amrik bbm-nya ada yg masih impor khan? Kok bisa murah?
bukannya Amrik skrng katanya jd produsen minyak ya?
yang bkin harga minyak anjlok abis2an karna produksi minyaknya gede dari apa gitu
aga lupa :big_bored: :big_bored:
Pernah nonton liputannya di tipi lokal, kalo Amrik masih menggantungkan sebagian cadangan minyaknya pada Timur Tengah. Tayangan itu mempermasalahkan pajak impor ethanol dari Amerika Selatan yg tinggi, sedangkan pajak impor untuk minyak dari Timteng yg 0%.
philosophie
New Member of Senior Mechanic
New Member of Senior Mechanic
Posts: 167
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:37

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by philosophie »

TUFF Stough wrote:
philosophie wrote:
TUFF Stough wrote:Amrik bbm-nya ada yg masih impor khan? Kok bisa murah?
bukannya Amrik skrng katanya jd produsen minyak ya?
yang bkin harga minyak anjlok abis2an karna produksi minyaknya gede dari apa gitu
aga lupa :big_bored: :big_bored:
Pernah nonton liputannya di tipi lokal, kalo Amrik masih menggantungkan sebagian cadangan minyaknya pada Timur Tengah. Tayangan itu mempermasalahkan pajak impor ethanol dari Amerika Selatan yg tinggi, sedangkan pajak impor untuk minyak dari Timteng yg 0%.
sempet baca yang bgni si om
http://news.detik.com/read/2014/12/08/1 ... d771104159
gatau jd nya bingung.. soalnya make sense jg karna produksi banyak dan demand stagnan :big_childish: :big_childish:
User avatar
Turboman
SM Specialist
SM Specialist
Posts: 22053
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:14

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by Turboman »

Harga minyak naik tinggi / turun tajam lebih dipengaruhi faktor "Bandar di pasar Future sepertinya"........dan bisa jadi ada suatu "kepentingan politis" juga

skg kita lihat negara2 yg jadi "korban" kejatuhan harga minyak siapa aja........nah negara2 tsb bagaimana posisinya scr politik thd US

Dan silakan dilanjutkan sendiri ceritanya
:big_grin:

DISC : ON
* Bukan ajakan Beli *
philosophie
New Member of Senior Mechanic
New Member of Senior Mechanic
Posts: 167
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:37

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by philosophie »

Turboman wrote:Harga minyak naik tinggi / turun tajam lebih dipengaruhi faktor "Bandar di pasar Future sepertinya"........dan bisa jadi ada suatu "kepentingan politis" juga

skg kita lihat negara2 yg jadi "korban" kejatuhan harga minyak siapa aja........nah negara2 tsb bagaimana posisinya scr politik thd US

Dan silakan dilanjutkan sendiri ceritanya
:big_grin:

DISC : ON
yang penting kita nikmatin aja lah ya om.. mumpung lagi pada murah bensinnya.. jd bisa kasi minum yang bergizi :mky_01: :mky_01:
lemonadelovers
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 1651
Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:42

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by lemonadelovers »

Amerika nemuin teknologi baru yaitu shale oil (minyak serpih) shg cadangan minyaknya naik drastis. Tp biaya eksploitasi shale oil jauh lbh mahal klo g salah BEP d usd 50/ barel. Klo saudi cm usd 15an. Makanya saudi ga mau turunin produksi biar hrg naik. Krna sngaja d g ad penurunan produksi supaya industri shale oil amerika ga berkembang

*cmiiw ya coz hasil baca2 jg

Minyak d indo ikut MOPS+alpha+PPN 10%+pajak bbm 5% smp 10%(bali)
Big Displacement V engine enthusiast:
V8: 1UR-FSE{|}8AT
predecessor
V6: 2GR-FE{|}6AT
V6: VQ35DE{|}CVT
Eco Mode
DDiS 1.3 by Fiat Multijet
1NR-VE
K10C
User avatar
Turboman
SM Specialist
SM Specialist
Posts: 22053
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:14

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by Turboman »

Yup.......semoga ke depannya harga BBM kalo naik ya naik wajar & bukan naik krn digoreng para bandar uang
* Bukan ajakan Beli *
User avatar
Turboman
SM Specialist
SM Specialist
Posts: 22053
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:14

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by Turboman »

lemonadelovers wrote:Amerika nemuin teknologi baru yaitu shale oil (minyak serpih) shg cadangan minyaknya naik drastis. Tp biaya eksploitasi shale oil jauh lbh mahal klo g salah BEP d usd 50/ barel. Klo saudi cm usd 15an. Makanya saudi ga mau turunin produksi biar hrg naik. Krna sngaja d g ad penurunan produksi supaya industri shale oil amerika ga berkembang

*cmiiw ya coz hasil baca2 jg

Minyak d indo ikut MOPS+alpha+PPN 10%+pajak bbm 5% smp 10%(bali)
Dengan harga crude spt ini otomatis project2 baru "non conventional" oil jadi gak berkembang

Sumber non conventional oil :
- Shale Oil
- Oil Sands (ini rajanya si Kanada - Alberta (SynCrude) / Albion region - Shell)
- Gas to Liquid project (Fischer Tropsch) kayak Shell - Pearl - Qatar
- Coal to Liquid (fischer Tropsch) - Inner Mongolia - China by SenHua atau South Africa by Sasol

Kalo yg udah jalan ya wes diterusin aja dgn efisiensi gila2-an

CMIIW
* Bukan ajakan Beli *
philosophie
New Member of Senior Mechanic
New Member of Senior Mechanic
Posts: 167
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:37

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by philosophie »

lemonadelovers wrote:Amerika nemuin teknologi baru yaitu shale oil (minyak serpih) shg cadangan minyaknya naik drastis. Tp biaya eksploitasi shale oil jauh lbh mahal klo g salah BEP d usd 50/ barel. Klo saudi cm usd 15an. Makanya saudi ga mau turunin produksi biar hrg naik. Krna sngaja d g ad penurunan produksi supaya industri shale oil amerika ga berkembang

*cmiiw ya coz hasil baca2 jg

Minyak d indo ikut MOPS+alpha+PPN 10%+pajak bbm 5% smp 10%(bali)
bukannya klo dia nambah produksi dengan demand stagnan malah akan membuat harga turun ya?
tapi skrng kan posisi minyak uda di bawah 50 per barel.. berarti amrik ngerugi donk biar negara produsen kesiksa gitu :big_childish: :big_childish:
liep
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 1670
Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:01

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by liep »

mau nanya, slain angka oktan yg berbeda, apakah kandungan lain yg terdapat pd pertamax dan pertamax plus utk tiap liternya apakah sama?
efek pelumasan+pembersihannya apakah sama persis ato ad perbedaan?
biasanya saya isi premium+aditif, stlh bbm turun saya isi full pertamax, kepikiran utk merawat mesin spy lebih bersih, apakah sbaiknya saya isi pertamax plus di beberapa minggu ini utk hasil pembersihan mesin yg lebih baik lalu kembali ke pertamax? atau cukup dg pertamax saja selamanya?
sulit cari redline di malang, blm sempat ke acehardware jg, di hypermart kmrn adanya prestone, apakah beda jauh dg redline?
User avatar
jar-jit-no
New Member of Mechanic Engineer
New Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 742
Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:58
Location: Malang city

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by jar-jit-no »

liep wrote:mau nanya, slain angka oktan yg berbeda, apakah kandungan lain yg terdapat pd pertamax dan pertamax plus utk tiap liternya apakah sama?
efek pelumasan+pembersihannya apakah sama persis ato ad perbedaan?
biasanya saya isi premium+aditif, stlh bbm turun saya isi full pertamax, kepikiran utk merawat mesin spy lebih bersih, apakah sbaiknya saya isi pertamax plus di beberapa minggu ini utk hasil pembersihan mesin yg lebih baik lalu kembali ke pertamax? atau cukup dg pertamax saja selamanya?
sulit cari redline di malang, blm sempat ke acehardware jg, di hypermart kmrn adanya prestone, apakah beda jauh dg redline?
harga pertamak dan p+ di malang minggu ini jd brapa om liep? :big_think:

sejak pertamak dibawah 9000 ane udah beralih full ke pertamak..tapi tetep ngelitik :mky_05:
4A91 4at - Slow Driver
liep
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 1670
Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:01

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by liep »

jar-jit-no wrote:
liep wrote:mau nanya, slain angka oktan yg berbeda, apakah kandungan lain yg terdapat pd pertamax dan pertamax plus utk tiap liternya apakah sama?
efek pelumasan+pembersihannya apakah sama persis ato ad perbedaan?
biasanya saya isi premium+aditif, stlh bbm turun saya isi full pertamax, kepikiran utk merawat mesin spy lebih bersih, apakah sbaiknya saya isi pertamax plus di beberapa minggu ini utk hasil pembersihan mesin yg lebih baik lalu kembali ke pertamax? atau cukup dg pertamax saja selamanya?
sulit cari redline di malang, blm sempat ke acehardware jg, di hypermart kmrn adanya prestone, apakah beda jauh dg redline?
harga pertamak dan p+ di malang minggu ini jd brapa om liep? :big_think:
sejak pertamak dibawah 9000 ane udah beralih full ke pertamak..tapi tetep ngelitik :mky_05:
hehe, berhubung sejak minggu mbl ane ud full, so dr senin pas lewat pom, ane g konsen buat liat harga om, krn kmrn khan msh rumor nunggu 2hr dll, so kpikirannya hr ini ato bsk lgs isi pasti harga ud turun

kabarnya premium 6600-6700, angka tepatnya blm tau om, hehe

http://surabaya.tribunnews.com/2015/01/ ... f-mikrolet
http://sp.beritasatu.com/home/harga-bbm ... urun/75489
User avatar
amfibi
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 8594
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:45
Location: Central Park, JakBar

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by amfibi »

Senin kemaren kembali lagi ke pelukan premium... Berhubung udah 6700 :mky_01:
lemonadelovers
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 1651
Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:42

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by lemonadelovers »

philosophie wrote:
lemonadelovers wrote:Amerika nemuin teknologi baru yaitu shale oil (minyak serpih) shg cadangan minyaknya naik drastis. Tp biaya eksploitasi shale oil jauh lbh mahal klo g salah BEP d usd 50/ barel. Klo saudi cm usd 15an. Makanya saudi ga mau turunin produksi biar hrg naik. Krna sngaja d g ad penurunan produksi supaya industri shale oil amerika ga berkembang

*cmiiw ya coz hasil baca2 jg

Minyak d indo ikut MOPS+alpha+PPN 10%+pajak bbm 5% smp 10%(bali)
bukannya klo dia nambah produksi dengan demand stagnan malah akan membuat harga turun ya?
tapi skrng kan posisi minyak uda di bawah 50 per barel.. berarti amrik ngerugi donk biar negara produsen kesiksa gitu :big_childish: :big_childish:
Banyak anggota OPEC minta kpd saudi (produsen terbesar) untuk nurunin produksi spya harga naik. Tp saudi nolak supaya industri shale oil amerika ga berkembang (mau ambil tindakan klo ud usd 40/ barel)

Itu bru amerika yg punya teknologi shale oil. Gmn klo smua negara ud tau shale oil pastinya hrg minyak bakal turun lg kan..

Minyak turun. Gas jg ikut turun (shale gas jg ud ad). Batubara jg ikut turun. Khusus batubara ad faktor penurunan harga krna konsumen terbesar yaitu china permintaan batubaranya berkurang krna bendung terbesar d dunia (three gorges dam) sudah beroperasi dan memecahkan rekor produksi listrik. Klo ga salah setahun produksi listrik bendungan tsb setara dgn 49jt ton batubara stahun

Sementara musuh industri shale oil adalah isu lingkungan. Krna pembukaan rekahan d perut bumi rawan membuka tumpukan gas metana yg dpt mencemari lapisan air sumur dalam (aquifier) *ad d youtube
Big Displacement V engine enthusiast:
V8: 1UR-FSE{|}8AT
predecessor
V6: 2GR-FE{|}6AT
V6: VQ35DE{|}CVT
Eco Mode
DDiS 1.3 by Fiat Multijet
1NR-VE
K10C
User avatar
Turboman
SM Specialist
SM Specialist
Posts: 22053
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:14

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by Turboman »

lemonadelovers wrote:
Itu bru amerika yg punya teknologi shale oil. Gmn klo smua negara ud tau shale oil pastinya hrg minyak bakal turun lg kan..

Minyak turun. Gas jg ikut turun (shale gas jg ud ad). Batubara jg ikut turun. Khusus batubara ad faktor penurunan harga krna konsumen terbesar yaitu china permintaan batubaranya berkurang krna bendung terbesar d dunia (three gorges dam) sudah beroperasi dan memecahkan rekor produksi listrik. Klo ga salah setahun produksi listrik bendungan tsb setara dgn 49jt ton batubara stahun

Sementara musuh industri shale oil adalah isu lingkungan. Krna pembukaan rekahan d perut bumi rawan membuka tumpukan gas metana yg dpt mencemari lapisan air sumur dalam (aquifier) *ad d youtube
ah kata sapa cuman US yg nambang shale oil ?

Image

Humans have used oil shale as a fuel since prehistoric times, since it generally burns without any processing.[30] Britons of the Iron Age also used to polish it and form it into ornaments.[31] The first patent for extracting oil from oil shale was British Crown Patent 330 granted in 1694 to three persons named Martin Eele, Thomas Hancock and William Portlock who had "found a way to extract and make great quantities of pitch, tarr, and oyle out of a sort of stone."[32][33][34]

Modern industrial mining of oil shale began in 1837 in Autun, France, followed by exploitation in Scotland, Germany, and several other countries.[35][36]

Operations during the 19th century focused on the production of kerosene, lamp oil, and paraffin; these products helped supply the growing demand for lighting that arose during the Industrial Revolution.[37] Fuel oil, lubricating oil and grease, and ammonium sulfate were also produced.[38] The European oil-shale industry expanded immediately before World War I due to limited access to conventional petroleum resources and to the mass production of automobiles and trucks, which accompanied an increase in gasoline consumption.

Although the Estonian and Chinese oil-shale industries continued to grow after World War II, most other countries abandoned their projects due to high processing costs and the availability of cheaper petroleum.[4][36][39][40] Following the 1973 oil crisis, world production of oil shale reached a peak of 46 million tonnes in 1980 before falling to about 16 million tonnes in 2000, due to competition from cheap conventional petroleum in the 1980s.[7][24]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_shale
* Bukan ajakan Beli *
lemonadelovers
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 1651
Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:42

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by lemonadelovers »

Pengamatan hr ini

Shell turun rp 300
Super 8100
V po 9100

*liat d spbu ahmad yani bekasi
Big Displacement V engine enthusiast:
V8: 1UR-FSE{|}8AT
predecessor
V6: 2GR-FE{|}6AT
V6: VQ35DE{|}CVT
Eco Mode
DDiS 1.3 by Fiat Multijet
1NR-VE
K10C
bangrosi
Full Member of Senior Mechanic
Full Member of Senior Mechanic
Posts: 523
Joined: Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:53

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by bangrosi »

Btw oot dikit tapi msh tentang minyak.arab saudi msh jd produsen minyak terbesar di dunia gk ya?katanya kanada jg pny cadangan minyak terbesar didunia.kalo hrg minyak turun terus mobil listrik jd gk berkembang,gosipnya mobil listrik udh ada sejak jaman dulu tapi diberantas oleh para produsen minyak dunia.
walid_007
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 3196
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 0:52
Location: idn, 18 mdpl
Daily Vehicle: b48 1gd 4a9

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by walid_007 »

Wkwkwkwk....

Yg paling untung ya arab saudi dan kroni2 arabnya... udah bertahun2 sedot minyak gede2 an disaat negera lain (yg punya minyak)
engine roaring!
Salvanost
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 3178
Joined: Fri Dec 14, 2012 13:44

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by Salvanost »

lemonadelovers wrote:Pengamatan hr ini

Shell turun rp 300
Super 8100
V po 9100

*liat d spbu ahmad yani bekasi
bah!!! gua isi tadi jam 11 masih 8400 sama 9400

surammmmm :frm_bang_head:
full tank lagi!!!! :big_cry:
User avatar
POS VETT
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 2275
Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 13:53
Location: Columbus, OH, USA
Daily Vehicle: 2011 Nissan 370Z + 1994 Mitsubishi Pajero

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by POS VETT »

Cuma Rp. 300/l bedanya. Beli 100 liter bedanya cuma Rp. 300k. Kalau bedanya Rp. 3000/l baru kerasa.
Tom
"PRIK NSD"
"WAHJUDI"
"POS VETT"
"YELO NEK"
"AINT YRS"
User avatar
maskopat
Member of Mechanic Master
Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 14444
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:28
Location: in your heart

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by maskopat »

POS VETT wrote:Cuma Rp. 300/l bedanya. Beli 100 liter bedanya cuma Rp. 300k. Kalau bedanya Rp. 3000/l baru kerasa.
300 x 100 = 30k
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
Lime Green
walid_007
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 3196
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 0:52
Location: idn, 18 mdpl
Daily Vehicle: b48 1gd 4a9

Re: Premium 8500 atau Shell Super/Pertamax/Total 92

Post by walid_007 »

Burger carls jr. Juga 80 ribuan..


:ngacir:
engine roaring!