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malmsteen wrote:yg bner om???

tp gw liat sndiri punya shogun sp emg 19 ko..tar gw cek lg dh..
coz stau gw karbu shogun sp emg dipake bwt arashi..
Beneran kok. Makanya boleh dibilang Arashi tuh penyempurnaan dari Shogun (gear rasio lebih sempurna, venturi lebih besar, shock belakang lebih rebah). Hanya saja bentuknya yang aneh bin ajaib bikin orang2 pada mikir dulu sebelum beli.
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sori om...trnyata yg bner ntu shogun sp model lama yg punya kode FD emg pake karbu mikuni 19..klo shogun biasa pake 18..mungkin ngikutin mesin yg emg dibikin responsif dgn kopling manual n minus elektrik starter..
tmn2 ane bnyk yg make ko karbunya..n emg bner 19 mm..

arashi emg pnyempurnaan shogun..cuman bodinya aja yg gokil..makanya ga laku..
:big_weee:
mmmmmm..klo ga slh arashi shock blkgnya rbah coz dudukan shock yg di armnya dimundurin yah??
n pnempurnaan gear rasio yg lbh rapet emg bkin responsif tenaga bwhnya..
tp klo diatas 400 m shogun sp (model lama )yg mng..pdhl sm2 tipe kopling manual..
intinya gw rasa makin kmari suzuki malah makin pelan yak??dari gen shogun kebo ampe yg FI skrg..satria F yg skrg aja beda power 2dk sm yg gen 1..gara2 dpasangin elektrik starter..

@bli nyoman
santai aja broo..msh banyak hal yg bs ente lakuin dgn shogun biar tmbh kenceng..
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^
nah baru di bawa ke tempat service, di tanyain masa belum pernah mas? nanti coba saya setel klep dan karbunya.. bwaha ha3x.. ternyata tarikannya bukan main.. melesat kencang..
cuma ya gitu, entar tetep di limit ama tps, td di coba di jalan panjang ternyata masuk juga 110..

btw ttg new smash mekaniknya juga bilang klo new smash itu bwt tarikan belum ada lawannya...
tarikannya enteng..
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malmsteen wrote:sori om...trnyata yg bner ntu shogun sp model lama yg punya kode FD emg pake karbu mikuni 19..klo shogun biasa pake 18..mungkin ngikutin mesin yg emg dibikin responsif dgn kopling manual n minus elektrik starter..
tmn2 ane bnyk yg make ko karbunya..n emg bner 19 mm..

arashi emg pnyempurnaan shogun..cuman bodinya aja yg gokil..makanya ga laku..
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mmmmmm..klo ga slh arashi shock blkgnya rbah coz dudukan shock yg di armnya dimundurin yah??
n pnempurnaan gear rasio yg lbh rapet emg bkin responsif tenaga bwhnya..
tp klo diatas 400 m shogun sp (model lama )yg mng..pdhl sm2 tipe kopling manual..
Masa sich? :ungg: Padahal spek di suzuki.co.id sendiri mencantumkan VM18 (sekarang dah discontinue, jadi gak ada lagi speknya).

@NYoman: tuh khan, masih bisa dibikin kencang lagi tanpa ubah apa2 selain setel sana-sini. Tapi cek lagi warna businya setelah digeber. Kalo dah warna merah/coklat bata, berarti AFR-nya dah OK tuh.
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^
klo merah bata iya bro, ud...
btw pertama tadi per ny yang buat aktifin tpsnya di lepas.. dan lari motornya menggila.. mak wes.. jadi takut bawanya.. akhirnya dipasang lagi pernya....
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Wiih, baru tahu FL bisa gahar hanya dengan lepas per TPS. Segila apa tuh?

Per TPS bisa disetel?
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gila bro..biasanya gir 4 ud ga ada tarikan.. ini masih narik..
biasanya klo burn out motor kudu ngeden, ini ga, malah ampe keluar asep segala malu diliatin orang2 yang lagi service..ama tarikan awalnya nyentak.. takut bawanya...

di setel? kyknya ga bisa bro.. itu pernya gw liatin ud jadi satu ama tangkainya... mungkin bisa di akalin..
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adooohhhhhh....
masih lama ni kynya ganti2nya nabung dlu bentar...
dah gitu bru pasang kopling...
dah gitu baru ganti knalpot lagi...
dah gitu nyoba bengkokin setang...
duitttt2... susa ni...
btw, shogun gw kenapa ya tarikannya kenceng, pindah gigi 1 ke gigi 2 loncat dikit.. tapi top speednya aneh nih??
jadi 100an mendet...
??? :shrug:
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:e-clap: :e-clap: :e-clap:
slamat2 bwt bro nyoman yg shogun udah normal lg n mungkin mlh jd tambah galak..
bkl enteng dh klo ktmu suprax125..
btw..bs klie tes sm shogun ane..hehe..kidding..

trnyata teknologi pula yg bkin shogun FL pelan..buktinya cuman stel klep,setting karbu, sm lpas tps aj dh gahar..btw klep distel brp mm bos??jgn trlalu renggang,tar jd boros..

@TUFF stough
mungkin suzuki males ngasih liatr spek yg beda di websitenya..jd disatuin d tu shogun dgn 1 spek..cuma spek luar aja yg dikasi liat beda..klo di brosur aj shogun sp lama emg pake karbu mikuni vm19..

@holykrabby
aduh2..ko bro nyoman sukses sm shogunnya,gliran ente yg bermasalah..coba lakuin yg ky bro nyoman lakuin..service ringan aj dlu..disini dituntut kerajinan rider untuk merawat mtr dgn tratur..service rutin ntu slh 1 jaminan performa stabil..
klo emg blom dket sm bengkel liar yg lbh brani modif msin..mnding rajin ke bengkel resminya..coz tebakan ane bro nyoman sm bro holykrabby jrg k'bengkel y??
btw kgn ni gw sm lw..hehe
kmane aj bro???
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duh... taw aja.. wkekeke...
iya deh.. tar.. sekalian ganti2...wkekeke..
ga kemana2 ko.. duh.. seneng da yg kangen ma gw... wakwakwakwak...
btw, gw mau ganti nob i yang titanium series..
nah pj kan 17.5? mj nya gmn?
katanya nob i harus ganti2 pj mj.. hoho..
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klo bwt sy..
menilai performa speed/power Shogun 125 sesama 'saudara kandung'..maksudnya sesama Suzuki..kyanya krg sreg aja.

klo sy bandingin Shogun 125R ama merk lain..Shogun tarikan awal2nya emang msh menang deh drpd Karisma atw Supra 125 tp klo udh jarak >200m kyanya Shogun udah mulai ditinggal sma bebek 125 jagoan AHM itu.

ga tau deh nih..gmna dgn yg New Shogun..masa ya mesin baru kalah ama Karisma?
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@ bro nyoman
jadi pingin punya fl 125 sp juga neh :big_peace:

@bro hollykrabby
coba di seting ulang bro, kalo perlu bongkar blok depan, mungkin dah banyak karbon depositnya, tapi kalo dah kelamaan ga ganti oli juga mungkin loh.. motor gw dari 1 ke 2 juga bisa lompat, masuk gigi 3 aja masih nyentak, masih standar loh :e-whistle: cuma ganti per kopling aja..

@bro anak_singkong
namanya juga motor sendiri bro, pasti dibanggain dong :mrgreen: btw karisma emang kenceng, bokap pernah pake, kalo dijalan pas gw lagi ngebut :mrgreen: yang paling suka nempelin motor gw emang karisma sama mio, salut buat tuh motor :off_good_job: karisma nafasnya lebih panjang kayaknya, tapi tetep sih ga ngelewatin motor gw :e-snooty: :mrgreen:

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holykrabby wrote:duh... taw aja.. wkekeke...
iya deh.. tar.. sekalian ganti2...wkekeke..
ga kemana2 ko.. duh.. seneng da yg kangen ma gw... wakwakwakwak...
btw, gw mau ganti nob i yang titanium series..
nah pj kan 17.5? mj nya gmn?
katanya nob i harus ganti2 pj mj.. hoho..
Barusan nemu artikel yang mengatakan gak perlu ganti spuyer kalo motor belum di-bore-up: Salah Kaprah Ganti Spuyer Motor
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malmsteen wrote::e-clap: :e-clap: :e-clap:
slamat2 bwt bro nyoman yg shogun udah normal lg n mungkin mlh jd tambah galak..
bkl enteng dh klo ktmu suprax125..
btw..bs klie tes sm shogun ane..hehe..kidding..

trnyata teknologi pula yg bkin shogun FL pelan..buktinya cuman stel klep,setting karbu, sm lpas tps aj dh gahar..btw klep distel brp mm bos??jgn trlalu renggang,tar jd boros..
nah ini dia yang saya kurang tahu..
saya cuma bilang ga bisa di buat ngebut..
mekanik sebelahnya ngomong masa ga bisa mas.. nanti coba saya setting..
ternyata mekanik tadi nyuruh temennya yang ternyata eh temen lama ane...
masalahnya, si mekanik bisa dibilang(maaf)bisu dan tuli..
jadi klo mau komunikasi masalah ukuran kerenggangan klep..
tapi setingannya memang dari dulu ga ada duanya bro..
dulu mulai crystal-FU150-FL125 ane ga pernah ga ada yang ga kenceng klo diseting ama dia..
hebat.. :e-clap:
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NYoman wrote: tapi setingannya memang dari dulu ga ada duanya bro..
dulu mulai crystal-FU150-FL125 ane ga pernah ga ada yang ga kenceng klo diseting ama dia..
hebat.. :e-clap:
wah.. boleh juga tuh.. kasih tau alamat bengkelnya dong bro kalo boleh :e-pray:
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klo alamat nya kurang tahu..
tapi namanya klo ga salah suzuki barata jaya...
nama mekaniknya saya agak2 lupa..
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gokil..tu mekanik punya kekurangan aja jago..apalagi klo dy bs komunikasi sm customernya..bs2 jd mekanik balap tuh..
salut gw sm org2 ky gt..

@anak singkong..
napas kharisma emg panjang bos..tp coba d klo jarak >500 m..pst shogun bs ngejar..
trus pastiin jg klo shogun yg ente lwn dlm keadaan fit..bkn ky shogunnya bro holykrabby..hehe(piss bro)..gw bandingin shogun emg sm sodaranya jg c..tp kan sodaranya ntu underbone tergalak di Indonesia..satria F..trus klo mw dibandingin sm mtor merk laen yg idem 125 jg monggo..n ane akuin shogun FL emg kalah klo diadu sm supra 125..tp klo shogun FD (apalagi yg SP),ane yakin supra sm kharisma doang mah lwt..
n krn ntu ni forum berjalan bwt ngsh solusi gmn cara bkin kenceng shogun FL..tp ttp standar lhooo..
mo diliat dii balapan jg,kynya shogun road race msi mng jauh d sm kharisma or supra road race..look at AHRS ato HRP..no offence bro :big_peace:
cuman ngsh compare yg ente pgn baik di kondisi standar or racing..

@holykrabby
knp hrs nobi cul..pake ahrs aja dah..yg f3 series bgs tu..nobi mah knalpot variasi..ga bnyk ngaruh..tarikan doang enak,tp atas chemen..ato pk bontot..psennya di pondok ungu..ky yg ane pake..ente domisili mane??
truss,,bro tuffstough bner..liat di motor plus y bro.. :2gunfire: :2gunfire:
tp klo bwt shogun 125 yg dr sononya dikasi pj imut 12.5,tenaga motor mlh jd krg om..
dah lama bgt tu koran motor plus jg prnh ngulas spy pj shogy dganti sm 17.5.. :drinking:
mj mah ga perlu diganti..cukup pj ajah..
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gokil..tu mekanik punya kekurangan aja jago..apalagi klo dy bs komunikasi sm customernya..bs2 jd mekanik balap tuh..
salut gw sm org2 ky gt..

@anak singkong..
napas kharisma emg panjang bos..tp coba d klo jarak >500 m..pst shogun bs ngejar..
trus pastiin jg klo shogun yg ente lwn dlm keadaan fit..bkn ky shogunnya bro holykrabby..hehe(piss bro)..gw bandingin shogun emg sm sodaranya jg c..tp kan sodaranya ntu underbone tergalak di Indonesia..satria F..trus klo mw dibandingin sm mtor merk laen yg idem 125 jg monggo..n ane akuin shogun FL emg kalah klo diadu sm supra 125..tp klo shogun FD (apalagi yg SP),ane yakin supra sm kharisma doang mah lwt..
n krn ntu ni forum berjalan bwt ngsh solusi gmn cara bkin kenceng shogun FL..tp ttp standar lhooo..
mo diliat dii balapan jg,kynya shogun road race msi mng jauh d sm kharisma or supra road race..look at AHRS ato HRP..no offence bro :big_peace:
cuman ngsh compare yg ente pgn baik di kondisi standar or racing..

@holykrabby
knp hrs nobi cul..pake ahrs aja dah..yg f3 series bgs tu..nobi mah knalpot variasi..ga bnyk ngaruh..tarikan doang enak,tp atas chemen..ato pk bontot..psennya di pondok ungu..ky yg ane pake..ente domisili mane??
truss,,bro tuffstough bner..liat di motor plus y bro.. :2gunfire: :2gunfire:
tp klo bwt shogun 125 yg dr sononya dikasi pj imut 12.5,tenaga motor mlh jd krg om..
dah lama bgt tu koran motor plus jg prnh ngulas spy pj shogy dganti sm 17.5.. :drinking:
mj mah ga perlu diganti..cukup pj ajah..
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Kalo gak salah, mekanik yang tuna rungu tsb pernah diwawancara oleh M+, tapi edisi jadul banget (jamannya gw masih kuliah).
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nih... kmr gw uda coba nih.. ganti2..
koil n piston... terus katanya mau dibubut ga? diapain sih?
nanti siang diambil nih.. wkekeke...
bro malm, kmr gw blg mu ganti pj.. katanya gini.. mesinnya dah dikorek belum??
kata gw belum, kalo belum ya pake yang standar katanya pj nya...
gmn nih?? hehe..
ouw, gw skg jg ahrs tp gataw tipe apa nih.. tp bekas... jelek... heuehueue...
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OOOO...
gw inget..
dulu jg prnah baca artikelnya..tar dh gw ngubek2 stok m+ di gudang..jd pnasaran bro..coz ane jg pgn ngerasain tgn tu mekanik..

bro holy,,lw pake piston paan??ko pake bubut sgala??ngorter mksdnya??klo pake piston smash 0 c plg2 cm bkin coakan di kepala pistonnya doang spy ga nabrak busi..n klo emg mekaniknya ngmg g'prlu gnt pj youwiess..ikutin ajah..knalpot ahrs bgs ko..ga pntg tampangnya..yg penting tarikannya..knalpot bontot gw aja butek..hehe..tar gw chroome ah..
klo abang gw pake shogun jg,knalpotnya ahrs factory 2..manteb tarikannya..pdhl standar..

skrg pst dh diambl y mtrnya..cie..cie..
gw jg nii..bntar lg pake piston thunder..doain yaah..
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hmm?? maksudnya piston tuh seher kan?? ato salah??
wahh udah ganti nih..
iya,katanya korter.. itu diapain sih??
iya udah diambil nih... asik banget nariknya... hahaha...
tar paling ke bengkel lagi service, skalian cari settinggan muanya...
hihi.. waduhh.. keren uy.. mahal ya?
hmm.. malm, gw domisili di bandoenk... :big_peace:
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hohoho... kemana nih malm? hehe... :big_peace:
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sori2..gw dh mulai kuliah lg ni..jd drkmrn gbs OL..
yoi...piston tu seher..

brarti yg lw pake ntu seher smash oversize dong??pake korter sgala..

ehhh..lupa,,biz ngorter jgn lgs maen tarik aj tu mtor!!msi inreyen..
tp kynya tlat gt d gw ngsi twnya..lw pst dh gas pol..hwuehue
ente di bandung?ane djkt bos..btw dbndg bknnya gblh pake knalpot racing y??

@all senior
mo nanya ni..klo shogun pake seher thunder crankcasenya kudu dibubut jg ga??
ane dh bli blok seher sm liner & piston set thunder..tgl ngerjain doang..tp klo kudu babat crankcase ane pkir2 lg ni..
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wele... skg motor ane jadi aneh... wahahaha... mesin nyala,ga digas,tapi gasnya gede banget, asa ngederedet,gmn ya.. asa cepet gitu bunyinya... brembrembrembrembrembrembrembrem...
skg jadi gmn dong? dikecilin lagi gasnya? hmm....

ah.. bole2 ajalah... asal ga kena razia... hahaha... =)