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malmsteen wrote: @anak singkong..
napas kharisma emg panjang bos..tp coba d klo jarak >500 m..pst shogun bs ngejar..
trus pastiin jg klo shogun yg ente lwn dlm keadaan fit..bkn ky shogunnya bro holykrabby..hehe(piss bro)..gw bandingin shogun emg sm sodaranya jg c..tp kan sodaranya ntu underbone tergalak di Indonesia..satria F..trus klo mw dibandingin sm mtor merk laen yg idem 125 jg monggo..n ane akuin shogun FL emg kalah klo diadu sm supra 125..tp klo shogun FD (apalagi yg SP),ane yakin supra sm kharisma doang mah lwt..
n krn ntu ni forum berjalan bwt ngsh solusi gmn cara bkin kenceng shogun FL..tp ttp standar lhooo..
mo diliat dii balapan jg,kynya shogun road race msi mng jauh d sm kharisma or supra road race..look at AHRS ato HRP..no offence bro :big_peace:
cuman ngsh compare yg ente pgn baik di kondisi standar or racing..
Hidup Shogun..hidup FD-125!!

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wah... jahat nih malmsteen... shogun ku dihina... hahahaha...
iya sih.. lagi ga bener nih... lusa kynya ke bengkel, tenang dong...
tunggu hari H nya... :big_peace:
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Shogun gw yg FD110 96 bln 1 (tromol) masih belum kekjar ma kharisma-x. Padahal mesin masih perawan, knalpot std, bensin premium, ganti kopling baru setahun lalu. Tarikannya kaya 2 tak ga ada putusnya. Cuman bodynya aja yg dah pada pecah n cat kusam. Olinya aja pake yg motul 3100. Skrg dah 3 bln gw pensiunin trus gw pake new supra fit karena as lengan ayun blk yg di chasis dah oblak. Susah benerinnya. Gw pake supra fit karena sering lewat jalan macet n seneng denger suara knalpot supra fit new yg kaya peluit.
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Gue punya New Shogun NR, tarikannya kurang greget, kondisi masih standar. dimana ya bengkel resmi yg bisa setel supaya enak tarikannya (gak perlu ganti2, maunya kondisi standar ajah..)?
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Dogies wrote:Gue punya New Shogun NR, tarikannya kurang greget, kondisi masih standar. dimana ya bengkel resmi yg bisa setel supaya enak tarikannya (gak perlu ganti2, maunya kondisi standar ajah..)?
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main ke daerah bates ciledug bro, disitu ada bengkel Cahaya Logam punya ko an (Andi Mulki) doi 16 tahun jadi mekaniknya suzuki (cmiiw lupa dikit lamanya)... kalo sabtu minggu yang nyervis kebanyakan variannya shogie... gw suka nyetel disitu juga kalo nih shogie dah rada berat larinya :e-whistle:
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sandosicora wrote:
Dogies wrote:Gue punya New Shogun NR, tarikannya kurang greget, kondisi masih standar. dimana ya bengkel resmi yg bisa setel supaya enak tarikannya (gak perlu ganti2, maunya kondisi standar ajah..)?
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main ke daerah bates ciledug bro, disitu ada bengkel Cahaya Logam punya ko an (Andi Mulki) doi 16 tahun jadi mekaniknya suzuki (cmiiw lupa dikit lamanya)... kalo sabtu minggu yang nyervis kebanyakan variannya shogie... gw suka nyetel disitu juga kalo nih shogie dah rada berat larinya :e-whistle:
yang di hos cokroaminoto ya... ntar coba ke sana.

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sekali servis ringan/tune-up ongkosnya brp?
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iya di hos cokroaminoto, setel klep ma bongkar karbu dan filter kayaknya sekitar 30 ribuan, dah sama ongkos ganti oli tuh.. soalnya terakhir nyervis total biaya treatment 68rb inc oli repsol 15w-50 ma busi ngk platinum.. coba dulu aja bro, sapa tau cocok.. :frm_tumbright: abis kalo di tempat nyervis yang ada tambel bannya gw ga yakin... :e-snooty: :mrgreen:
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klo bandingin Shogun yg baru ama yg lama maksudnya yg 125 kayanya yg versi lama bodynya lbh panjang ya? trus mesinnya utk putaran bawah enakan yg baru tp putaran atasnya rada berat.. barusan sy jajalin punya temen yg NR. soal keiritan bbm jg enakan Shogun baru. banyak yg bilang yg baru lbh irit drpd yg lama. apa krn TPS itu kli ya?

trus ktanya Shogun 125 yg baru ada semacam pompa akselerator ya? klo iya berarti akselerasinya maut dong tuh.
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^
kyknya ndak tuh bro..
pump acsseleratornya kan ada di pelintiran gas setelah gas nya lebih dari setengah.. katanya bukannya malah kenceng motor kayaknya jadi dipaksa..ada suara aneh gitu jadinya.. ane pernah nyoba sendiri malah mesinnya mati.. :off_bored:
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bukannya pompa akselerator itu gunanya cuma pas buka gas mendadak aja..?
maksudnya biar suplai bensin ke ruang bakar ga telat.

saya rasa pompa akselerator ini ga banyak membantu klo diputaran tinggi.

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emg bro.. kyknya teknologi yang ga begitu bermanfaat..
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sory..sbelum nya salam kenal dr gw utk bro2 smua..

mau share nih..ko ky nya pd ngeluh yah sm performa FL125??

gw sih dah lakuin beberapa rubahan di mtr gw..FL125RCMD / shogun 125SP

ini hasil tes nya :

spec skr mtr gw...PJ 17,5 MJ 100, busi NGK platinum C7HVX,knalpot AHRS F3 black edition limited,

udah di porting polish,oli motul 5100 10w40 ester,bensin pertamaxplus,koil+CDI standard n berat badan gw 85kg..

final result mtr gw wkt tes di pasupati night race bandung,kbetulan gw gawe di bandung skr.. :

gear 1 : 0 - 45 kph
gear 2 : 45 - 80 kph
gear 3 : 80 - 110 kph
gear 4 : 110 - 130 an kph >>>trek abs..kurang panjang..hehehe

so..ky nya ga gt jelek deh performa FL125..tinggal gmn kita seting nya aja sih..tul gak??

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masa ya top speed bs masuk 130?? bukannya ada CDI limiternya? :ungg:

klo di JKT susah dpt top speed..sabtu/minggu aja kadang2 jalanan macet :)
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mungkin bs lebih malah bro..

soal nya mulai dr gear 1-4 itu ga pernah mentok..or gas pol sampe ke limit sm cdi nya

dr gear 1-3 nya sbetul nya juga napas nya masi bs naek...so di gear 4 nya bs lebih dr itu mesti nya..

maklum mtr gw ini gw mau terus inovasi di mesin..cuz gw mau nyangkal tentang anggepan bahwa

shogun FL125 itu kalah sm produknya si sayap mengepak...s*p*a X125 hhehehe..


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hmm...
klo boleh saya bilang standarnya FL125 masih tetep kalah ama nf125..
jangan kan NF125.. sama jupiter z aja bisa ketinggalan...
saya dari pertama beli motor ini masih mempertanyakan satu hal dari suzuki..
"PERFORMA PRIMA" jgn kan ngelawan produk lain.. ngelawan FD125 aja FL125 belum tentu mampu..
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Davy wrote:sory..sbelum nya salam kenal dr gw utk bro2 smua..

mau share nih..ko ky nya pd ngeluh yah sm performa FL125??

gw sih dah lakuin beberapa rubahan di mtr gw..FL125RCMD / shogun 125SP

ini hasil tes nya :

spec skr mtr gw...PJ 17,5 MJ 100, busi NGK platinum C7HVX,knalpot AHRS F3 black edition limited,

udah di porting polish,oli motul 5100 10w40 ester,bensin pertamaxplus,koil+CDI standard n berat badan gw 85kg..

final result mtr gw wkt tes di pasupati night race bandung,kbetulan gw gawe di bandung skr.. :

gear 1 : 0 - 45 kph
gear 2 : 45 - 80 kph
gear 3 : 80 - 110 kph
gear 4 : 110 - 130 an kph >>>trek abs..kurang panjang..hehehe

so..ky nya ga gt jelek deh performa FL125..tinggal gmn kita seting nya aja sih..tul gak??

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lho ini kan ga standar bro.. port and polish kan sudah merubah struktur mesin dari keadaan semula..
yang coba kita usut disini standart alias stock..
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nah..klw masalah standard..optimalin dl dasar2 nya..

oli itu paling dasar bgt klw mnurut gw...harga ga pernah bohong..n rasain mana yg paling enak di mtr u smua...

nah klw FL125 kalah dr mtr2 laen yg sekelas..bahkan sm kk kandung nya..

balik lg..liat karakter mesin..tipe FL itu longstroke..alias langkah piston lebih besar dr diameter piston

nah utk karakter mesin seperti ini klw standard,emg cm optimal di tarikan bawah.. lagian,PJ sm MJ nya FL khan kecil 12,5 sm 97,5..ya cocok nya buat tarikan bawah..ya mungkin 0-60kph aja ok nya

nah coba deh di adu utk 0-60kph...dg setingan optimal dan oli yg cocok..pasti deh ngasepin mtr2 laen yg sekelas..

gw bs jamin itu..bahkan kakak kandung nya juga ngakuin itu...nah klw mau dapet atas dan bawah,

ya jelas harus adain perubahan..n klw masalah TPS..mnurut gw ga ada masalah sm itu..pelajari karakter bukaan grip gas FL..klw dah nemu..TPS bukan penghambat ko..mtr bs kenceng tp tetep irit malahan..pilih mana??

ya klw gw ada salah mohon pengertian..gw cm liat dr yg gw lakuin thdp mtr gw..hehe

piss all...UP..UP..biar ga sepi..


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kayaknya sekarang shogun topspeednya kurang bagus y? masak kalah ma shogun yang cuma 110 cc (2001), padahal mesin standar, mungkin karena pembatasan emisi, jadi mesin gak maksimal.
kayaknya mesti otak-atik dulu agar topspeed bisa lebih kenceng. kalo tarikan udah lumayan,
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@davy
ane ngetes gini..
oli kita samain.. castrol power 1..
bbm kita samain di perta+
full stock alias pabrikan asli..

yang aneh nih motor bisa ngelawan cs dalam keadaan diam.. tapi kalah dari FD125/NF125 dari keadaan diam maupun top speed...

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emg iya bro..
motor temen ada yang pernah di coba, port & polish (kompresi main di 1:11)
motul 10w-40..nyamain kompresi kita pake avgas..
busi NGK iridium.. tps tetap di pasang dengan cdi brt tipe dual band..
top speed mentok di 120-125..

tps dilepas, 130 malah sempet di atas 135 (motor ud terasa melayang)
mungkin mesin standart FL dikususkan untuk motor nyante ber cc 125.. :e-think:
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NYoman wrote: ane ngetes gini..
oli kita samain.. castrol power 1..
bbm kita samain di perta+
full stock alias pabrikan asli..

yang aneh nih motor bisa ngelawan cs dalam keadaan diam.. tapi kalah dari FD125/NF125 dari keadaan diam maupun top speed...

mungkin mesin standart FL dikususkan untuk motor nyante ber cc 125.. :e-think:
heheh..
emang New Shogun (FL125) tuh sebenernya kalah ama Shogun 125 versi lama (FD125)..punya sy aja yg 125R (tanpa kopling) bukannya nyombong..brp kli sy ngetes sma Shogun NR/RR gampang ngubernya..trus ninggalinnya jg gampang..sampe di lamer jg akselerasi msh entengan Shogun sy menang 1 ban gigi 3 masuk 100kpj..tp pas ninggalin NR jg ga jauh2 amat paling2 ya 1 meteran..msh rapat dibelakang.

BTW..
NF125 tuh apa sih?
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NYoman wrote:@davy
ane ngetes gini..
oli kita samain.. castrol power 1..
bbm kita samain di perta+
full stock alias pabrikan asli..

yang aneh nih motor bisa ngelawan cs dalam keadaan diam.. tapi kalah dari FD125/NF125 dari keadaan diam maupun top speed...

@cluod
emg iya bro..
motor temen ada yang pernah di coba, port & polish (kompresi main di 1:11)
motul 10w-40..nyamain kompresi kita pake avgas..
busi NGK iridium.. tps tetap di pasang dengan cdi brt tipe dual band..
top speed mentok di 120-125..

tps dilepas, 130 malah sempet di atas 135 (motor ud terasa melayang)
mungkin mesin standart FL dikususkan untuk motor nyante ber cc 125.. :e-think:

klo masalah oli, gw kan udah bilang, cocokin sm motor bro semua, harga ga boong
oli bagus yaah pastinya mahal. castrol power 1, berarti ga cocok atau kurang cocok

coba deh, u pake oli motul 5100 10w-40, rasain deh bedanya............
gw jamin lari motor u pasti lbh drpd pake oli castrol power 1, dari segi akselerasi dan topspeed
jangan lupa setingan karbu, angin sm bensinnya pas atau ga. paling gampang liat dari warna busi, klo item terlalu kaya bensin, klo putih terlalu kaya angin, yang pas itu warnanya merah bata.
klo bensin, perta + aja bagus
silahkan dicoba


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@davy
NF125-suprax 125

10w-40w nya motul skrg berapa bro.. kyknya naik nih harganya....
btw bln dpan ane mau service besar alias service setahun, enknya diapain ya..
klo sekarang ane setingan karbu ud bagus..busi juga merah bata klo di tes..oli castrol trus bensin pertamax.. dulu pernah iseng2 nyoba di pasir buat sliding2.. ternyata ga bisa sliding.. kalah ama crystal ane jadinya.. wah...


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NYoman wrote:@davy
NF125-suprax 125

10w-40w nya motul skrg berapa bro.. kyknya naik nih harganya....
btw bln dpan ane mau service besar alias service setahun, enknya diapain ya..
klo sekarang ane setingan karbu ud bagus..busi juga merah bata klo di tes..oli castrol trus bensin pertamax.. dulu pernah iseng2 nyoba di pasir buat sliding2.. ternyata ga bisa sliding.. kalah ama crystal ane jadinya.. wah...


btw dari sml toh bro.. baru liat signaturenya..
motul 10w-40 nya yg mana bro??ada yg 3100,5100,7100...klw yg 3100 10w-40 gold itu 40rb an,

klw yg 5100 10w-40 ester itu 80rb an..nah klw yg 7100 10w-40 ester..gw kurang tw bro..susah nyari nya..mungkin ga masuk indo malahan..hehe

utk service besar..blg aja ke mekanik nya..diseting max aja..biar bs ngebut..cek2 komponen2 fast moving nya..

sproket,rante keteng,per klep,klep,kabel gas,kabel kopling (tipe SP),kampas rem,perkopling,kampas kopling..

btw jgn lupa diganti oli nya bro..motul aja..mahal..tp harga ga boong ko..

klw mau lebih enak lari nya..coba ganti PJ nya 2 step..standard 12,5 jd 17,5..nah klw MJ nya terserah..

biasa nya klw gw naekin 2 step PJ..barti MJ naek 1 step..hehehe

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