LIVINA X-GEAR vs SX4

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Re: LIVINA X-GEAR vs SX4

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guys, model yang orange itu Livina nya di Taiwan, jadi selama ini sudah model mirip2 SUV/Crossover gitu. Kalo yang silver memang Livina C-Gear (salah ga ya namanya?) yg launch di Cina bulan ini.

CMIIW ya, karena waktu itu sempat nyari2 gambar mobil Livina dapetnya gambar Livina Taiwan yg orange itu. Kalo gw pribadi lebih suka yang terakhir launch di Cina. Sekarang tinggal masalah harga. Terakhir Livina XR iklan di koran harganya udah naik kalo ga salah, dulu 140.5 sekarang 143 juta CMIIW. Livina baru ini mau dihargaiin berapa ya?
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Aih2... Gak demen banget deh... Memang gambar yang silver jauh lebih keren dibanding gambar2 lainnya apalagi dari samping depan, manis. Tapi kalau udah liat bagian belakangnya kok aneh...

Gambar yang bro geli2 posting itu Livina X-Gear yang beneran, bisa di liat langsung di website Nissan Livina China http://www.nissan-livina.com.cn/sports/ . Buset deh, di Cungkuo itu internet kenceng2 banget ya, full flash, komplit dengan lagu basi banget, aneh, bahasa inggris kayaknya, tapi dengan aksen bahasa mandarin... Bingung. Warning: Koneksi Internet Anda minimal 384 Kbps. gw aja 512 Kbps batuk2...

Hohoho, menarik juga nih. Nah, ini mobil gw jamin bisa nembus longsor juga macem SX4, ground clearance-nya mantab banget tuh. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......... Jadi berpikir 16 kali buat beli SX4 gara2 X-Gear. Livina itu 1500cc@109ps Vs SX4 1500cc@100ps. Beratnya Livina dengan tambahan bodi kit paling gak lebih 1,1 Ton Vs SX4 1,2 Ton (jadi lebih irit). Tinggal kualitas Suzuki Vs Nissan, secara dua2nya produk Indomobil... Hohohoho, fenomena yang sangat menarik untuk disimak. Seandainya ada SX4 versi terondol (tanpa ABS, airbag, MID) pun, Livina X-Gear masih menang di tenaga dan lebih ringan (estimasi). Jadi secara logika, SX4 cukup berat melawan X-Gear menurut gw.
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nyam2..sang pionir crossOver pa sang pendatang baru ya yg menang??kl Suzuki dlu inget aerio pas 2003 laku nya lmyn..eh tp pas diikutin keluar Jazz tahun 2004 aerio lsg melorot ga bangkit2..skrg glran SX4 jg sedang laris and mau diserang X-GEAR..bertahan ga ya pa tumbang jg..
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yah masing2 ada plus minusnya

tapi kalo gw si prefer ke sx4
modelnya keren euy...

untuk tenaga beda 10hp tidak akan berpengaruh banyak

trus gw juga dapet kabar, ada kemungkinan suzuki indonesia bakal ngeluarin optional turbo untuk mesin swift, sx4, baleno
bakal kenceng euy.....

smoga beneran terealisasi yah hehehe

ditambah lagi ini mobil dipake buat WRC
biasanya mobil2 produk global dan tenar ga gampang kemakan jaman modelnya

Cuman untuk indennya mo brapa lama nih ya???
di bandung aja ada dealer yang ngaku punya klien 6bulan inden sx4 blon dapet barang ampe sekarang!!!
kalopun ntar bakal CKD, waiting listnya dah kelewat panjang atuh
emang pabrik mampu produksi 1 bulan brapa unit??
pengen sx4 tapi mikirin indenya jadi cape de..........
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lama amat inden SX 4 nya? kalo sx4 warna Putih (hanya yang warna putih yang sudah pasti Import CBU, lain warna bisa import bisa CKD) gw bisa sediain kurang dari 30 Hari....
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Midi_Amp wrote:Livina itu 1500cc@109ps Vs SX4 1500cc@100ps. Beratnya Livina dengan tambahan bodi kit paling gak lebih 1,1 Ton Vs SX4 1,2 Ton (jadi lebih irit). Tinggal kualitas Suzuki Vs Nissan, secara dua2nya produk Indomobil...
maksudnya dijual indomobil. bukan produk indomobil kan...:) sekalipun dua2nya dijual oleh indomobil, kualitasnya engga sama, karena memang pabriknya beda...:)
kalo saya bilang keunggulan Suzuki karena harganya cenderung lebih murah..:)
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kalo pasang turbo rugi, mutlak mesti kudu minum hi-octane fuel...
bukan cuma "sedalam" beda 10ps sih, karena M15A kalah 1 generasi.
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GTR wrote:kalo pasang turbo rugi, mutlak mesti kudu minum hi-octane fuel...
bukan cuma "sedalam" beda 10ps sih, karena M15A kalah 1 generasi.
mang m15 SUZI ma Hr15 nya Nissan beda 1 gen bos? bagusan nissan ato m15? kayanya hr 15 lebih bagus yah?

10 Ps bukanya dah lumayan jauh tuh perbedaanya?
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kan M15A dipasarkan di aerio 2002 kalo ga salah.
MR15DE harusnya tahun 2006.
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Untuk mesin, kita ga bisa bilang kalau mesin M15A dari tahun 2002, trus jadi kalah dengan livina yang MR15DE tahun 2006. Buktinya seperti Mitsubishi Evo, dari Gen.1-9, mesinnya sama terus. Terang2an udah 10 tahun lebih, mesinnya gitu2 aja n cuma di kembangin dikit2. Jadi ga bisa bilang kalo ketinggalan 1 jaman lah. M15A juga mengembangkan yang lain2 koq, dari segi piston, intake manifold, dan lain2... Pke Throttle by wire, ECU dirubah dan lain2... Nissan memang ada plus minusnya. Semua mobil juga ada plus minusnya... Tergantung kesukaan kita masing2...
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om GTR kalo pasang turbo ckpkah minum pertamax + ??
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kalo turbo standar pabrikan cukup harusnya, kan boost nya kecil s/d sedang saja.
kecuali yg modif/hi-boost kali ya seperti mendekati 1 bar atau lebih gitu.
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wuih bagus juga modlenya livina xgear ini, sx4 pasti tewas
sayang namanya ko jelek banget ya, lemah gemulai kaya artis aja ihihi..
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Bagusan SX-4 kalo menurut gue, designnya oleh design firm Itali (Pininfarina kalo gak salah), versi Fiatnya namanya Fiat Sedici. Jadi kalo mau iseng2 bisa rumah merek tuh ;)

Beda mesin 10 hp gak penting lah buat sehari hari.

Livina itu bodi MPV...mau di sangarin kaya apa juga, tetep aja MPV.
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wah iya bener juga loe bro, bagusan sx4 kalo gitu ah
gmn nih livina, cewe ko dikasih kumis :e-clap:
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Bro Fortune CMIIW design swift, SX4 dari Giugaro Italdesign bukan Pininfarina yang design ferrari, yang pininfarina design utk mobil di Indonesia kalo nggak salah hyundai Matrix.

Vote for SX4 Definetely, WRC DNA!!! :D
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Bro author tidak punya ketetapan hati neh... hehehe...
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hehe...ttp cm buat dlm kota yg alus2 jalannya bodi MPV gn..X-GEAR ini walopun mukanya kaya singa tapi buntutnya kaya buntut kucing..hehe..
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Bagusan kalo nissan masukkin Quasqai or Dualis disini... Lebih apik... On my opinion
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Nggak sekalian Murano aja?
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lonesnake wrote:Bro Fortune CMIIW design swift, SX4 dari Giugaro Italdesign bukan Pininfarina yang design ferrari, yang pininfarina design utk mobil di Indonesia kalo nggak salah hyundai Matrix.

Vote for SX4 Definetely, WRC DNA!!! :D
O iya bener...Giugiaro. Gak ganti jadi Fiat bro? Kerenan mereknya hehehe
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Pininfarina design belum tentu pasti bagus, contoh hyundai matrix ya.
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Dalam hal ini...SX4 lumayan design yg sukses. Kalo Matrix yah...buang aja :P
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Xgear sepertinya juga bukan "urat" AWD, beda dgn SX4 maupun most mobil2 jepang (global) yg memang didesign utk (ada versi) AWDnya.
Tapi mesin Xgear jauh lebih responsif dan irit.
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uuey bagusnya... X-Gear...
:e-dance:

gimana kalo X-G ini dilaunching 3 bulan lalu...
kemungkinan besar antrian indent SX-4 banyak yg pindah barisan...

kalo Agustus yach head to head la dgn CKD SX-4
:e-dance:

jadi Nissan masih perlu banyak belajar marketing ... :e-naughty:

satu hal lagi jangan cuma mikirin murmer aza... mosok XR Livina tidak ada ABS, airbag...