Honda CBR 150 R VS Yamaha V-Ixion!!!

Segala motor tipe sport (GL, CBR, Tiger, dll).

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brarti beda denganku, justru jok standarnya fu terasa nyaman dalam arti gak cepet bikin pant*t pegel dan panas. Kalo dibilang gak nyaman bener juga, karena terlalu tinggi terhadap setang. Sedangkan kalau dipapas, bisa bikin nyaman karena riding position pas, tapi pant*t jadi cepet pegel bin panas.

wah kayaknya bingung dibacanya ya, gw juga bingung nulisnya...

jadi rekomendasinya, kalau pilih kenyamanan, jangan beli motor ini. lebih tepat, ini cenderung motor hobby..
semoga selamat sampai duluan
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@tomy_j
fu pd kecepatan setinggi itu tetap stabil tanpa goncangan dari stang...
saya sudah pernah coba sampai 145km/jam pada gigi 5...
begitu masuk gigi 6 sampe 171km/jam...
masih ada yang meragukan kestabilan dan top speed fu?










nb: fu masih standar pabrik belum diapa-apain
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Wah, gak nyangka F150 bisa nyampe 171 kpj :-D<br/><br/>Sebenarnya aku sih menomorsatukan performa dan handling :-D<br/><br/>F150 kalau hujan2an bisa mogok gak?<br/><br/>Setelah liat lsg tampang V-Ixion, ternyata masih kurang sreg, masih bagusan F150 :-D<br/><br/><br/><i>.:Posted via WAP:.</i>
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^srg bgt mogok kl saat hujan...!

tp bs diakalin dikit, nambahin sealer di cop businya...
stlh itu gak pernah lg mogok kl hujan... :D
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bro....
yang ane pikirin ama Satria, masalah Overhead.....
bener gak soal gampang panasnya mesin?
dengan radiator yang (bagi gw) rada kecil gitu (bila dibanding ama Jupi MX, CBR 150 , Sonic) apa bisa nahan panasnya mesin DOHC 150cc?
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Oo, pake sealer toh.<br/>Sealer yg gmana bro?<br/><br/>Gak pernah dgr atau baca F150 rawan overheat deh.<br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><i>.:Posted via WAP:.</i>
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tomy_j wrote:Oo, pake sealer toh.<br/>Sealer yg gmana bro?<br/><br/>Gak pernah dgr atau baca F150 rawan overheat deh.<br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><i>.:Posted via WAP:.</i>
menurut pengalaman bro tomy_i gimana?
gak pernah ada gejala overheat?
gw juga tertarik ama neh motor, tapi karena berita yg gw dapet soal gampang panas itu, jadinya kepikiran aja..
logikanya bisa diterima sih.. radiator yg rada kecil itu, apa seimbang buat dinginin mesin Satria 150?
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Yang gw tau dari temen2 pengguna FU, yang panas banget itu dari leher knalpotnya.

Ahh sok tau nehh... gw.... hehehehehehehe
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@123stu
bener bro ama yg dibilang bro tomy_j...!
FU gak pernah overheat...!

itu akibat penggunaan oil cooler (bukan menggunakan radiator)...
sebenernya tujuannya sama, untuk mengurangi panas yg terdapat pd mesin motor sehingga temperatur mesin tetap ideal... :D


tp ada satu lg kelebihan di FU, mesinnya dapat dikatakan lbh cepat melepaskan panas karena bahannya menggunakan teknologi SCEM (Suzuki Composite Electrochemical Material).

SCEM fungsinya selain mempercepat melepaskan panas, jg dpt memperingan bobot motor...
mangkanya si FU bobotnya cuman 95 kg... :D:D
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tomy_j wrote:Oo, pake sealer toh.<br/>Sealer yg gmana bro?<br/><br/>Gak pernah dgr atau baca F150 rawan overheat deh.<br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><i>.:Posted via WAP:.</i>
wadoohhh...!!
sealer ndak tau bro..?

sama...................... gubrakkkk.... :D:D:mad:


becanda deng... :twisted:


ada yg sebut sealer itu sebagai silicone sealer, bentuknya mirip odol gigi ato pasta gigi tp agak gedean dikit bentuknya... :D
biasanya digunakan untuk menutup celah2 kecil yg dpt ditembus air...
selaen buat cop busi, buat knalpot jg boleh... :D
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^
Setuju neh ama bro riofhaloho...... berat FU cuma 95 kg.
Kalo masalah berat masih beratan honda sonic ketimbang FU (pernah gw coba ndiri). Uenteng poll!!!
Pokoknya ngacir bgt deh FU.........
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novasonic wrote:Yang gw tau dari temen2 pengguna FU, yang panas banget itu dari leher knalpotnya.

Ahh sok tau nehh... gw.... hehehehehehehe

sami mawon ama gw bro, sok teuu...!!
hehehhe... :D:D
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riofhaloho wrote:@123stu
bener bro ama yg dibilang bro tomy_j...!
FU gak pernah overheat...!

itu akibat penggunaan oil cooler (bukan menggunakan radiator)...
sebenernya tujuannya sama, untuk mengurangi panas yg terdapat pd mesin motor sehingga temperatur mesin tetap ideal... :D


tp ada satu lg kelebihan di FU, mesinnya dapat dikatakan lbh cepat melepaskan panas karena bahannya menggunakan teknologi SCEM (Suzuki Composite Electrochemical Material).

SCEM fungsinya selain mempercepat melepaskan panas, jg dpt memperingan bobot motor...
mangkanya si FU bobotnya cuman 95 kg... :D:D
gitu ya Bro?
wah gw baru tw neh..
emank harus dari orang2 yg pengalaman neh nanyanya. he33x..
sory ya bro.. nanya yg gak2.
karena kbr ini yg paling gw pkrn tentang neh motor.
trus, pake gak tempat water cooler kyk CBR?
nanya lagi y bro... boleh kan? :lol:
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^sama bro, gw jg baru tau... :)
di FU gak ada tempat khusus spt water cooler bro..!

oil cooler saat bekerja awalnya dengan mengalirkan oli ke oil cooler dgn tujuan dpt mendinginkan oli yg berada didalam mesin sehingga kondisi oli tetap optimal dalam mengurangi gesekan antar tiap2 bagian didalam mesin... CMIIW
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oil Cooler?
bukan Water cooler?
jadi Satria make OIL bukan Water?
ane menegaskan kata2nya biar jelas. he33x. :lol:

wah... karena OIL jadinya tahan panas gitu bro?
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^bener bro...

FU cuman make OIL COOLER bro... :D


oil cooler awalnya mendinginkan oli..
kemudian oli jg ikut membantu menurunkan suhu mesin motor bro! CMIIW

kl suhu oli bs dibuat dlm suhu optimal brarti oli tidak terlalu lama menyimpan panas mesin kan bro?

nah itu dia... hehehe... :D

beda ama radiator, air didalam radiator akan langsung mengalir disekitar mesin buat menjaga suhu mesin agar tetap optimal...
selanjutnya diharapkan dpt jg menjaga suhu oli agar tetap optimal saat melapisi mesin CMIIW :D
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Aku blom pernah jajal F150, jd gak bs komen :-D<br/><br/>Tapi aku yakin oil cooler nya dah cukup meredam panas berlebihan.<br/><br/>Sealer nya yg silikon buat lem kaca atau yg buat ngelem paking blok mesin nih? :-D<br/><br/>95 kg lumayan enteng tuh.<br/>Rasio kg/dk nya pasti lebih mantap, 5.9kg/dk.<br/><br/>Kalo rasio kg/dk CBR150 sama V-Ixion brp ya?<br/><br/> <br/><br/><br/><i>.:Posted via WAP:.</i>
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riofhaloho wrote:^bener bro...

FU cuman make OIL COOLER bro... :D


oil cooler awalnya mendinginkan oli..
kemudian oli jg ikut membantu menurunkan suhu mesin motor bro! CMIIW

kl suhu oli bs dibuat dlm suhu optimal brarti oli tidak terlalu lama menyimpan panas mesin kan bro?

nah itu dia... hehehe... :D

beda ama radiator, air didalam radiator akan langsung mengalir disekitar mesin buat menjaga suhu mesin agar tetap optimal...
selanjutnya diharapkan dpt jg menjaga suhu oli agar tetap optimal saat melapisi mesin CMIIW :D
gitu yaaa.... :e-think:
belum kebayang di otak bro...
he33x.. maap... kita bukan anak motor..
cuma demen motor.. :lol:

Oil cooler nya kudu diisi lagi gak?
ditambah kalo dah habis gitu?
ato gimana?
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123stu wrote: gitu yaaa.... :e-think:
belum kebayang di otak bro...
he33x.. maap... kita bukan anak motor..
cuma demen motor.. :lol:
Oil cooler nya kudu diisi lagi gak?
ditambah kalo dah habis gitu?
ato gimana?
sama aj bro... gw jg penggemar motor tp cuman sanggup FU doank :D:D

bro, kl oil cooler gak spt radiator lho...!
oil cooler hanya mendinginkan dan jg memanfaatkan oli yg udah ada di mesin...
oli yg ada dimesin disirkulasikan melalui mesin ke oil cooler, kemudian dari oil cooler dialirkan kembali kedalam mesin motor, demikian seterusnya...
jd gak perlu nambah oli lg.. kan cuman manfaatin oli yg ada didalam mesin...

kl radiator beda ama oil cooler bro,
radiator menggunakan air (ato yg khusus disebut water coolant)...
air yg didalam radiator secara periodik harus diganti ato ditambahkan agar tetap cukup untuk bersikulasi disekitar mesin motor...
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jadi gak harus isi ulang?
wah bisa lebih hemat dunk ya...
sekarang masalahnya tinggal pake oli yang cocok kan bro?
gitu ya... hmmm.... dah kebayang di otak...
he33x..
btw, Oli apa yg cocok?
bro sendiri pake oli apa?
rekomendasi dari suzuki nya pake apa?
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Wah nih thread jadi punya-nya Satria dehh....... hehehehehehe

Mo nanya nih bro....
Tuh kan oil cooler gunanya buat pendingin oli kan?
Trus, kapasitas olinya berapa yah? Apa lebih banyak daripada bebek sport lainnya (cth: Sonic= 0.8 liter)?
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iya neh.. OOT nya kepanjangan.. tapi penting bro.. buat gw.. he33x.. :lol:
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tomy_j wrote:Aku blom pernah jajal F150, jd gak bs komen :-D<br/><br/>Tapi aku yakin oil cooler nya dah cukup meredam panas berlebihan.<br/><br/>Sealer nya yg silikon buat lem kaca atau yg buat ngelem paking blok mesin nih? :-D<br/><br/>95 kg lumayan enteng tuh.<br/>Rasio kg/dk nya pasti lebih mantap, 5.9kg/dk.<br/><br/>Kalo rasio kg/dk CBR150 sama V-Ixion brp ya?<br/><br/> <br/><br/><br/><i>.:Posted via WAP:.</i>
gw coba bantu yah bro, kl salah tolong dikoreksi:

Vixion : 14.88 hp / 114 kg = 0.130 hp/kg @ 8,500 rpm
CBR 150 : 21 ps / 115 kg = 0,182 ps/kg
FU : 16 hp / 95 kg = 0,168 hp/kg @ 9,500 rpm

buat yg CBR 150 gw agak ragu kl satuannya make ps, mungkin bs lbh tinggi dr yg hp CMIIW
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Kalo dilihat dari data bro Riofhaloho......
FU vs Vixion..... the winner is FU yah? (power to weight ratio)
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@123stu
gak perlu di isi ulang spt radiator, tp motor kan hrs rutin ganti oli... :D

kl masalah oli biasanya cocok2an deh bro...
krn hrs nyesuaian ama suhu lingkungan jg
btw, ampe saat ini FU gw msh cocok ama MOTUL 1500 yg 15/50..
kl dr suzuki, rekomendasinya cuman make oli yg punya suzuki doank... hehehehe... :D


@novasonic
iya nih bro, jd gak etis jg kl satria doank... :D
btw, takaran oli udah cukup make yg 1 liter bro

FU vs VIXION, diatas kertas sih bs menang FU...
tp spec diatas kan.. Vixion msh di 8500 RPM bro..
ntar deh kl vixion udah bersiliweran di jalan, hrs dicoba dl head to head.. :D
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