newbie asking about build quality....Xtrail to CRV?

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ZombiEE wrote:d
back to topic..after using xtrail in a while...koq rasanya nic boil transmisi AT nya agak2 bloon n kasar gt yah dibandingin CR-V misalnya...bkn ama jazz lho..I know it's totally different:)
any opinion?coz I guess drivetrain has large portion of overall build quality in a vehicle:)
Oli A/T nya pakai apa & udah jalan berapa jauh pak ?

Oli A/T yg udah jelek juga bikin shfting jadi nendang2, bisa cek di dipstick & tetesin ke kaca, bandingken dgn oli ATF baru yg merah bening kayak sirup Marjan, kalau oli ATF anda warnanya udah merah tua agak butek kayak darah mending segera ganti pakai ATF changer.

Lainnya : boleh coba pasang GC (Ground cable) utk transmisi A/T.
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uda masang nic ground cable+voltage stabilizer pivot:)

oli a/t jg uda ganti pake system flushing..padahal baru pake setahun...gw mah rutin kalo urusan oli..hehehe:)

ari itu kalo ga salah pake dexran III nya Mobil I..:)

any comment bro?

gw rasa sic karakternya yah emg agak nendang..trus kickdown nya agak lambat?anyone shares the same experience like me?:)
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oiya...ari itu karena pake system flushing 8 liter oli yang terpake lho...bung turboman,was it adequate?:)
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Bung Zombie, kalo kick down agak lamban sih saya setuju, hehe... Kadang2 sudah dibejek pedal gasnya , ada jeda sedikit baru dia downshift... Kalau agak nendang sih tidak terlalu terasa ya saya, memang tidak halus2 bgt, tapi masih acceptable. Dulu sy pernah pakai Accord'01 Auto juga mirip2 (masih 4 speed AT juga)

Kalau dibanding CRV baru sih harusnya CRV baru memang lebih baik ya, apalagi dah 5 speed autonya :)
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sorry bung boiler...by CRV, I mean crv mk2...:)
yang 4at...terasa lbh halus and gesit perpindahan giginya..:)
kalo kickdown xtrail mang agak lelet yah..berarti bukan gue doank yang rasain..hehehe
apakah mungkin pake DBW jadi terasa lelet?
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x-trail menurut sy seh SUV tampang sangar tp dibawanya nyaman...jd kickdown sedikit gk responsif like maybe honda newcity :lol: kalo mao responsif bgt jalurnya ke BMW seri 3....mao responsif en nyaman >>> seri 5 :P tp kalo mao banding apple wth apple then CRV lebih responsif saat kickdown.

itu ground cable apa bung zombie? sy udah ada XCS Hurricane...uda termasuk belon?

oya xtrail sy kalo pada saat berhenti, gigi di posisi D, AC nyala, kok rpm nya suka drop (tp back to normal lg) ya? wkt itu kira gr2 kualitas bensin, tp uda test sm bensin shell, msh gt tuh...ini jg terjadi sebelum pakai broquet, ganti busi, etc...pernah tanya bengkel nissan wkt servis gratis, itu ktnya normal....ada same experience gk with bro2 sekalian? kalo emang normal ya gpp...
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bung spartan..jgn bandingin ama new city dunk...itu pake system CVT aa..jelas alus bgt..hehehe..practically no gear change:)

ground cable yg gue pk merk pivot nic..bundled wif the voltage stabilizer...
bung spartan pake XCS yah....itu cuma XCS nya doank ato sekalian dikombinasikan ground wirenya?biasanya sic dikombinasikan pemakaiannya...

selama ini yg gw tau sic...asal pindah ke D..mobilnya macam bergetar sekali gt..no matter how hard I pushed the brake..anyone feel the same?

oh..rpm dropping yah...selama ini ga gw perhatiin sic..I will pay attention to that..and post...

menurut gue sic..XCS, pivot etc sama aza yah..sama2 voltage stabilizer..:)
correct me if i m wrong:)
abis dulu w jg pake XCS di jazz gue..:)

busi xtrail bukannya lgsg py coil independent buat masing2 busi?:)

bung spartan ganti busi ada ganti cable+ coil nya ga?:) gimana performanya?

sorry if I ask much..huehuehue
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yeah bung...jangan kan ama girboks nya BMW yg terkenal bagus itu...ama CRV MKII aza masi lbh halus CRV drpd Xtrail menurut gue..hehehe
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ZombiEE wrote:bung spartan..jgn bandingin ama new city dunk...itu pake system CVT aa..jelas alus bgt..hehehe..practically no gear change:)

ground cable yg gue pk merk pivot nic..bundled wif the voltage stabilizer...
bung spartan pake XCS yah....itu cuma XCS nya doank ato sekalian dikombinasikan ground wirenya?biasanya sic dikombinasikan pemakaiannya...

selama ini yg gw tau sic...asal pindah ke D..mobilnya macam bergetar sekali gt..no matter how hard I pushed the brake..anyone feel the same?

oh..rpm dropping yah...selama ini ga gw perhatiin sic..I will pay attention to that..and post...

menurut gue sic..XCS, pivot etc sama aza yah..sama2 voltage stabilizer..:)
correct me if i m wrong:)
abis dulu w jg pake XCS di jazz gue..:)

busi xtrail bukannya lgsg py coil independent buat masing2 busi?:)

bung spartan ganti busi ada ganti cable+ coil nya ga?:) gimana performanya?

sorry if I ask much..huehuehue
sy bandingkan dgn new city krn pny kk sy en memang responsif bgt ky balap hehe tp suspensinya keras bgt tuh..

oh iya memang XCS sdh termasuk grounding...

sy gk tau kl xtrail coilnya masing2 ke busi...sy ganti busi aja ke iridium blm pasang cable..apalagi coil...maklum awam masalah modif mesin, sy lbh ke arah audio :P tp kl bisa bikin irit biaya gk mahal en tanpa rubah mesin or knalpot, ya boleh lah hehehe...ada saran cable apa en coil? brpan nih

sy lg ada niat mau tuning TPS en MAP sensor atas saran bung Turbo..biaya gk mahal tp ribetnya musti bolak balik ke Nissan krn Engine indikator di dashboard bakal nyala en matiin nya kudu ke nissan
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alo bung spartan..
mengenai kabel itu...yang xtrail gw ga jelas nic...tapi dulu jazz pernah tawarin merk TMworks..kalo ga salah per set nya itu 1.8jt..cable ama koil nya;)

sssiippp..gw jg ada instal2 audio d boil..just a simple system of coz..
TPS tuh apa yah?MAP?:)
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okay back to topic..
How come I always hear plastic's rattling in my vehicle when there's bump on the road?:(
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ZombiEE wrote:okay back to topic..
How come I always hear plastic's rattling in my vehicle when there's bump on the road?:(
hehehe bunyinya dari sebelah bangku penumpang ya....tau dibelakang?...biasa lah...cari sumbernya en semprot 4WD...jgn xtrail..bmw x3 aja bunyi jg kok :lol:
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huh?bukan d belakang bung..
dari arah pintu depan sebelah kanan...driver's side aa..ntah napa...bunyi mulu...akselerasi aza bunyi..it's getting annoying..:(
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hi all...new sight...hehehe...:)

the other day...w lagi doorsmeer gt...
yah gw ngintip2 aza suspension nya xtrail...keqnya suspensi boil ini d rancang lbh tough drpd CRV yah..baut2 pengikatnya rata2 gede trus arm2nya tuh lbh gede and bushingnya jg gede...
size does or doesn't matter guys?hehehe

opinion pleaseeeee....
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para sesepuh, mohon donk e-brochure all new CRV 2007, soalnya wkt donlot dari honda kok susah ya...... Kalau ada link atau filenya please bagi ya....

kalo bisa ada Xtrail juga hehehe.

btw my vote goes to All new CRV, so luxury inside, tough looks outside ..... (kayak X5 gitu lho). Kalo X trail gua suka luarnya tp dalemnya jelek.....

Tks a lot
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iya honda-indonesia.com payah, coba deh http://www.hondajava.com kalo x-trail minta brosurnya saja ke dealer terdekat, jauh lebih informatif dari versi webnya.
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yeah...hehehe....
anybody want to talk about durability of crv mkII to xtrail?
I think those two have got sufficient to prove it..hehehe:)
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Buat built quality secara keseluruhan, justru X-Trail lebih baik.

1. Mesin seri QR25DE/QR20DE terbukti bandel banget.
2. Sistem transmisi matic terkenal awet (menurut ricardo matic)
3. Kaki-kaki lebih kuat & nyaman

Kalo soal interior & eksterior, sangat bergantung ke pemakai.

Mungkin itu salah satu sebab resale value X-Trail bisa mengalahkan CRV. Soalnya built quaiity berhubungan dengan waktu pakai. Mobil yg built quality-nya bagus, tentunya akan tetap nyaman dikendarai sepanjang waktu, tanpa ada penurunan rasa nyaman, penurunan performa mesin, dll.

Dan bagi saya, X-Trail telah membuktikannya!
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Hmm, mumpung thread lama lg balik hidup sekalian tanya deh hehe ...

Di sini X-Trail users ada yang udah hrs ganti alternator belom ? X-Trail saya baru 3 tahun dah rusak nih alternatornya, kemarin baru aja diganti, muahal pula ... Kata org bengkelnya sih memang banyak yang cepet diganti alternator X-Trail, bener gak ya ?
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X-Trail 2003 saya belum pernah ganti alternator tuh, sudah 3 taon lebih. Semoga mulus-mulus saja nih.. hehehhee....

Oh ya untuk kasus alternator X-trail, saya pernah denger kalo nggak perlu ganti satu blok alternatornya, cukup yg diganti adalah bearing idle pulley-nya (kalo nggak salah inget yah...) dan komponen tersebut memang harus diganti pas servis rutin 40.000 km.

kalo memang udah rusak parah, ada pula alternator rekondisi, harganya sekitar 700rb (kira-kira) barang resmi dari Nissan dan digaransi 1 tahun. kalo beli parts baru, mahal banget saya baca di web Nissan, harga barunya sampai 2,2jt. :cry:

Saya dengar kipas depan juga ada yang bermasalah? Namun saya pun belum mengalaminya (semoga tidaaaakkkk). Dan bisa di rekondisi di ahli fan (referensinya musti ikutan milis pengguna X-Trail... saya lupa musti cari parts rekondisi kemana?)

Di milis2 XTrail ada detail ttg part-part rekondisi tersebut. Kalo di bengkel resmi belum tentu ready stok.

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sebenernya ada beberapa masalah di X-Trail 2.5 Xt 2005 saya, tapi sering terlupakan karena saking nyamannya duduk di dalam.


Beberapa masalah yaitu :
-A/C sering tiba2 ga dingin sesaat trus kembali dingin lagi
-Muffler knalpot produksi 2006 ke bawah musti liat tuh mufflernya ada keropos ato bahkan uda berlobang...
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boilers wrote:Di sini X-Trail users ada yang udah hrs ganti alternator belom ? X-Trail saya baru 3 tahun dah rusak nih alternatornya, kemarin baru aja diganti, muahal pula ... Kata org bengkelnya sih memang banyak yang cepet diganti alternator X-Trail, bener gak ya ?
Hansen wrote: Beberapa masalah yaitu :
-A/C sering tiba2 ga dingin sesaat trus kembali dingin lagi
Kemungkinan besar ada masalah dengan OEM Alternator dari Nissan. Saya juga pernah ganti alternator di Nissan Serena. Pada waktu itu sebetulnya belum parah sekali tetapi service advisornya memberi rekomendasi supaya ganti saja karena masih garansi.

Jenis A/C yang pakai "climate control" menggunakan compressor cut off apabila ada penyumbatan yang bisa menyebabkan pembekuan. Jadi periksa saluran,saringan-2. Atau kemungkinan juga extra fan nya sudah agak lemah....
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ada yang mufflernya udah pernah diganti?
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Hansen wrote:ada yang mufflernya udah pernah diganti?
di Tabloid OTOMOTIF pernah dibahas mengenai muffler X-trail keluaran tahun-2 terakhir. kalau tidak salah didalam ada tekukan yang terlalu patah sehingga menyebabkan air mengendap. dan kemudian jadi kropos.
Ganti yang double kanan kiri aja... keren banget....
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gw punya dah diganti baru gratis ama nissan...
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