Pertamax Green RON92 menggantikan Pertalite RON90 sebagai BBM bersubsidi mulai tahun 2024?

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Haiqalesha wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:31 "The Toyota 1NZ-FE engine has electronic fuel injection system, VVT-i (Variable Valve Timing with intelligence) system on the intake side, ETCS-i (Electronic Throttle Control System-intelligent) and DIS-4 ignition system with individual ignition coil for each spark plug.

The 1NZ-FE engine was redesigned in 2003 due to the introduction of Euro IV emissions regulations. The following changes were made to the engine:

Piston shape was changed;
The shape of the exhaust manifold was modified;
Construction of the three-way catalytic converter was changed;
Three-way catalytic converter was fitted;
The 16 tit ECU was changed to 32 bit.

The engine produced 110 PS (81 kW; 109 HP) at 6,000 rpm of maximum horsepower and 143 Nm (14.6 kg·m; 105.6 ft·lb) at 4,000 rpm of peak torque

SOURCE : https://www.engine-specs.net/toyota/1nz ... e_vignette"

Kalau udah Euro 4 aman yah pakai etanol etanolan ?
konon semua kendaraan di atas thn 2000 udah bisa comply ke E10.

ethanol di luar negeri jg bukan barang baru. minimal kalo mobil "standar global" harusnya aman.

nunggu preskon ATPM aja. nanti kan pasti pada rame rame preskon terkait keamanan bensin campuran E3.

kalo goalnya mau kurangi emisi ya udah bener pertalite dihapus ganti pertamax E3.
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ChZ wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:46
Haiqalesha wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:31 "The Toyota 1NZ-FE engine has electronic fuel injection system, VVT-i (Variable Valve Timing with intelligence) system on the intake side, ETCS-i (Electronic Throttle Control System-intelligent) and DIS-4 ignition system with individual ignition coil for each spark plug.

The 1NZ-FE engine was redesigned in 2003 due to the introduction of Euro IV emissions regulations. The following changes were made to the engine:

Piston shape was changed;
The shape of the exhaust manifold was modified;
Construction of the three-way catalytic converter was changed;
Three-way catalytic converter was fitted;
The 16 tit ECU was changed to 32 bit.

The engine produced 110 PS (81 kW; 109 HP) at 6,000 rpm of maximum horsepower and 143 Nm (14.6 kg·m; 105.6 ft·lb) at 4,000 rpm of peak torque

SOURCE : https://www.engine-specs.net/toyota/1nz ... e_vignette"

Kalau udah Euro 4 aman yah pakai etanol etanolan ?
konon semua kendaraan di atas thn 2000 udah bisa comply ke E10.

ethanol di luar negeri jg bukan barang baru. minimal kalo mobil "standar global" harusnya aman.

nunggu preskon ATPM aja. nanti kan pasti pada rame rame preskon terkait keamanan bensin campuran E3.

kalo goalnya mau kurangi emisi ya udah bener pertalite dihapus ganti pertamax E3.
ganti PLTU ke PLTN :big_peace:

tapi... bisa ARB itu Coal Stocks :big_biglaugh:
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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:51

ganti PLTU ke PLTN :big_peace:
lagi heboh polusi baru deh skrg gini2 diurusin. :big_bored: segala mau lompat ke mobil listrik lah.

pdhl di negara maju manapun ya emission regulation jalan dulu bensin dibagusin dulu bertahap bukan kebelet mobil listrik gegara ada yang empu bisnis di atas padahal masih didebatin beneran ngurangin polusi apa mindahin polusi.

eh tapi gak mindahin sih, orang PLTU nya di sono jg. :ngacir:
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:big_smoking: Koleksi LSIP
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aman kalau masih E7, dibukman ANR ane max E10, hehe
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tambahan ethanol katanya lebih green tapi tenaga berkurang
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blending dgn ethanol boleh lah menyesuaikan dgn trend, tapi itu tolong spesifikasinya diperbaikilah untuk semua line up bbm terutama pertamax biru yg belum euro 4 dgn sulfur 50ppm. Susah amat ya turunkan dari 500ppm ke 50ppm, puluhan tahun pejabat2 acuh banget untuk upgrade kilang.
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mau ada produk baru kaya apa kalo masi suka naik drastis diam diam dan masih suka ngusik dan ngatur harga bbm kompetitor sy masih ga respek
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kalau nggak respek ya jangan dibeli :ngacir:
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Lebih mantep lagi pindah warga negara..


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darrelund wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 15:11
kunaskun wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 14:07 kayanya cuma toyota daihatsu yang comply ke ginian, karena negara tujuan export beberapa pake ethanol. tapi ga jelas juga apa spek lokal dibedain lagi ga
biasanya seh klo ada E E an gtu ditulis um, bahkan utk sekedar E5 pun masuk stiker

ngubek" bukman onlen toyota ternyata, mayoritas spek lokal ud support E10

avanza unibody peslip terakir 2019 & rush aja ud support E10

https://www.toyota.astra.co.id/ownership

skema aplagi ini *konspirasi :big_biglaugh:
Iseng ngecek di bukman xp2017 dan suprax bapak saya ternyata ada keterangan pemberian ethanol juga
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pusing2 polusi better convert BBG utk bensin n dual fuel untuk diesel.
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Haiqalesha wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:31 "The Toyota 1NZ-FE engine has electronic fuel injection system, VVT-i (Variable Valve Timing with intelligence) system on the intake side, ETCS-i (Electronic Throttle Control System-intelligent) and DIS-4 ignition system with individual ignition coil for each spark plug.

The 1NZ-FE engine was redesigned in 2003 due to the introduction of Euro IV emissions regulations. The following changes were made to the engine:

Piston shape was changed;
The shape of the exhaust manifold was modified;
Construction of the three-way catalytic converter was changed;
Three-way catalytic converter was fitted;
The 16 tit ECU was changed to 32 bit.

The engine produced 110 PS (81 kW; 109 HP) at 6,000 rpm of maximum horsepower and 143 Nm (14.6 kg·m; 105.6 ft·lb) at 4,000 rpm of peak torque

SOURCE : https://www.engine-specs.net/toyota/1nz ... e_vignette"

Kalau udah Euro 4 aman yah pakai etanol etanolan ?
Spek indo 1nz nya gaada yang upgradean 2003. Adanya yang upgrade minor
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Chevyman wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:11 https://www.cnnindonesia.com/ekonomi/20 ... en-di-2024


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Green tapi kalau kopinya pahit....nggak jadi deh
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Ethanol bikin fuel lubricity berkurang ga sih?
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Kayanya ngga OOT, saya lihat spek pertalite dan pertamax. Pertalite ngga ada timbal sedangkan Pertamax ada timbalnya. Jadi secara pertimbalan 😁 atau emisi gas buang, apakah pertalite lebih baik dibandingkan pertamax?
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Chevyman wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:11 https://www.cnnindonesia.com/ekonomi/20 ... en-di-2024


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sebaiknya bbm kualitas baik segera saja disubsidi.
di Luar Negeri, mobil Bus asapnya bersih dan tidak bau eneg. Padahal parkir dan lalulalang di basement, dan suara mesinnya halus.
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kayanya bakalan susah, subsidi bakalan jebol
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lutfi123456 wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:40 kayanya bakalan susah, subsidi bakalan jebol
dipakai orang "mampu" :big_peace: :upss:
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ChZ wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:46 konon semua kendaraan di atas thn 2000 udah bisa comply ke E10.

ethanol di luar negeri jg bukan barang baru. minimal kalo mobil "standar global" harusnya aman.

nunggu preskon ATPM aja. nanti kan pasti pada rame rame preskon terkait keamanan bensin campuran E3.

kalo goalnya mau kurangi emisi ya udah bener pertalite dihapus ganti pertamax E3.
Ga semua Om. Contohnya, VW / Skoda ga compatible dgn E10.

Saya refer ke https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating- ... lity-check
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alexdonovan wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:37
ChZ wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:46 konon semua kendaraan di atas thn 2000 udah bisa comply ke E10.

ethanol di luar negeri jg bukan barang baru. minimal kalo mobil "standar global" harusnya aman.

nunggu preskon ATPM aja. nanti kan pasti pada rame rame preskon terkait keamanan bensin campuran E3.

kalo goalnya mau kurangi emisi ya udah bener pertalite dihapus ganti pertamax E3.
Ga semua Om. Contohnya, VW / Skoda ga compatible dgn E10.

Saya refer ke https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating- ... lity-check
kalau dari list ACEA comply kecuali model yg disebutkan dalam file.

https://www.acea.auto/files/E10_petrol_ ... update.pdf
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lutfi123456 wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:40 kayanya bakalan susah, subsidi bakalan jebol
justru apakah ini adalah strategi motong subsidi? pertalite lenyap, beli RON92 wajib QR dan diberlakukan selective QR karena sdh "green". yg eligible bisa dpt subsidi, yg ga ya normal price. who knows? :big_think:
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