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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 03]

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Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:10
sekilas liat sih ga perlu lepas tutup klep mbah. cuma fuel line sama ada bracket utk mounting nya. abis itu tinggal cabut aja, ga ngerti langsung ke atas atau hrs diputar kaya busi ya.
entah dengan GD, kalo KD musti lepas tutup klep karena pengunci injectornya pake baut 12 ngumpet didalem.
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weeeeehhh..... ayo 25 halaman lagi nih part 4....!!!
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marmut wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:01
DOHC wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:48
ajib bener 100an rebu km lebi tp masi seragam smua gt
nah, waktu senia tempo hari, KM juga udah 150rb lebih dan kondisi tappet masih bagus banget.
angka yang tertera di tappet dan hasil ukur pake micrometer sama persis. berarti tidak ada keausan.

taaapiiiii....... waktu saya ukur celah klep-nya, ngaco semua.

harusnya in-out : 20-30
kenyataan in-out : 30-40

salah pasang waktu perakitan? apa iya? entahlah......
kl kata bengkel TUSS yg terkenal itu

celah klep fabrikan emg banyak yg lari mbah, apalagi kelas mass production, malah katanya sering dia temuin kondisi tappet jg out of spec

btw, si sinia emg blom HLA mbah ??
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udah posting tools nya terus2an ON FIRE ......

3 halaman berturut2 pertamax terus pula ......

ga ada matinye mbah rektor :big_blushing:
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Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:02
DOHC wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:57
Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:55

ga ada mbahhhh suweeerrr .....

tadinya mau iseng nyabut injector tp males ah kurang kerjaan. :mky_04:

tp kl jadi mau beli rubber hose yg dr intercooler ke TB utk dimodif kasih nepel. ntar ane mau iseng2 steam cleaning jeroan pakai uap air biar tetap kinclong. steam nya dialirin pake selang air dr ketel uap yg dipanasin di kompor listrik pake teko. :mky_01:
bersihin mesin musti ikutin tjaranya mbah marmut tuh

pake oli SAE 10, atau kl susah, bisa pake oli bekas campur solar sikit... trus masukin ke botol spray gun buat semprot mesin ama kolong
mbok ya baca yg bener ..... :big_bored:

gimana mau baca dengan bener? lha wong lagi detailing 1 body sekalian balance as kopel paket komplit....
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Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:21
enakan yg rapet mbah .....

yg renggang ga kerasa ......


*ehh
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celah klep a.k.a valve clearance mbah..... celah klep.....
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 03]

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DOHC wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:26
kl kata bengkel TUSS yg terkenal itu

celah klep fabrikan emg banyak yg lari mbah, apalagi kelas mass production, malah katanya sering dia temuin kondisi tappet jg out of spec

btw, si sinia emg blom HLA mbah ??
nah ane kemaren br nyari YT gmn caranya nyetel klep di production line fabriek mbah. ga ketemu pideonya.

mungkin bgt sih out of spec secara 1 cyl head aja udah 16 yg musti dikerjain ya. ane kl jd operatornya jg udah males2an ngerjainnya kl manual ga pake automation.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 03]

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marmut wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:30
Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:21
enakan yg rapet mbah .....

yg renggang ga kerasa ......


*ehh
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celah klep a.k.a valve clearance mbah..... celah klep.....
lho yg itu kan klep juga ...... bisa buka tutup toh. :weekk:
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Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:26 udah posting tools nya terus2an ON FIRE ......

3 halaman berturut2 pertamax terus pula ......

ga ada matinye mbah rektor :big_blushing:

sisa extension jangan kelupaan lho mbah..... kami masih menanti dengan penasaran.
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marmut wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:33
Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:26 udah posting tools nya terus2an ON FIRE ......

3 halaman berturut2 pertamax terus pula ......

ga ada matinye mbah rektor :big_blushing:

sisa extension jangan kelupaan lho mbah..... kami masih menanti dengan penasaran.
katanya kl dkuarin smua extension nya.. ini tret tools bsa lgs ngebalap tret oli
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 03]

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DOHC wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:36
marmut wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:33
Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:26 udah posting tools nya terus2an ON FIRE ......

3 halaman berturut2 pertamax terus pula ......

ga ada matinye mbah rektor :big_blushing:

sisa extension jangan kelupaan lho mbah..... kami masih menanti dengan penasaran.
katanya kl dkuarin smua extension nya.. ini tret tools bsa lgs ngebalap tret oli
bisa 1 foto 1 postingan

tp kan ga keliatan panjangnya segimana kl digabungin
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 03]

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Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:31
DOHC wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:26
kl kata bengkel TUSS yg terkenal itu

celah klep fabrikan emg banyak yg lari mbah, apalagi kelas mass production, malah katanya sering dia temuin kondisi tappet jg out of spec

btw, si sinia emg blom HLA mbah ??
nah ane kemaren br nyari YT gmn caranya nyetel klep di production line fabriek mbah. ga ketemu pideonya.

mungkin bgt sih out of spec secara 1 cyl head aja udah 16 yg musti dikerjain ya. ane kl jd operatornya jg udah males2an ngerjainnya kl manual ga pake automation.
nahh nubie justru sampe skrg masi binggung mbah gmana cara stel klep utk mesin2 yg ber HLA

apa copot noken as trus gonta ganti bucket shim (ini kl yg pake model bucket) trus pasang lg noken as nya, trus ukur ampe ketemu yg pas ama stelan fabrik ?

kl enjin2 kaya L15 sehh hepi saya, gampang bener stel klep nya modal obeng minus ama konci ring pas 10 mm doank

btw lg

kl kata si tuss itu, justru enjin2 batu makam yg masi aseli buatan batu makam, blom campur tangan mitsu kerawang, itu justru stelan klep nya by default ud bagus loh, makanya ga perlu di stel2 lg
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 03]

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Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:31
nah ane kemaren br nyari YT gmn caranya nyetel klep di production line fabriek mbah. ga ketemu pideonya.

mungkin bgt sih out of spec secara 1 cyl head aja udah 16 yg musti dikerjain ya. ane kl jd operatornya jg udah males2an ngerjainnya kl manual ga pake automation.

tinggi klep dan tebal vavle seat waktu masih baru kan sudah dihitung, jadi butuh tappet dengan angka berapa untuk in dan out ya udah disiapin.
operator tinggal ambil dari mangkok trus cemplungin ke head.

ini si mbah masa ga tau kayanya ga mungkin banget dah....
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Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:37
bisa 1 foto 1 postingan

tp kan ga keliatan panjangnya segimana kl digabungin

bikin 2 versi mbah....
1 foto 1 postingan, sama 1 lagi yg disambung.
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btw ini tret kayanya ud bole ganti nama jg dehh

koleksi hand tools dan klinik otomotif (not affiliated with klinik otomotif sonora)
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marmut wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:23 weeeeehhh..... ayo 25 halaman lagi nih part 4....!!!
Nyumbang foto ganti coolant td pagi ya mbah :big_biglaugh:
Dah dua taun soalnya blm ganti :ungg:

Berhubung td pagi mau keluar kota (dibaca: lenteng agung ke depok). Jadi ganti dulu deh :big_slap:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 03]

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marmut wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:40
Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:31
nah ane kemaren br nyari YT gmn caranya nyetel klep di production line fabriek mbah. ga ketemu pideonya.

mungkin bgt sih out of spec secara 1 cyl head aja udah 16 yg musti dikerjain ya. ane kl jd operatornya jg udah males2an ngerjainnya kl manual ga pake automation.

tinggi klep dan tebal vavle seat waktu masih baru kan sudah dihitung, jadi butuh tappet dengan angka berapa untuk in dan out ya udah disiapin.
operator tinggal ambil dari mangkok trus cemplungin ke head.

ini si mbah masa ga tau kayanya ga mungkin banget dah....
ga semudah itu mbah. makanya kenapa ada banyak stok bucket tappet dgn ketebalan beda2 yg diff nya dikit2 bgt. krn dlm proses manufaktur ada namanya tolerance. jd 1 klep dgn sebelahnya aja bisa beda. trus kl pake conveyor (ban berjalan) selesai 1 cyl head trus dateng lagi dia udah keder duluan. sy yakin dia termasuk yg konsumsi kopi dan rokoknya paling tinggi wkwkwkwkwk.

ok trus kl yg setelan puter2 kesukaan mbah dohc gimana tuh? manual juga atau otomatis kaya ngencengin baut cyl head? (kl baut cyl head itu otomatis - pneumatic langsung semua baut dikencengin bareng, built in torque wrench di system pneumaticnya)
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yanuarra wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:47
Nyumbang foto ganti coolant td pagi ya mbah :big_biglaugh:
Dah dua taun soalnya blm ganti :ungg:

Berhubung td pagi mau keluar kota (dibaca: lenteng agung ke depok). Jadi ganti dulu deh :big_slap:

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ciyeeeee alat baru nih yeeee :big_biglaugh:

lenteng agung depok kl jam 5 sore bagus tuh mbah utk ngetes radiator berfungsi baik ngga. wkwkwkwk macet gila
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DOHC wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:38
nahh nubie justru sampe skrg masi binggung mbah gmana cara stel klep utk mesin2 yg ber HLA

apa copot noken as trus gonta ganti bucket shim (ini kl yg pake model bucket) trus pasang lg noken as nya, trus ukur ampe ketemu yg pas ama stelan fabrik ?

kl enjin2 kaya L15 sehh hepi saya, gampang bener stel klep nya modal obeng minus ama konci ring pas 10 mm doank

HLA ya gaada stel klep.
dan itu beneran rapet gaada celah antara ujung batang klep-tappet hidrolik-camshaft karena tekanan dari oli.

kalo yang lepas camshaft trus ganti bucket atau shim, itu yang model solid tappet.

nah, honda L15 itu sangat tepat dibilang stel klep karena ada baut yang diputer-puter/disetel.
kalo yang solid tappet kan gaada yang disetel, adanya ganti....
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Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:53
ga semudah itu mbah. makanya kenapa ada banyak stok bucket tappet dgn ketebalan beda2 yg diff nya dikit2 bgt. krn dlm proses manufaktur ada namanya tolerance. jd 1 klep dgn sebelahnya aja bisa beda. trus kl pake conveyor (ban berjalan) selesai 1 cyl head trus dateng lagi dia udah keder duluan. sy yakin dia termasuk yg konsumsi kopi dan rokoknya paling tinggi wkwkwkwkwk.

ok trus kl yg setelan puter2 kesukaan mbah dohc gimana tuh? manual juga atau otomatis kaya ngencengin baut cyl head? (kl baut cyl head itu otomatis - pneumatic langsung semua baut dikencengin bareng, built in torque wrench di system pneumaticnya)

bakal saya tendang tu conveyor kalo sampe (dan pasti) keder....

menurut hemat saya sebagai pemula, ada beberapa hal yang sebaiknya kita nikmati saja apa adanya.
karena saat saya baca-baca mengenai baut dan torsi, makin saya baca, makin isi kepala overheat dan menjelang hang. seperti mobil berjalan gigi 1 di redline secara terus menerus jakarta-surabaya. hampir korslet.....
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marmut wrote:
Omnibus wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:35

ngga sekalian buka valve cover mbah? mumpung KM belum 50rb jadi ngga perlu ganti gasket, masih bisa kepake lagi.
periksa valve clearance lah.....
ini hasil pemeriksaan 2KD kepunyaan suhu benzz89 ;


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periksa waktu kondisi menjelang dingin, sekitar 2 jam setelah mesin mati.
Wah thank you mbah... baru mau nanya nih cetak stensilnya ketinggalan kemarin. Mau ane laminating + kasih pigura lalu tempel di dinding rumah.
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yanuarra wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:47
Nyumbang foto ganti coolant td pagi ya mbah :big_biglaugh:
Dah dua taun soalnya blm ganti :ungg:

Berhubung td pagi mau keluar kota (dibaca: lenteng agung ke depok). Jadi ganti dulu deh :big_slap:

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tak bayari selawè èwu kang.....
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benzz89 wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:19 Wah thank you mbah... baru mau nanya nih cetak stensilnya ketinggalan kemarin. Mau ane laminating + kasih pigura lalu tempel di dinding rumah.

masih ada ini... mau di fax?

salah ketik ngana om.... stensil stensil.... nanti pasti ada yang nyambung stensilan karya E.A.
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marmut wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:22
benzz89 wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:19 Wah thank you mbah... baru mau nanya nih cetak stensilnya ketinggalan kemarin. Mau ane laminating + kasih pigura lalu tempel di dinding rumah.

masih ada ini... mau di fax?

salah ketik ngana om.... stensil stensil.... nanti pasti ada yang nyambung stensilan karya E.A.
Buku / majalah stensil ??


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tuh kan bener...... 1 lagi yang belum nyamber....