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Mungkin juga kalau kasus ini Ghosn sudah gak pentingin posisinya, udah tinggal pride nya dia aja, dapet keadilan hukum atau tidak.

Lagipula dakwaannya juga dangkal banget untuk konsumsi publik,
1. Penggelapan laporan pendapatan, masalah ini bukannya harusnya bagian internal pajak perusahaan yang urus ?
2. Pemakaian fasilitas perusahaan untuk kepentingan pribadi. Bukannya kalau udah level CEO/chairman hampir semua kebutuhan pribadi sudah ditanggung perusahaan, seperti mobil dinas, rumah dinas termasuk biaya utilitasnya, uang sekolah anak, rekening telpon, dll. Toh juga hidup&waktu Ghosn sudah dicurahkan ke 3 perusahaan induk aliansi, belum termasuk kalau dihitung anak perusahaan dan joint venture seperti Alpine, Dacia, AvtoVaz, Datsun, Renault-Samsung, Dongfeng ditambah Daimler AG grup sebagai mitra aliansi
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Re: Kasus Carlos Ghosn

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Carlos Goshn was removal from Nissan chairman according news few hour ago. Saikawa become interim Chairman. Apakah di bawah Saikawa performa penjualan mobil aliansi Nissan Renault Mitsubishi bisa sebaik tahun 2017 yg lalu saat Aliansi masih dipegang Goshn. Ini yg kayaknya akan berubah, my predictiion VW Will become biggest car selling untuk tahun 2018 ini diatas capaian total penjualan mobil dari aliansi Nissan Renault Mitsubishi.
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liat2aja wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:05 Kalau kejadiannya di Indonesia sudah pasti digoreng dan hubung2kan politik hehe

Iya saya curiganya di cari-cari kesalahan Ghosn agar bisa mengkudeta posisinya dari Nissan dan Mitsu, tapi kejadian sebenarmya ya tidak tahu.

Yg saya bingung, kompensasinya bagaimana ya mengingat ada minimum 2 negara, Prancis dan Jepang. Dia tidak lengkap melaporkan bonusnya di Jepang, tapi dilaporkan di Prancis? Bisa atau tidak? Ini menyangkut perpajakan kan.

Horang kaya harusnya punya pengacara yg jago juga, harusnya lolos dari hukuman, tapi posisi di perusahaan mungkin keburu hilang.
Oh kl di indo kan kl perutnya yang laper, negaranya yang dituntut untuk mengenyangkan. Makanya ga heran dari dulu jualannya kalo ga lapangan pekerjaan ya harga2 murah. Kasian.
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mike22 wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 15:26
liat2aja wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:05 Kalau kejadiannya di Indonesia sudah pasti digoreng dan hubung2kan politik hehe

Iya saya curiganya di cari-cari kesalahan Ghosn agar bisa mengkudeta posisinya dari Nissan dan Mitsu, tapi kejadian sebenarmya ya tidak tahu.

Yg saya bingung, kompensasinya bagaimana ya mengingat ada minimum 2 negara, Prancis dan Jepang. Dia tidak lengkap melaporkan bonusnya di Jepang, tapi dilaporkan di Prancis? Bisa atau tidak? Ini menyangkut perpajakan kan.

Horang kaya harusnya punya pengacara yg jago juga, harusnya lolos dari hukuman, tapi posisi di perusahaan mungkin keburu hilang.
Oh kl di indo kan kl perutnya yang laper, negaranya yang dituntut untuk mengenyangkan. Makanya ga heran dari dulu jualannya kalo ga lapangan pekerjaan ya harga2 murah. Kasian.
makanya kemiskinan selalu dipiara aparat partai. biar bisa dikeluarkan sebagai senjata saat musim kampanye.
kalo rata2 sudah makmur partai mo juwalan apa?
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liat2aja wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:05 Kalau kejadiannya di Indonesia sudah pasti digoreng dan hubung2kan politik hehe

Iya saya curiganya di cari-cari kesalahan Ghosn agar bisa mengkudeta posisinya dari Nissan dan Mitsu, tapi kejadian sebenarmya ya tidak tahu.

Yg saya bingung, kompensasinya bagaimana ya mengingat ada minimum 2 negara, Prancis dan Jepang. Dia tidak lengkap melaporkan bonusnya di Jepang, tapi dilaporkan di Prancis? Bisa atau tidak? Ini menyangkut perpajakan kan.

Horang kaya harusnya punya pengacara yg jago juga, harusnya lolos dari hukuman, tapi posisi di perusahaan mungkin keburu hilang.
Makanya kasus Ghosn ini bagi banyak orang terdengar sangat janggal... terkesan diada-adain.

ada dugaan kalau ini konspirasi dari pihak jepang untuk menjatuhkan Ghosn gara-gara ybs mau merger Nissan-Renault. Sementara Nissan wong porsi sahamnya lebih dikit daripada Renault, mereka mesti tunduk sama Renault.

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pcx wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 13:59
Begitu mudah skrg membuat seorang from hero to zero jika lengah sedikit. :shrug:
Ghosn ditangkap begitu landing di Haneda dgn jet perusahaan yg brarti dia sama sekale ga menyangka sudah diincar oleh Kejaksaan Tokyo :snipersmile:

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Renault sudah pasti ga menecat Ghosn dan menunggu statement pembelaan dari Ghosn. Ini sudah berbeda jauh dengan Nissan dan Mitsubishi dalam memandang Ghosn.
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Memang positif dikudeta dan sudah pasti Nissan yang berusaha melepad ikatan Aliansi dengan Renault. Apalagi sudah mendapatkan MMC untuk operasionalnya di ASEAN DM. Sementara Renault berharap Nissan sebagai mitra yang tidak lupa dan tahu berterima kasih.
Kalau sudah ketahuan rencana coup ini jelas Renault akan berteriak : Run...Forrest ...Runnn
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... is-protege

The speed of Ghosn’s downfall, and Saikawa’s eagerness to draw a line under his career rather than stand by his long-time colleague, continues to drive conspiracy theories about his role in the events, especially among some Renault executives and their advisers.

He (Saikawa) issued a frontal condemnation of Ghosn’s alleged behavior, calling it "the dark side of Ghosn’s long reign" and lamenting that "so much power was concentrated in the hands of one individual."


“Listening to his talk about too much power being concentrated on the hands of one man, I thought I was listening to Brutus in Julius Caesar,” Richter said"
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dan bubarlah aliansi ketiga dunia... dunia kembali ke dunia yang membosankan seperti dulu VW Audi vs Toyota empire vs other spectators...
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numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46643540

Ghosn: Auto tycoon re-arrested on new charges

Former Nissan chairman Carlos Ghosn has been re-arrested on fresh charges, Japanese media report, dashing any hopes he could be released on bail.

Mr Ghosn has spent the last month in prison, accused of misusing funds and hiding $80m (£63m) of income.

But on Thursday a court rejected a request by the prosecution to extend his detention, which meant he could apply to be released on bail.

Friday's arrest is on a new charge of aggravated breach of trust.

According to Japanese broadcaster NHK, prosecutors now accuse Mr Ghosn of shifting a private investment loss of over $16m onto Nissan in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis.

A towering and revered figure in the auto industry, Mr Ghosn has not yet responded to the latest allegation - but he has consistently denied all prior accusations made against him.

He was first arrested in Tokyo in November as allegations of financial misconduct surfaced.

The BBC's Mariko Oi says that ever since Carlos Ghosn stepped off his private jet only to be taken into police custody, the case has gripped Japan with speculation rife over what could be behind such a stunning fall from grace.

The case has been highly unusual - not least for a high profile chief executive to be spending time in jail - but also because of its legal twists such as yesterday's when the court rejected an application to extend his detention, our reporter adds.

If found guilty of the financial misconduct charges he could face up to 10 years in prison as well as a fine of up to 700m Japanese yen ($6.2m; £4.9m), according to Japanese regulators.

This latest move means he will remain in prison so prosecutors can question him further.

Mr Ghosn's detention has also put into doubt the future of the Alliance - a global car manufacturing group that includes Renault, Nissan and Mitsubishi.

Nissan and Mitsubishi both sacked Mr Ghosn as chairman after his arrest last month.

But Renault has held off, choosing instead to appoint a temporary deputy chief executive to take over the running of the firm.
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Berita terbaru :

https://www.carscoops.com/2019/09/nissa ... pensation/

Udah ngaku dia karena takut kalo sama Amrik.. gak nyangka, ternyata emang [cencored]
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Re: Kasus Carlos Ghosn

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From hero to zero

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Babak baru seru kasus ini...
Setelah Ghosn secara misterius bisa kabur dari tahanan rumah di Jepang...
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wedyan dia sewa Bombardier seharga 1,3M sehari, dua biji pesawat untuk mengelabui petugas. lihai bener