MPV Wuling

[newrubble]

kan pd fikir resale value ..... 6 bln masih terlalu rugi u lepas

[b8099ok]

kan pd fikir resale value ..... 6 bln masih terlalu rugi u lepas

Risel palue termasuk oper kridit ga om?

[newrubble]

tdk lah
zhonghuans itu lbh pintar dr org org di indo .....
mrk tau mindset org org indo kalo beli bgini itu highrisk

dlm arti
(jadi jgn marah dulu ya wuling fans) credit channeling agencies (bs banks bs financial co. bs bang) akan minta borrower(s) kasih DP tdk 10 atau 20% tapi lbh bsr dr itu

sehingga
brand principal akan kasih promo

...... wang muka bs di cicil (sama tuh spt beli strata units)

jadi yg lepas unit ssdh 1 thn beneran yg sdh lelah urusan dgn brand ini (n lbh dulu jual kebon spy sisa cicilan DP bs lunas)
nah abis itu kita liat ...... di tawar brapa n putus di harga brapa
(kalo malu tar sah sah sj ngaku di harga lbh tggi dr itu)
ha ha ha

[kunaskun]

Dalam 1 taon itu utk liat lakunya atau daya tahan? Klo daya tahan sbnrnya cukup 6 bln uda keliatan wkwkwk

test daya tahan di indo mah gampang:
1. jadiin uber/grab/cs di kota besar
2. rentalan keliling jawa bali sebulan sekali.

di luar itu ya emang jatahnya RWD lah, biar pasukan RWD fanboy kebagian jatah dikit

[Bulgogi]

Ternyata haters wuling ada di mana2, selama ini kirain cuma ada di FB [emoji23]

Banyaknya haters fanboy itu ciri negara konsumtif.. saking konsumtifnya produk yg disukai jadi "agama" baru dalam hidupnya.. apa yg disukai = paling benar, yg lain kafir..

[LTZ]

gambar nu kamari leungit geuning, ieu gentosna sami wae
(gambar kemarin hilang yaa, ini gantinya sama aja)

[mike22]

Ternyata haters wuling ada di mana2, selama ini kirain cuma ada di FB [emoji23]

Banyaknya haters fanboy itu ciri negara konsumtif.. saking konsumtifnya produk yg disukai jadi "agama" baru dalam hidupnya.. apa yg disukai = paling benar, yg lain kafir..

Didiamin aja makanya orang yg ky gt... justru org ky gt emang pengen banget di react orang lain trus jadi attention whore... ini kan forum, ya fokus ke produknya aja spt kelemahan dan keunggulannya, dengan bukti2 yg nyata...

[nisfi19]

gambar nu kamari leungit geuning, ieu gentosna sami wae
(gambar kemarin hilang yaa, ini gantinya sama aja)

biasa pabrikan lebih milih "common parts" biar biaya produksi murah.... "salam satu dasborrr" , ini satu model tapi desain kaki ampe beda seperti ini.... guuddd job for full independent nya

[mochi]

infonya memang mesin 1.8 L cortez = pontiac vibe = tyt corolla gen.1, merupakan mesin pengembangan JV Toyota - GM.
Mungkin mirip kebiasaan kerjasama pengembangan mesin GM - Suzuki utk mesin small gasoline, atau GM - Isuzu utk mesin diesel.

Mengutip dari wiki :
"The Pontiac Vibe was a compact automobile that was sold by Pontiac from 2002 to 2010. It was jointly developed by General Motors along with Toyota, who manufactures the mechanically similar Toyota Matrix. Manufactured by the Toyota-GM joint venture NUMMI in Fremont, California, the Vibe succeeded the Chevrolet Prizm in production at NUMMI and like the Prizm, it was derived from the Toyota Corolla.

From 2002 to 2004, a rebadged right-hand drive variant of the Vibe was exported as the Toyota Voltz to the Japanese domestic market. The Voltz was not popular in Japan and discontinued after two model years.

Production of the Vibe ended in 2010 with the discontinuation of the Pontiac brand and the closing of NUMMI under the General Motors Chapter 11 reorganization. Its twin, the Toyota Matrix, was in production for another three years for the American market and four years for the Canadian market, as the Matrix was manufactured by Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada in Cambridge, Ontario, and was unaffected by NUMMI closing down operation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Vibe

cmiiw

[mobilover]

infonya memang mesin 1.8 L cortez = pontiac vibe = tyt corolla gen.1, merupakan mesin pengembangan JV Toyota - GM.
Mungkin mirip kebiasaan kerjasama pengembangan mesin GM - Suzuki utk mesin small gasoline, atau GM - Isuzu utk mesin diesel.

Mengutip dari wiki :
"The Pontiac Vibe was a compact automobile that was sold by Pontiac from 2002 to 2010. It was jointly developed by General Motors along with Toyota, who manufactures the mechanically similar Toyota Matrix. Manufactured by the Toyota-GM joint venture NUMMI in Fremont, California, the Vibe succeeded the Chevrolet Prizm in production at NUMMI and like the Prizm, it was derived from the Toyota Corolla.

From 2002 to 2004, a rebadged right-hand drive variant of the Vibe was exported as the Toyota Voltz to the Japanese domestic market. The Voltz was not popular in Japan and discontinued after two model years.

Production of the Vibe ended in 2010 with the discontinuation of the Pontiac brand and the closing of NUMMI under the General Motors Chapter 11 reorganization. Its twin, the Toyota Matrix, was in production for another three years for the American market and four years for the Canadian market, as the Matrix was manufactured by Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada in Cambridge, Ontario, and was unaffected by NUMMI closing down operation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Vibe

cmiiw

Thanks utk sharingnya om. Ternyata mesin corolla itu hasil joint venture sama GM. Pantes designny mesin cortez 1800 cc buatan gm saic ada kemiripan dgn mesinnya corolla. Tp pasti ada perbedaan detail2 yg bikin power outputnya dan characternya beda y

[SiulTurbo]

infonya memang mesin 1.8 L cortez = pontiac vibe = tyt corolla gen.1, merupakan mesin pengembangan JV Toyota - GM.
Mungkin mirip kebiasaan kerjasama pengembangan mesin GM - Suzuki utk mesin small gasoline, atau GM - Isuzu utk mesin diesel.

Mengutip dari wiki :
"The Pontiac Vibe was a compact automobile that was sold by Pontiac from 2002 to 2010. It was jointly developed by General Motors along with Toyota, who manufactures the mechanically similar Toyota Matrix. Manufactured by the Toyota-GM joint venture NUMMI in Fremont, California, the Vibe succeeded the Chevrolet Prizm in production at NUMMI and like the Prizm, it was derived from the Toyota Corolla.

From 2002 to 2004, a rebadged right-hand drive variant of the Vibe was exported as the Toyota Voltz to the Japanese domestic market. The Voltz was not popular in Japan and discontinued after two model years.

Production of the Vibe ended in 2010 with the discontinuation of the Pontiac brand and the closing of NUMMI under the General Motors Chapter 11 reorganization. Its twin, the Toyota Matrix, was in production for another three years for the American market and four years for the Canadian market, as the Matrix was manufactured by Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada in Cambridge, Ontario, and was unaffected by NUMMI closing down operation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Vibe

cmiiw

takurnya ini mesin cevy zafira, buat si juling ini

[mochi]

bukan om, mesin zafira itu Ecotec series... pengembangan oleh Opel (yg sekarang sdh lepas dr grup GM, dibeli PSA)

[rajapb]

wait, mesin nya cortez bisa common parts sama mesin nya altis lama yang 1zzfe?

[kunaskun]

kalau gitu enjin no worry? berasa kaya mocin atau genset cina ya, hasil copas honda atau yamaha... well its good thing lar. btw kalau jalan2 ke web baojun engine spec disebut emang pake embel2 vvt-i

[spinner999]

trit wuling tapi isinya orang2 yg kelabakan gara2 hadirnya wuling...
termasuk si NR..

bye2..SM...

[uncledog]

tdk lah
zhonghuans itu lbh pintar dr org org di indo .....
mrk tau mindset org org indo kalo beli bgini itu highrisk

dlm arti
(jadi jgn marah dulu ya wuling fans) credit channeling agencies (bs banks bs financial co. bs bang) akan minta borrower(s) kasih DP tdk 10 atau 20% tapi lbh bsr dr itu

sehingga
brand principal akan kasih promo

...... wang muka bs di cicil (sama tuh spt beli strata units)

jadi yg lepas unit ssdh 1 thn beneran yg sdh lelah urusan dgn brand ini (n lbh dulu jual kebon spy sisa cicilan DP bs lunas)
nah abis itu kita liat ...... di tawar brapa n putus di harga brapa
(kalo malu tar sah sah sj ngaku di harga lbh tggi dr itu)
ha ha ha

wkwkwkwkwk. . . tambah panas pak NR nanti para diehard fans juling disini. . . apalagi yang pada pegang target penjualan. . . seperti diatas ini wkwkwkwk

[LTZ]

trit wuling tapi isinya orang2 yg kelabakan gara2 hadirnya wuling...
termasuk si NR..

bye2..SM...

ada apa dengan om nr ?

[newrubble]

trit wuling tapi isinya orang2 yg kelabakan gara2 hadirnya wuling...
termasuk si NR..

bye2..SM...

daag bang jek

[octafiantos]

Ha ha ha ha...

[calonjenazah]

trit wuling tapi isinya orang2 yg kelabakan gara2 hadirnya wuling...
termasuk si NR..

bye2..SM...

om kok ga protes sama orang" yg kelabakan gara" hadirnya xpander di thread xpander ? atau yg kelabakan gara" ada rush terios baru ? kok spesifik di thread wuling ? nge fans sama wuling ya ? hahaha

apa jangan jangan ini thread tertutup, peraturannya disini yg boleh berpendapat yg pro dengan wuling saja ? yg kontra dan tidak mampu beli (level babu seperti saya) ga boleh berkomentar disini ya ? harus punya barangnya dulu baru boleh berpendapat ? maaf saya baru disini

[newrubble]

infonya memang mesin 1.8 L cortez = pontiac vibe = tyt corolla gen.1, merupakan mesin pengembangan JV Toyota - GM.
Mungkin mirip kebiasaan kerjasama pengembangan mesin GM - Suzuki utk mesin small gasoline, atau GM - Isuzu utk mesin diesel.

Mengutip dari wiki :
"The Pontiac Vibe was a compact automobile that was sold by Pontiac from 2002 to 2010. It was jointly developed by General Motors along with Toyota, who manufactures the mechanically similar Toyota Matrix. Manufactured by the Toyota-GM joint venture NUMMI in Fremont, California, the Vibe succeeded the Chevrolet Prizm in production at NUMMI and like the Prizm, it was derived from the Toyota Corolla.

From 2002 to 2004, a rebadged right-hand drive variant of the Vibe was exported as the Toyota Voltz to the Japanese domestic market. The Voltz was not popular in Japan and discontinued after two model years.

Production of the Vibe ended in 2010 with the discontinuation of the Pontiac brand and the closing of NUMMI under the General Motors Chapter 11 reorganization. Its twin, the Toyota Matrix, was in production for another three years for the American market and four years for the Canadian market, as the Matrix was manufactured by Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada in Cambridge, Ontario, and was unaffected by NUMMI closing down operation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Vibe

cmiiw

krn tulis 'cmiiw'
maka sy sebut salah
yg betul
dulu sampe 2005.06.21 ada aturan di amriki bhw inti nya 'vehicle origin' diliat dari brand origination

tepat nya aturan itu adalah us codes # 49 fatsal 32304 sub (a) para 3 sub-para (b) dan (c)

tapi sejak tanggal diatas dilakukan amendment sehingga brand origination tdk diliat lg sbg domestic vs foreign tapi place n value of domestic (us) origination of parts yg menentukan / determination factor

itu sebap:
GM vs tyt vs suzuki cars (sblm closed down suzuki nya) bikin new (at that time) brand ..... GEO
ada geo prizm (t.corolla)
ada geo metro (s.swift/h.barina)
ada geo trekker (s.vitara)
dan GEO discontinued as of 2005
sy tdk perlu crita scion ya yg juga established under superceded regulatory regime

itu sebap skrg dgn aturan baru
kia n hyundai bikin di georgia n alabama n tyt juga full manufacturing di amriki n mrk smua yg us manufactured(s) dianggap domestic cars

n itu smua aturan hanya u USDM n not for exportation

jadi assumption n analogy professor diatas tdk berlaku

n yg bilang sy kelabakan silakan kunci itu motor nya sblm kuatir di bawa maling ha ha ha (maaf ya sy tdk perlu main mobil bginian)

kejar sj sales target yg ada ...... sy ngerti itu susah tapi jalani sj namanya juga nasip

[LTZ]

trit wuling tapi isinya orang2 yg kelabakan gara2 hadirnya wuling...
termasuk si NR..

bye2..SM...

om kok ga protes sama orang" yg kelabakan gara" hadirnya xpander di thread xpander ? atau yg kelabakan gara" ada rush terios baru ? kok spesifik di thread wuling ? nge fans sama wuling ya ? hahaha

apa jangan jangan ini thread tertutup, peraturannya disini yg boleh berpendapat yg pro dengan wuling saja ? yg kontra dan tidak mampu beli (level babu seperti saya) ga boleh berkomentar disini ya ? harus punya barangnya dulu baru boleh berpendapat ? maaf saya baru disini

hahaha, ko beranian ya sama om NR kaya gitu. aneh.

[LTZ]

sedikit spesifikasi dari engine cortez, kenapa bore x stroke nya mengingatkan kepada 1ZZ-FE ya. pontiac vibe ? toyota corolla ?

[LTZ]

infonya memang mesin 1.8 L cortez = pontiac vibe = tyt corolla gen.1, merupakan mesin pengembangan JV Toyota - GM.
Mungkin mirip kebiasaan kerjasama pengembangan mesin GM - Suzuki utk mesin small gasoline, atau GM - Isuzu utk mesin diesel.

Mengutip dari wiki :
"The Pontiac Vibe was a compact automobile that was sold by Pontiac from 2002 to 2010. It was jointly developed by General Motors along with Toyota, who manufactures the mechanically similar Toyota Matrix. Manufactured by the Toyota-GM joint venture NUMMI in Fremont, California, the Vibe succeeded the Chevrolet Prizm in production at NUMMI and like the Prizm, it was derived from the Toyota Corolla.

From 2002 to 2004, a rebadged right-hand drive variant of the Vibe was exported as the Toyota Voltz to the Japanese domestic market. The Voltz was not popular in Japan and discontinued after two model years.

Production of the Vibe ended in 2010 with the discontinuation of the Pontiac brand and the closing of NUMMI under the General Motors Chapter 11 reorganization. Its twin, the Toyota Matrix, was in production for another three years for the American market and four years for the Canadian market, as the Matrix was manufactured by Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada in Cambridge, Ontario, and was unaffected by NUMMI closing down operation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Vibe

cmiiw

krn tulis 'cmiiw'
maka sy sebut salah
yg betul
dulu sampe 2005.06.21 ada aturan di amriki bhw inti nya 'vehicle origin' diliat dari brand origination

tepat nya aturan itu adalah us codes # 49 fatsal 32304 sub (a) para 3 sub-para (b) dan (c)

tapi sejak tanggal diatas dilakukan amendment sehingga brand origination tdk diliat lg sbg domestic vs foreign tapi place n value of domestic (us) origination of parts yg menentukan / determination factor

itu sebap:
GM vs tyt vs suzuki cars (sblm closed down suzuki nya) bikin new (at that time) brand ..... GEO
ada geo prizm (t.corolla)
ada geo metro (s.swift/h.barina)
ada geo trekker (s.vitara)
dan GEO discontinued as of 2005
sy tdk perlu crita scion ya yg juga established under superceded regulatory regime

itu sebap skrg dgn aturan baru
kia n hyundai bikin di georgia n alabama n tyt juga full manufacturing di amriki n mrk smua yg us manufactured(s) dianggap domestic cars

n itu smua aturan hanya u USDM n not for exportation

jadi assumption n analogy professor diatas tdk berlaku

n yg bilang sy kelabakan silakan kunci itu motor nya sblm kuatir di bawa maling ha ha ha (maaf ya sy tdk perlu main mobil bginian)

kejar sj sales target yg ada ...... sy ngerti itu susah tapi jalani sj namanya juga nasip

ha ha ha
oh iya om, sedikit oot. berarti dulu zaman isuzu panther keluar 2001 apakah ada campur tangan GM juga kah ? kan ada kembarannya tuh tavera ?

[uncledog]

dulu sampe 2005.06.21 ada aturan di amriki bhw inti nya 'vehicle origin' diliat dari brand origination

tepat nya aturan itu adalah us codes # 49 fatsal 32304 sub (a) para 3 sub-para (b) dan (c)

tapi sejak tanggal diatas dilakukan amendment sehingga brand origination tdk diliat lg sbg domestic vs foreign tapi place n value of domestic (us) origination of parts yg menentukan / determination factor

itu sebap:
GM vs tyt vs suzuki cars (sblm closed down suzuki nya) bikin new (at that time) brand ..... GEO
ada geo prizm (t.corolla)
ada geo metro (s.swift/h.barina)
ada geo trekker (s.vitara)
dan GEO discontinued as of 2005
sy tdk perlu crita scion ya yg juga established under superceded regulatory regime

itu sebap skrg dgn aturan baru
kia n hyundai bikin di georgia n alabama n tyt juga full manufacturing di amriki n mrk smua yg us manufactured(s) dianggap domestic cars

n itu smua aturan hanya u USDM n not for exportation

jadi assumption n analogy professor diatas tdk berlaku

maap pak NR. . . mau tanya dengan aturan di atas berarti mesin di cortez LJ479QNE2 yang sekarang itu bukan buatan toyota ???. .