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Setau gw bisa pasang di d2 yg deket gancit. Itu cuma plug n play yg mendekin reaksi pedal gas ke mesin jd teken dikit mobil ngacir. Gw minta tolong orang mercindo pas pasang dan selama ini ga ada masalah buat warranty. Kalo mau lebih aman tinggal copot aja sblm ke beres, gampang kok ga sampe 5 menit. Selamat mencoba
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Aduh setelah membaca ulang review mod jay, ane jadi kepengen tuker bpkb jadi c250 cgi nih, memang review mod jay bisa jadi ratjoen nih :mky_06: yg model facelift gini keluar tahun brp sih mod jay? 2011 apa 2012 yah? :mky_02: masih mahal kali ye 2nd nya
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asunu wrote:Setau gw bisa pasang di d2 yg deket gancit. Itu cuma plug n play yg mendekin reaksi pedal gas ke mesin jd teken dikit mobil ngacir. Gw minta tolong orang mercindo pas pasang dan selama ini ga ada masalah buat warranty. Kalo mau lebih aman tinggal copot aja sblm ke beres, gampang kok ga sampe 5 menit. Selamat mencoba
trims masukkannya bro.
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Just shares some w204 "secrets"...semoga berguna

any interest in one of these? i know there are some things that our dealers didn't explain to us that i had to learn after the fact. it might be a good idea to have a running thread as we figure things out...

1) aux input in glove compartment.
1a) if you have ipod integration, the aux input is tucked away under the plastic cover.

2) aux input is accessed from cd menu (in my non-multimedia pkg).

3) hold alarm on/off pointed at small square on driver's-side door handle to open/close sunroof and windows.

4) power source in glove box is 12v switched (i remember there was some discussion about that).

5) if you have the automatic tranny, push the stick to the left and hold it there, it'll downshift to the gear lowest possible to allow you to be in the powerband to pass cars. And pushing the stick to the right side and hold it there will put you back into the normal automatic shifting mode.

6) Little arrow on the fuel gauge points to the side of the car that the fuel filler is on.

7) there is a way to reset your service indicators and other lighting options by pressing the OK and TALK button I believe.

8) badges in back leave no holes except for the star.

9) A slight tap of up or down on the turn signal tree allows the turn signal to flash 3-4 times for a lane change and then shuts off automatically. No need to full engage the turn signal and shut it off manually.

10) Steps to Reset the TCU. Resetting the TCU will reset transmission to factory shift points and the car will 'relearn' your driving style.
(1.) Turn the ignition key to the on (not start) position.
(2.) Press the gas pedal to the floor and hold for five seconds.
(3.) Turn the key to the "off" position (don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal.
(4.) Wait at least two minutes for TCU to reset.

11) brake rotors stay at peak efficiency from feathering initiated after a certain number of windshield wipes during rain.

12) headlamp cleaners activate every 10 windshield washes.

13) when the sun / Pano roof is left open on an extremely hot sunny day, the
car will automatically close it (tilt position) after a while ( when the car is
parked) (euro p2 version only)

14) again if the car is equipped with Sun/Pano roof as well as rain sensing
wipers, the car will again close (tilt position) the roof as soon as the sensors
detect rain ( when the car is parked ) (possible euro p2 only)

15) PRE-SAFE system, which automatically closes open windows, sunroof, and move the seats, headrest + steering wheel to a more protective position - all done within milliseconds as soon as the car senses that an accident is imminent. This is the 2nd stage of pro-safe. First stage is the passive pre-emptive measure, like ESP etc. The 3rd stage is post an accident, which includes automatice shut down of engine and cutting off fuel supply + turning on hazards lights + lowering windows slightly + unlocking all doors.

16) rollbackassist : if i am on steep hills, i notice a roll back assist engages. I think it might happen if i press down on the brakes a bit harder. Release and the car holds itself for a few seconds before rolling back. Works Great!

17) autosense wipers that actually work!

18) on the cruise control stalk: If you push the stalk all the way up, it will increase the speed to the next 5mph increment (ie 52 goes to 55). If you push it down it will decrease the speed to the next 5mph increment (ie 58 goes to 55).

19) this is not somthing you can controll but the new W204 also has vents behind the rear wheels that exit out of the tail lights to keep them clean but more inportantly helps to give the car an overall drag coeffienecy of ONLY .29

20) with the MM the stereos volume will raise if you enter an area with loud noise.

21) If you have the transmission in C, and you punch off the line hard, it uses 1st gear, not second.

22) Leave your headlights in Auto mode & the parking lights & fogs will remain lit when you arm or disarm your car when it is dark.

23) Little arrow on the fuel gauge points to the side of the car that the fuel filler is on.

24) While listening to a cd, the music register or satelite radio, we all know that sometimes you can't read the full title of the song playing. Just press the # button on the dash and you will see the full title and the artist.

25) * key will allow you to jump to a specific track or radio station

26) If you have previously engaged your cruise control at lets say 70mph and are off cruse control but want to reset it to your current speed, raise the cruise control lever to the up position. This will reset it to your current speed where if you pulled the lever towards you, you'll be returned to the previous set speed.

27) slight tap on blinker gives a short 3 blinks for lane changes

28) if you use two fingers you can do all fore windows at the same time, up or down.

29) when the trunk is up and you're still in the driver's seat, you can see out the back, through the center mirror. The hinge lifts up and away, letting you see oncoming traffic before you open the door.

30) Auto dimming mirrors get light when in reverse.

31) dial mounted on the center console will not allow you to change stations or functions display unit unless the hood is raised.

32) In autos, u dont have to turn the ignition key all the way to start the vehicle. in other words, car can start before u complete the turn of the key. Also the car won’t let you re-try the ignition if the car is already on.

33) hood can be pushed up to 90 degrees while open

34) Discovered this feature yesterday. I had the wipers on permanent, not auto intermittent. When I stopped at a traffic light, rather than continuing on wiping permanently, it went into auto intermitent mode by itself. Then as soon as I started driving again, it reverted back to permanent wiping.

35) Wipers, will auto stop when the car stops, then resume when you start driving, with an occasional wipe as needed. This functions works in any mode you have your wipers on. It is dependent on how much it is raining. If it is raining alot dont expect them to stop.

36) Also when you are going down hill with your foot off the gas or on the brake, the car will shift down the tranny so you will have more controll and power to the wheels if you need it.

37) you only get the beep beep beep on the alarm if you actually have an alarm. otherwise just lights will flash.

38) tilt down mirror won't tilt down if you're backing up quickly

39) tunnel mode is available on the 2009 w204 (hold down air-recirculation button)

40) trunk has emergency release on the inside that stays lit for 60 minutes after closing.

keep it going?


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@ Asunu : Masukkan yg bagus Om.
Akhirnya ane pinang ini c200, mengalahkan kandidat2 lainnya : subaru legacy 2.5GT ( sebetulnya ini jauh lebih bagus ), camry v50hybid, accord.
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hal yang sangat menyebalkan dari mercedes, semua tipe, ac mobil eropa maunya terbuka, udara luar masuk, di 4 musim memang begitu karena kalo winter heater hidup kalo udara luar gak masuk bakalan mengembun kaca2.
tapi di indonesia kan kalo udara luar masuk, BAU.

nah mercedes ada tombol kecil di deretan tombol ac yang gambar mobil dg panah melingkar, artinya recirculation mode, udara luar gak masuk.
nah tombol ini HARUS nyala.

default settingnya mati.

harus pencet tiap mesin dihidupkan.
nah tiap pencet 20 min kemudian akan mati lagi, jadi harus pencet lagi.

di eropa idenya, default terbuka, kalo masuk terowongan panjang, kan bau,jadi dipencet. nah 20 min lg kan sudah keluar dari terowongan atau tempat bau tadi, jadi otomatis terbuka.

nah ini barang simple yang banyak orang walaupun tehnisi gak ngerti, orang mengeluh ac bau, complain trus ac dibongkar ternyata gak ada apa2. konyol.

ada cerita di koran orang beli mercedes baru trus komplain ac bau. gak ada yang bisa beresin.

sebenarnya ada filter yang menyaring bau tapi kayaknya kalah sama bau di jalanan indonesia.

nah mobil eropa yang lain cuma perlu dipencet tiap hidup ac dan akan menutup trus smapai ac mati.
not mercedes, 20 min sekali harus pencet.

semua ada di buku petunjuk. masalahnya buku petunjuknya 200+ halaman.
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ini mobil bagus...mnrt saya lebih bagus dr bmw...gak rewel
mobil saya sudah 99.500..dr baru yg benar2 ganti biaya sendiri cm ban 2x,kaki2 depan cm 4.5jt berikut ongkos,piringan ganti 1x didepan n kampas 2x depan blakang 1x di toko 74...sokbreker msh bagus semua...padahal saya bawa mobil jarang pelan...malah pernah kencang 160 di tol tanjakan agak patah sampe lompat sedikit ban gak nginjak aspal trus nyala esp sbentar...ternyata msh bagus aja kaki2 yg lain...dr posisi nyetir nyaman,bantingan empuk,mesin kencang irit,lincah..
emang merci top bgt...gak sabar nunggu w205
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Satu lagi hal yang bagus di mercy c200 cgi ini adalah resale valuenya yang salah satu paling kuat di segment sedan. mari kita tanya pasar :


mercy c class cgi 2010. dulu barunya +- 590 juta. hari ini nilainya masih :

485 juta

http://mobil.tokobagus.com/mercedes-ben ... 56781.html

485 juta

http://mobil.tokobagus.com/mercedes-ben ... 61566.html

485 juta

http://mobil.tokobagus.com/mercedes-ben ... 32839.html


rugi 105 juta paska pakai 2 tahun lebih. untuk ukuran sedan mewah kerugian segini termasuk fantastis dikitnya, artinya ruginya termasuk dikit sekali. liat aja beli crv 2.4 / fortuner di tahun 2010 senilai 386 / 421 juta, hari ini di jual ruginya juga sekitar 100 jutaan. padahal mercy handicap lebih mahal 200 juta lagi banding crv. namun ternyata ruginya sama, dan dari segi persentasi jelas resale value mercy tipe ini lebih kuat banding crv / fortuner malah.


tapi memang lebih baik banding sedan vs sedan. cuman mau illustrasi doang, tapi OK, mari kita lakukan.


jika dulu orang yang percaya ama mitos bahwa mobil jerman hancur resale valuenya, dan uang 600 jutaannya di pake untuk beli sebuah :


toyota camry 3.5 q 2010 yang dulu barunya 647 juta, ngak beda jauh ama mercy c200 cgi, hari ini sisa nilai jual kembali camrynya cuman sisa :


425 juta

http://mobil.tokobagus.com/toyota/toyot ... 35172.html

420 juta

http://mobil.tokobagus.com/toyota/toyot ... 61112.html


rugi 227 juta paska pakai 2 tahunan, vs cuman rugi 105 juta jika beli mercy c200 cgi.


beda jauh, ruginya camry malah dua kali lipat lebih iya.


jadi heran kenapa selama ini orang pada nuduh mobil jerman resale valuenya jeblok banding misalnya toyota. mungkin mereka banding resale value mercy vs avanza kali, ya jelas no fight karena selisih harganya aja beda jauh.


buktinya begitu di adu ama lawan yang harganya setara, mirip, eh malah si jerman menang jauh.
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RV : kalau C63 bekasnya brp duit?
STREET RACING IN A 4xx whp/1xxx nm atw in a 3050cc DIESEL MPV IS NOT A CRIME
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htannis wrote:RV : kalau C63 bekasnya brp duit?

C63 AMG ? wah itu dulu barunya udah mahal banget, minimal 2 Milliar ada pasti. harga selangit gitu resale valuenya ya ngak mungkin bisa sekuat saudaranya c200 cgi. tapi saya yakin toh resale valuenya udah pasti tetap jauh lebih kuat banding misalnya sedan lexus, yang sudah masuk guinness book of records sebagai mobil yang resale valuenya hilang cepat.


mau banding sih boleh, cuman datanya agak susah carinya mobil ginian, misalnya u tau ngak mercy c63 dulu tahun 2010 barunya berapa OTR ?
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mantap bgt nih reviewnya, jadi penasaran nanya deh.. maklum nubi culun :mky_01:
kmaren denger kawan crita ada yg modif c200 avg jd tampang c63 amg, ganti casing ori langsung pasang alias tinggal leb kaya iklan sosis..
emang kalo dimensi C200 dan dudukan buat casingnya sama persis ya ama c63 amg?
kalau ternyata sama, kira-kira selain c200 seri berapa lagi ya yg bisa masuk? kali aja bisa jd pencerahan kawan-kawan yg udah lama kepincut c63.
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banyak yang harus diganti.
dan akhirnya ketahuan juga.

kap mesin
bumper depan belakang
side skirt

kaliper rem.
disc rotor

percuma deh tetap ketahuan.

trus kali mesin hidup pasti beda. soalnya c200 kan suara mesinnya halus

c63 dari jauh dah kedengaran.

c63 kalo gak salah harganya 1.7M

dan jangan salah mobil ginian lebih kuat bekasnya drp c class dibawahnha karena unitnya gak banyak.
dan mobil ini ada banyak penggemar.
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tetangga sebelah rumah saya punya
c250 cgi coupe

dirumah jadi tampang c 63 amg

begitu saya lihat kap mesinnya langsung tau itu palsu.

jadi udah deh percuma buang2 duit aja
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ganti2 kap mesin dsb itu mahal.

side skirt c 280 avg aja 6 juta sebelah.

jadi untuk ubah c200 jd c 63 bisa habis 100 juta.

cuma buat ketahuan orang.

orang yang gak ngerti akan pikir "oh itu mercy biasa"

yang ngerti "haha c 63 palsu"

jadi buat apa tipu diri sendiri.


sama2 habis 100 juta mending ganti c 200 jadi c 250 avg.

power lebih besar
dapat pernik2 amg.
dan asli
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denger2 katanya c200 sama c250 mesinnya sama 1800 cgi turbo, makanya harganya beda dikit sama pernah pernik c250 adv lebih lengkap, apa bener yah?
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Gak ada salahnya tampang dibagusin ikut2 c63. Tapi kalo labelnya dikasi c63 itu baru norak.
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c 200 dan c 250 cgi
mesin sama 4 silinder 1800 turbo

beda turbo kit nya dan ecu nya.

kelengkapan dalamnya juga beda banyak
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W204 yang model ini lama-lama diliatin bagus juga :mky_02:

kalo dibandingin W204 non-FL yang lampu depannya bener-bener kotak kaku gitu desainnya :off_bored: yg facelift ini berasa dia agak terinspirasi dari tarikan garis lampunya seri 3 E90 :e-think:
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newbie tertarik ama c250 avg tahun 2010, cuma berhubung belom pernah pake mobil eropa, minta masukannya suhu2 di sini.
Kalo gak salah mercy kasih garansi 3 tahun bebas biaya perawatan yah? setelah itu gimana dengan biaya perawatannya?

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mulai 2010 kalo gak salah
3 tahun free service and garansi (ISP)
trus tambah 2 tahun ISP light
free service minus garansi.

tapi pemilik dikasi option untuk perpanjang masa garansi jadi tambah 2 th lg.

jadi total free service dan garansi 5 th.

isp light tuh artinya kalo misalnya tie rod rusak gak diganti.

kalo isp itu diganti.

kalo gak salah isp light jadi isp tambah 17 juta untuk 2 tahun.

ongkos service kalo bengkel resmi 3 jutaan 8000km / 1 tahun.

kalo non resmi 1.3-1.5 juta.

pengalaman saya pake mercedes
tie rod rusak di 50-60rb km tak tergantung dari usia kendaraan.

c280 2009 saya rusak di 58rb,th 2012. kira2 3 th 6 bulan.

c23p 2007 w 203 ipar aaya rusak di
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selama isp
benar2 beli bensin doang.

ok ban kalo gundul beli sendiri.
tapi yang lain semua gratis.

mau rusak apa aja diganti gratis
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c230 w 203 ipar saya rusak arm dan tie rod di 60 rb di 2012.


tie rod dan arm di bengkel resmi 15 juta.

saya betulin di non resmi (toko 74 gunung sahari) habis 7 juta.

accu asli bawaan varta tahan 4 tahun.
beli sendiri 95A Rp 2 juta

perpanjang ISP kalo belum dapat yang isp light 34 juta.

harus perpanjang sebelum isp expired.

tinggal hitung2 deh bakal kepake gak itu perpanjangan.

saya gak perpanjang trus service di non resmi gak sampe segitu bayarnya. jadi saya dulu gak perpanjang.

ini 1 th lebih bayar sendiri cuma habis
gak sampe 15 juta
service 2x.
ganti oli trans gardan
ganti accu
ganti arm dan tie rod

c 250 cgi is very recomended
tenaga besar bbm irit
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aspsilver wrote:c230 w 203 ipar saya rusak arm dan tie rod di 60 rb di 2012.


tie rod dan arm di bengkel resmi 15 juta.

saya betulin di non resmi (toko 74 gunung sahari) habis 7 juta.

accu asli bawaan varta tahan 4 tahun.
beli sendiri 95A Rp 2 juta

perpanjang ISP kalo belum dapat yang isp light 34 juta.

harus perpanjang sebelum isp expired.

tinggal hitung2 deh bakal kepake gak itu perpanjangan.

saya gak perpanjang trus service di non resmi gak sampe segitu bayarnya. jadi saya dulu gak perpanjang.

ini 1 th lebih bayar sendiri cuma habis
gak sampe 15 juta
service 2x.
ganti oli trans gardan
ganti accu
ganti arm dan tie rod

c 250 cgi is very recomended
tenaga besar bbm irit
thanks masukannya om.. :frm_salut: kalo gitu mending gak usah diperpanjang ISPnya
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oom F-man 10
kalo mobil nya sudah dapat ISP light 2 tahun,

masi boleh dipikirkan tambah dana supaya dapat ISP 2 tahun.

tanya aja sama bengkel resmi tambahnya berapa? kalo gak sampe 20 juta, boleh diperhitungkan.

kalo mobilnya dipake tiap hari kayak saya, tambah 17 juta masi menarik. kalo tambah 34 juta, sih mending gak usah.
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Saya baru ambil C250 AVA AMG PlUS 2013,mobil german pertama gw,jd msh banyak oon nya... kmrn Kursi depan penumpang normal maju mundur tp td pagi tiba2 pas mau di maju mundurin dll ga mau gerak,kalo yg bagian driver sih normal,udh bilang sih ke dealer,rabu baru disuruh kesana krn senin libur.itu ada yg tau ga kenapa bisa begitu,berhubung semuanya pake elektrik gw jd ga berani kotak katik,mana masih oon lg ama mobil german,,,hehe...