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manipol toki ane lom perna liat om,, tp kayaknya 4-2-1 yah (kayaknya lho ya) karena sesuai ama karakter mesinnya yang emang yahud di rpm rendah...

iya bener kata jaldut filter udara, ngaruh bgt lho om,,, btw udah perna carbon clean belon? cobain juga deh om :big_peace:

@ pakopat : haizz,, runge kuta itu annum bos bukan dinstruk :2gunfire:
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KIOS3R wrote: @ pakopat : haizz,, runge kuta itu annum bos bukan dinstruk :2gunfire:
nah, nanti ente akan belajar runge kutta orde 4 untuk menganalisis response struktur kalo kena gempa.... :big_weee:
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maskopat wrote:
KIOS3R wrote: @ pakopat : haizz,, runge kuta itu annum bos bukan dinstruk :2gunfire:
nah, nanti ente akan belajar runge kutta orde 4 untuk menganalisis response struktur kalo kena gempa.... :big_weee:
orde 4,, udah belajar tp ga ngerti karena iterasinya kepanjangan,,, sampe gigi gondrong jg ga beres beres...
ane lom ambil rekayasa gempa, yang ngajar djoni simota,,, ane nunggu yang ngajar adiyoso k&n aja, wakakkaa

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KIOS3R wrote:
maskopat wrote:
KIOS3R wrote: @ pakopat : haizz,, runge kuta itu annum bos bukan dinstruk :2gunfire:
nah, nanti ente akan belajar runge kutta orde 4 untuk menganalisis response struktur kalo kena gempa.... :big_weee:
orde 4,, udah belajar tp ga ngerti karena iterasinya kepanjangan,,, sampe gigi gondrong jg ga beres beres...
ane lom ambil rekayasa gempa, yang ngajar djoni simota,,, ane nunggu yang ngajar adiyoso k&n aja, wakakkaa

maap oot :ngacir:
masa pake iterasi sih? bukannya tinggal run di program aja? :mrgreen:
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hayah gelo,, ajarin matlab donk bos :e-pray: kmaren nyari omega buat stodola aja setengah mampus, akhirnya minta temen bantuin di matlab, udah gitu matrix massa nya salah tulis lagi,,, smg dosennya gak notice :upss:
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kapsul 97 wrote: jadi yang terpikir saat ini adalah :
1. Upgrade pengapian (koil, busi, kabel busi) untuk mesin standar, kebetulan platina dah rombak ke CDI
2. Dial Cam
3. PnP

naah.. dari agan-agan ganteng sekalian, mungkin ada pengalaman meningkatkan power/speed/kemampuan berlari kendaraannya (terutama mesin bensin) untuk mesin standard ???
1. Bersihkan ruang bakar & intake valve sudah ?
2. TBS = Throttle Body Spacer (biasanya improve tarikan bawah mesin NA)
3. Header
4. AIC aka Interchiller, dgn suhu intake lebih dingin, udara lebih padat, juga Timing Pengapian bisa dimajukan.

Ini kalo dr sisi pandang saya pribadi.
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kres....matlab itu bisa bikin mesin jadi kenceng gak....?? :big_weee: :big_weee:
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hmmm... mata kuliah apa nich ye ... ? :big_smoking:

jadi :
manifold 4-2-1 --> polish --> iridium --> filter udara racing ....

ada yang tahu estimasi biaya nya berapa ya? bengkel referensi yang terpercaya?

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Turboman wrote:
kapsul 97 wrote: jadi yang terpikir saat ini adalah :
1. Upgrade pengapian (koil, busi, kabel busi) untuk mesin standar, kebetulan platina dah rombak ke CDI
2. Dial Cam
3. PnP

naah.. dari agan-agan ganteng sekalian, mungkin ada pengalaman meningkatkan power/speed/kemampuan berlari kendaraannya (terutama mesin bensin) untuk mesin standard ???
1. Bersihkan ruang bakar & intake valve sudah ?
2. TBS = Throttle Body Spacer (biasanya improve tarikan bawah mesin NA)
3. Header
4. AIC aka Interchiller, dgn suhu intake lebih dingin, udara lebih padat, juga Timing Pengapian bisa dimajukan.

Ini kalo dr sisi pandang saya pribadi.

jadi binuuuuunnn .... :frm_bang_head: :2gunfire:
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@ jalu : bisa om, bikin ngerjain tugas lebih kenceng :big_weee:

@ om turboman : mengenai TBS, banyak temen2 yang udah pake tp malah ngempos or gak kerasa efeknya, tapi yang bilang ngaruh bgt juga ada,, itu kenapa ya? btw ada "mainan" baru yang bikin angin masuk ke intake mirip2 sama TBS, namanya "cyclone3" ada yg udh perna pake?
untuk interchiller jelasin donk om, kayanya asik nih...

@ om kaplet : skalian porting om, kagok polish doank,,,

estimasi ane....

exhaust fullset 3-4jt
PnP 2jtan untuk kijang
busi 4 bijiq sekitar 400an
filter udara JFC sekitar 250-300, K&N 800-1jt

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analisa sy, keliatannya oom kapsul kbanyakan "takut" nya nih upgrade yg d lakukan bakal gagal :upss: :upss:
buat catatan aja nih oom, smua list upgrade yg d saranin d atas beresiko membuat konsumsi bbm jd lbh boros, tp jangan d artikan bahwa hal tsb PASTI bikin konsumsi lbh boros.................

beresiko itu dlm artian: performa mesin meningkat----->laju kendaraan lbh cepat----->kaki kanan akhirnya jd "gatal" buat neken pedal gas lbh dalem..........gitu lhoooooo :big_weee:

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lagipula rasanya pnp itu jaman sekarang bukan lagi hal yg serumit/sesulit dulu deh cmiiw
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hoooiya................
satu lagi masukan utk bikin performa meningkat TANPA resiko sama sekali : ganti mobil :big_weee: :big_weee:
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doq wrote:hoooiya................
satu lagi masukan utk bikin performa meningkat TANPA resiko sama sekali : ganti mobil :big_weee: :big_weee:
kata sape,,, kalo ganti mobil gak berresiko, gw udah ganti mobil dari dulu fer...

resiko ditabokin emak, resiko makin banyak cewe yang ngedeketin gw, resiko makin OCD sama mobil gw :upss:
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ada jg kok opsi lain....yaitu ganti paking cyl head kijang dng yg lbh tipis supaya kompresi meningkat (cyl head gak usah discrap/slip), selanjutnya timing pengapian diset untuk pertamax......pasti tenaganya lbh maknyoss :e-dance:

konsekuensi : bbmnya jg mesti pertamax untuk seterusnya.... :upss:
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nah itu dia,, mumpung kijang om kaplet tuh taun lama, pertahankan pake premium, jgn mau bikin kaya pertamina n pemerintah (buat yg kerja di 2 instansi ini maap ya).
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Ganti paking tipis harus hati2, ntar kompresi tinggi tapi paking lebih lemah. Bisa mbleduk tuh head gasket.

Kalau ada info merk paking tipis yg bagus, boleh dong infonya.
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packing merk TRD ada kan om? cm entah buat kijang ada apa kaga,,,
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KIOS3R wrote:
doq wrote:hoooiya................
satu lagi masukan utk bikin performa meningkat TANPA resiko sama sekali : ganti mobil :big_weee: :big_weee:
kata sape,,, kalo ganti mobil gak berresiko, gw udah ganti mobil dari dulu fer...

resiko ditabokin emak, resiko makin banyak cewe yang ngedeketin gw, resiko makin OCD sama mobil gw :upss:
itu mah bonus nya kres...... :ungg: :ungg:
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Modifnya bertahap saja, jadi bisa merasakan improvementnya. Paling mudah dimulai dari ganti filter udara terlebih dahulu, kalau bisa yang open, tarikan pasti berasa lebih ringan.
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@all : iya nich, kayaknya sekarnag terpikir wat ganti filter udara aja dulu kali ya + sama busi, cuma jangan yang ampe iridium juga dulu, jadi mau lihat perubahan nya kayak apa. jujur sebenarnya pengennya tenaga nya juga yang ga wah wah banget juga sich.

N bener kata Oom doq, emang rada males kalu yang upgrade nya dah ngerobah dari standard macem PnP tadi ... ^_^

kalu filter udara JFC or K&N, nah sebenarnya model filter udara kayak gini kalu dah kotor bisa bersihin sendiri kan ya? maksudnya ga perlu ganti baru lagi gitu kalu kotor seperti saringan udara yang biasa?

untuk busi selain yang iridium, yang dibawah nya ada rekomendasi ora ya ? misal BOSCH, bagus kaga tuch?
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oh iya, untuk filter udara nya, lebih bagus yang model replacement apa open air ya? karena kalu open air ada kekhawatiran kemasukan air kalu hujan ...

kalu harga kit pembersih nya berapaan ya kira-kira ?

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filter kan didalem mesin om, gak ada cerita kemasukan air hujan :big_weee:
kit pembersih merk K&N sekitar 200an.

busi langsung yang iridium aja,, longlife, busi sendiri gak terlalu naekin tenaga, tp lumayan lah...

untuk filter, kalo openair musti beli pipa intake, kalo replacement ga usah
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KIOS3R wrote:filter kan didalem mesin om, gak ada cerita kemasukan air hujan :big_weee:
kit pembersih merk K&N sekitar 200an.

busi langsung yang iridium aja,, longlife, busi sendiri gak terlalu naekin tenaga, tp lumayan lah...

untuk filter, kalo openair musti beli pipa intake, kalo replacement ga usah
better mana ya Oom, yang replacement ato open air?
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Nunut skalian deh, menrt warga SM, next level murmer apa y? sy slama ni cuma STD aj buat engine, pake oli sesuai rekomen pabrik 10w40. Baru ganti filter udara dgn FIN, hasil lumayan tuh utk tarikan. Mbl sy tokinov bensin 05, km sktr 100 ribuan. Pengen XCS tp over budget.
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@kapsul:
ya susah ya, ingin upgrade performa tanpa merubah/mengganti komponen standar, bingung deh mo kasih saran apaan..........paling ganti mobil aja oom :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
btw, utk saat ini bwat oom kapsul opsi ganti element AF keliatannya bh cocok (ease of mind nya) walo jujur aja, peningkatan nya kurang signifikan imho............but its okey, smua emank harus d lakukan step by step, yg mana cepat ato lambat penggantian AF ini emank di perlukan :ungg:
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