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ngukur2 celah nih... sounds hmm.... menarik... :e-think:
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ayooo Oom Kopat, dah pake celah berapa aja ?
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selain diukur....sekalian laah dirasakan celahnya...... :upss: :ngacir:
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jalu wrote:selain diukur....sekalian laah dirasakan celahnya...... :upss: :ngacir:
naaahhh.. kalu ini ahli nya ya si SL itu, kan dah kuenceng tuh, jadi pasti dah ngrasain dah celahnya, apalgi busi letter 'L'
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jadi ceritanya kemarin dah cobain :

JFC + BOSCH 4 kaki ...

untuk akselerasi and tarikan emang berasa lebih enteng, dan untuk tarikan atas emang aga sedikit bertenaga sich tapi ga terlalu wah, kira-kira itu apa karena faktor businya ya? jadi apinya kurang konsisten gitu di putaran atas, kalu ane ganti iridium kira-kira ada pengaruh perubahan lagi ga ya? terutama untuk putaran atas ini? CMIIW ... mohon masukan nya ya Oom

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Bos, nanya kalau ECU Megasquirt bagus nggak ya? Terus bisa diremapping? Lumayan nih ECU murah meriah....
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kalu mau ganti pengapian businya doang jadi Iridium ... kira-kira perlu setting karbu ga ya?
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Untuk mesin yang masih standar, mekanik balap Wie Wie Rianto menyarankan jangan menggunakan busi yang berkemampuan tinggi. Selain tidak sesuai dengan kapasitas mesin, menurutnya busi sejenis itu butuh bensin beroktan tinggi.

Maka dari itu, lihat dulu kemampuan tungganganmu. Apakah high atau low compression. Sebabnya, perbedaan itu bisa berakibat fatal jika salah pasang busi. "Beda mengaplikasi nomor atau jenis busi yang tertera pada kemasan akan mengakibatkan rusaknya ECU," bilang Rudy, punggawa Lestari Motor.
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ada yang bisa kashi comment untuk statement di atas ga ya ?
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Busi yang terlalu dingin akan mengakibatkan tertumpuknya kerak, karena pembakaran tidak sempurna. Kalau itu mengganggu kinerja sensor, emang iya. Kalau merusak ECU, apa iya?
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Oom asudarsono, ada yang bilang juga, misal kayak merek Denso, mereka buat busi iridium, ada yang buat mesin standard dan ada yang untuk mesin balap (katakanlah), memang ada seperti itu ya? kalu memang ada apa memang hanya merek Denso saja ?

maksud saya busi iridium itu apakah hanya memang untuk kendaraan yang bekompresi tinggi ?
kalau mobilnya seperti punya saya (Kijang Kapsul Karbu, standard semua kondisinya) apakah tidak rekomen untuk menggunakan iridium ini ?

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kapsul 97 wrote:jadi ceritanya kemarin dah cobain :

JFC + BOSCH 4 kaki ...

untuk akselerasi and tarikan emang berasa lebih enteng, dan untuk tarikan atas emang aga sedikit bertenaga sich tapi ga terlalu wah, kira-kira itu apa karena faktor businya ya? jadi apinya kurang konsisten gitu di putaran atas, kalu ane ganti iridium kira-kira ada pengaruh perubahan lagi ga ya? terutama untuk putaran atas ini? CMIIW ... mohon masukan nya ya Oom

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hmm....
karbu udah cb diseting blm ? :roll:
AFAIK filter yg lbh plong membutuhkan penyesuaian di karbu supaya Lambda tetap mendekati ideal

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asudarsono wrote:Bos, nanya kalau ECU Megasquirt bagus nggak ya? Terus bisa diremapping? Lumayan nih ECU murah meriah....
disini ada yg jual gak ?
saya jg udah lama penasaran sm Megasquirt...
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jalu wrote:
kapsul 97 wrote:jadi ceritanya kemarin dah cobain :

JFC + BOSCH 4 kaki ...

untuk akselerasi and tarikan emang berasa lebih enteng, dan untuk tarikan atas emang aga sedikit bertenaga sich tapi ga terlalu wah, kira-kira itu apa karena faktor businya ya? jadi apinya kurang konsisten gitu di putaran atas, kalu ane ganti iridium kira-kira ada pengaruh perubahan lagi ga ya? terutama untuk putaran atas ini? CMIIW ... mohon masukan nya ya Oom

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hmm....
karbu udah cb diseting blm ? :roll:
AFAIK filter yg lbh plong membutuhkan penyesuaian di karbu supaya Lambda tetap mendekati ideal

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bisa ceritain detail nya Kakak :big_peace:

kira-kira setting apanya yang harus dirubah di karbu nya, jadi biar enak mesen ke tukang karbunya .. CMIIW
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kalo di bengkel2 lokal, istilah yg umum itu "stelan angin".... :D
bilang aja hbs ganti filter yg lbh plong & minta stelan anginnya diatur supaya ngepas...
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Om Kapsul : setahu saya yg penting range suhunya. Yang sering orang lakukan untuk mengetahui apakah busi cocok untuk mesin tertentu, adalah melihat warna kerak di busi setelah beberapa ratus km. Jadi harus trial and error (maaf). Saya dengar busi iridium terdiri dari beberapa tipe. Ada yang lebih panjang ada yang lebih pendek. Kalau misalnya busi bro terlalu dingin ya cari yang lebih panjang dan sebaliknya. Jadi bukan masalah ujungnya tapi panjang pendeknya.

Apakah perlu busi khusus, IMHO, gak perlu selama mesin kita masih non-turbo dan pakai bensin dari SPBU.

Ini ada situs yang cukup singkat padat :
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/techinfo/s ... asp#racing

Setiap modifikasi perlu tune up terhadap karbu dan timing, bro. Dalam hal pemasangan filter free flow ini, udara yg masuk karbu makin besar, maka perlu dicari setting shg perbandingan udara : bensin tetap 14:1.

Megasquirt ada aja yg jual ..... Harganya separuh Haltek nih.
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@Oom asudarsono :

paham dah Oom, berarti dalam hal ini bisa kita asumsikan sebenarnya untuk mesin standard penggunaan busi s/d level iridium ga terlalu diperlukan ya, tapi kalu sampai level platinum mungkin masih okay ya ? CMIIW
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udah bungkus aja itu Megasquirtnya om.....stand alone lho.... :e-dance:
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jalu wrote:
asudarsono wrote:Bos, nanya kalau ECU Megasquirt bagus nggak ya? Terus bisa diremapping? Lumayan nih ECU murah meriah....
disini ada yg jual gak ?
saya jg udah lama penasaran sm Megasquirt...
megasquirt,,, denger squirt kok saya jadi inget pelem AV japan yang barusan gw tonton yak :upss:
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Elly Tran Ha?

Oooo bukan bukan, ini ECU yg bisa diremapping sambil kita jalan di mobil. Macam yg dipakai Vin Diesel di Fast and Furious. Kalau di Kompie ada Linux, di ECU ada Megasquirt.

Kalau om Jalu udah recommend .... makin tenang aku.
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kaga,, jepun om,, ada deh artisnya,, kalo ane sebut ntar malu sama bang jalu n pak putik :e-whistle:
hmm,, haltech n greedy jg bisa setting sambil jalan kan om?
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O bisa ya?
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om sudar, megasquirt nya bisa dipasang di SL gak? boleh juga tuh...
megasquirt ini versi open source ECU ya? :e-think:
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waktu ane liat gallant yang di setting ama temen ane sih gitu om,, dibawa ke tol,, yg duduk di belakang nyetel pake laptop
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KIOS3R wrote:waktu ane liat gallant yang di setting ama temen ane sih gitu om,, dibawa ke tol,, yg duduk di belakang nyetel pake laptop
ini pake apaan? megasquirt, greedy atau haltech? :e-think:
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maskopat wrote:om sudar, megasquirt nya bisa dipasang di SL gak? boleh juga tuh...
megasquirt ini versi open source ECU ya? :e-think:
:thanks: for the info
AFAIK Megasquirt sama dng ECU standalone lainnya, jadi bs untuk dipake diberbagai mesin mbl.CMIIW
tapi kalo SL masih tetap sistem karbu + pengapian distributor maka ECU standalone ini nggak ada gunanya.
ECU stand alone akan bs berguna kalo SL-nya dimodif jadi injeksi, kalo perlu sekalian dibikin distributorless... :frm_tumbright:

diluar negeri udah banyak kok yg modif seperti ini secara DIY (mesin karbu lawas dibikin jd injeksi), contoh : http://www.finkbuilt.com/blog/megasquirt/
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