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stel timing pengapian aja dulu.....kalo msh blm oke baru deh utak atik yg lain
AFAIK mesin low comp gak masalah dikasi bensin oktan tinggi (yg penting timing pengapian diset), yg jadi masalah itu kalo mesin high comp dikasi bensin oktan rendah.

lha wong mesin kijang 5K jadul aja ada kenop "octan selector" di distributornya (yg ditutup mika bening...segaris dng vacuum advancer) :D

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wiw mantap bang jal,, nah ini baru ilmu namanya,,, gak kaya yang di "u-know-where"
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report barusan isi pertamax spbu di bdg kena 6900.
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yoi bro, bbrapa hari yg lalu naek nya bikin sakit jiwa, skr ane balik lg ke premium
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KIOS3R wrote:yoi bro, bbrapa hari yg lalu naek nya bikin sakit jiwa, skr ane balik lg ke premium
btul om biaya bulanan naek kenceng.
kbnrn msh karyawan n ngandelin gaji.
kasian yg plat item dipake dagang om.
porsi biaya BBM kena naek dr 4500 jd 6900. 53% lho!

o iya mohon info.
klo plat item diesel. solarnya msh disubsidikah?
klo iya bakal byk yg migrasi ke diesel tuh.
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silverlining wrote:
KIOS3R wrote:yoi bro, bbrapa hari yg lalu naek nya bikin sakit jiwa, skr ane balik lg ke premium
btul om biaya bulanan naek kenceng.
kbnrn msh karyawan n ngandelin gaji.
kasian yg plat item dipake dagang om.
porsi biaya BBM kena naek dr 4500 jd 6900. 53% lho!

o iya mohon info.
klo plat item diesel. solarnya msh disubsidikah?
klo iya bakal byk yg migrasi ke diesel tuh.
menarik nih, SL diswap ke 4D56T... atau 4M41T... :e-think:
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4D56 aja mas...n/a engine...iritt..... :e-dance:
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jalu wrote:4D56 aja mas...n/a engine...iritt..... :e-dance:
cocok gak ya dengan gearbox ane sekarang? :e-think:
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ya beli mesin kumplit sm girboknya,heheheh..
tapi saya menduga girboknya bisa cocok, sebab mesin SL kan sama dng L300, mudah2an aja girboknya jg bs plug in. CMIIW

kalo jadi swap ke disel...jgn lupa itung final gearnya..... :D
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nah, nyari final gear kan gak gampang....
sekalian aja ya tambahin transfer case dan differential depan... :e-think:
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ya sebenernya bisa aja pake final gear bawaan, gak masalah.
konsekuensinya top speed jadi turun krn rpm disel kan banter2nya kisaran 4000rpm :D
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jalu wrote:saya nonton berita di tv jg gitu, semua mbl plat hitam gak boleh minum premium lagi gak peduli tahun pembuatannya semua sama.

pertanyaan saya gimana dong dng mobil niaga berplat hitam ?
lha plat merah gmn?
Udah gaji dari pajak, konsumsi bensin msh disubsidi, pdhl lbh bnyk buat jalan2 drpd dinas.
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klo beneran diberlakukan ya berharap aja harga minyak dunia ga melonjak lebih dari $80/barrel

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aburaza wrote:
jalu wrote:saya nonton berita di tv jg gitu, semua mbl plat hitam gak boleh minum premium lagi gak peduli tahun pembuatannya semua sama.

pertanyaan saya gimana dong dng mobil niaga berplat hitam ?
lha plat merah gmn?
Udah gaji dari pajak, konsumsi bensin msh disubsidi, pdhl lbh bnyk buat jalan2 drpd dinas.

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jalu wrote:ya sebenernya bisa aja pake final gear bawaan, gak masalah.
konsekuensinya top speed jadi turun krn rpm disel kan banter2nya kisaran 4000rpm :D
hm... iya sih.. sekarang kalo di gear 5 dan RPM di 4000, kecepatan di kisaran 130+ kpj... mungkin perlu nurunin final gear ratio sekitar 1.5 kali ya.. :e-think:
tapi nanti gear 1 nya jadi terlalu halus neh... :e-think:
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gpp halus....kan torsi disel maknyuzz..... :D
lagian kalo masih tetap pake final gear aslinya, nanti gigi 1 nya pendek bgt..kayak truk hehehe.... :mrgreen:

btw....gardan SL sama L300 itu akur gak ??
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jalu wrote:gpp halus....kan torsi disel maknyuzz..... :D
lagian kalo masih tetap pake final gear aslinya, nanti gigi 1 nya pendek bgt..kayak truk hehehe.... :mrgreen:

btw....gardan SL sama L300 itu akur gak ??
sebenernya, sekarang pun ane jarang bejeg gas sampe 4000RPM kecuali kephephet...
gardan SL vs L300 diesel yah...?

btw kak, kalo swap mesin gini, surat2 gimana ya? kan kalo pas razia, ketahuan banget mesin bensin dan diesel... :e-think:
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yg lbh paham urusan birokrasi ganti kelamin...eh ganti mesin itu pak peot.... :ungg:
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ganti mobilnya aja deh sekalian. diDesain untuk bensin, dipasang diesel, ntar getarannya sama seperti bajaj loh :big_peace:
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hmm...ada yg masih inget di tahun 90'an....??
waktu itu mobil2 ber-BBG marak banget, taksi2 hampir semua pake BBG, bis PPD pake BBG dan beberapa mbl pribadi jg ikut pake BBG. Tinggal pasang conversion kit, dan mbl siap pake BBG.

Lantas kenapa kok tau2 jadi menyusut ya pengguna nya ?? :e-think: skrg tinggal 1 perusahaan taksi aja, sisanya busway sama bajaj. Dari 21 SPBG di jakarta tinggal 10 yg beroperasi.
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Pakai BBG itu tenaganya berkurang. Lagipula repot kalau SPBU BBG sedikit, antri ketika mengisi. Tempat nya juga jauh, keburu kehabisan gas deh. Kebijakan BBG cocoknya hanya untuk angkutan umum, yang rute nya situ-situ saja. Kalau mobil probadi keluar kota bisa repot di jalan.

Saya pernah naik taksi bbg, ternyata tabung nya ditaruh di Bagasi. Akhirnya koper saya tidak muat di bagasi. Kebayang kalau hal itu terjadi di mobil anda?
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ilhami wrote:ganti mobilnya aja deh sekalian. diDesain untuk bensin, dipasang diesel, ntar getarannya sama seperti bajaj loh :big_peace:
yah, gak menyelesaikan tantangan dong.... :ngacir:
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Bajaj itu pakai BBG, krn dari pabriknya di India begitu. Bukan krn keinginan org kita.

Yah, itulah angkutan umum pakai BBG, angkutan pribadi pakai pertamax. Lalu sopo yg pakai premium.
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yang bingung, kenapa gak bikin premium non subsidi yah?? :mrgreen:
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ilhami wrote:Pakai BBG itu tenaganya berkurang. Lagipula repot kalau SPBU BBG sedikit, antri ketika mengisi. Tempat nya juga jauh, keburu kehabisan gas deh. Kebijakan BBG cocoknya hanya untuk angkutan umum, yang rute nya situ-situ saja............
dulu pernah ngobrol2 sama pengemudi taksi bbg, memang kendala utama nya saat itu adalah spbg yg jumlahnya sangat terbatas, dan biasanya pun antrian nya super panjang.
lha........ga takut tiba2 mogok d jalan?
menurut mereka, si mesin masih bsa nenggak bbm "biasa" kok, tinggal rubah switch selector nya aja CMIIW

dan setuju sama oom ilham, utk kendaraan pribadi sebenernya kendala terbesar ada di ukuran tanki bbg nya
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