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observer wrote:
conan wrote:Mungkin Nissan Lafesta juga akan begini..
Mr. Szli, kalau Nissan Lafesta punya dimensi dan packaging seperti [cencored], dan dijual seharga Serena, anda pilih yang mana??
cough, C25, cough

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observer wrote:
conan wrote:Mungkin Nissan Lafesta juga akan begini..
Think so.

Mr. Szli, kalau Nissan Lafesta punya dimensi dan packaging seperti [cencored], dan dijual seharga Serena, anda pilih yang mana??
Jelas pilih C25.

Honda Indonesia salah kalau ckd Edix, seharusnya ikut cara Nissan.
Jangan masukin dulu New Odyssey, lebih baik ckd Odyssey lama yang sudah stop produksi di Jepang dan jual seharga serena.
Dari pada ckd Edix lebih baik ckd Odyssey lama.
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hdrw wrote:Honda Indonesia salah kalau ckd Edix, seharusnya ikut cara Nissan.
Jangan masukin dulu New Odyssey, lebih baik ckd Odyssey lama yang sudah stop produksi di Jepang dan jual seharga serena.
Dari pada ckd Edix lebih baik ckd Odyssey lama.
Hahaha, bagaimana caranya, bung hdrw? Kalau sudah tidak diproduksi, apa yang dikirim untuk dirakit disini? :mrgreen:
Ingat, CKD itu hanya merakit, bukan memproduksi lho.
Line produksi Odyssey lama sudah diubah menjadi Odyssey baru. Seperti halnya Toyota juga tidak bisa terus menjual Soluna untuk jadi taksi, karena line produksinya sudah diubah untuk membuat Vios.
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Sorry, maksud saya seperti serena, diproduksi di Indonesia.
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hdrw wrote:Sorry, maksud saya seperti serena, diproduksi di Indonesia.
Serena diproduksi di Jepang dan hanya dirakit disini. Yang benar2 diproduksi di Indonesia, antara lain Kijang kapsul, Avanza dan Innova. :)
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Saya kirain serena diproduksi disini.
Kalau gitu setelah C25 keluar, nasibnya serena bagaimana? apa diproduksi terus ?
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Good point! Kan Lafesta sebelum akhir tahun sudah diluncurkan. Jadi nasibnya Serena bagaimana dong, kan ngak mungkin di stop produksi, wong baru dilaunching di sini dan iklannya masih gencar???
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observer wrote:Good point! Kan Lafesta sebelum akhir tahun sudah diluncurkan. Jadi nasibnya Serena bagaimana dong, kan ngak mungkin di stop produksi, wong baru dilaunching di sini dan iklannya masih gencar???
Exactly. I've been talking about this for ages, too. We'll have to wait and see..
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Nurut gue yg paling mungkin ditunda peluncuran c25 di indo. maybe bisa 2-3 th ke depan? Krn di ind kan line produksi nissan baru dirubah untuk merakit serena, gak mungkin dong th depan udah musti dirubah lagi untuk merakit c25. Maybe c25 akan masuk dulu mell IU. Krn c25 renc nya baru akan dilaunch akhir th ini, bisa jadi produsennya akan memenuhi permintaan di Jepang, atau kawasan Asia yg lain dulu, baru yg terakhir masuk ke ind.
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Herry wrote:Krn c25 renc nya baru akan dilaunch akhir th ini
Mr. Herry ada spy foto gak?
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Herry wrote:Nurut gue yg paling mungkin ditunda peluncuran c25 di indo. maybe bisa 2-3 th ke depan? Krn di ind kan line produksi nissan baru dirubah untuk merakit serena, gak mungkin dong th depan udah musti dirubah lagi untuk merakit c25. Maybe c25 akan masuk dulu mell IU. Krn c25 renc nya baru akan dilaunch akhir th ini, bisa jadi produsennya akan memenuhi permintaan di Jepang, atau kawasan Asia yg lain dulu, baru yg terakhir masuk ke ind.
Merubah line perakitan tidak begitu sulit, karena hanya proses perakitan dan bukan produksi. Sepertinya banyak yang beranggapan proses CKD itu berarti memproduksi dari nol ya..

Begini bung Herry. Serena kan diproduksi di Jepang dan bukan di Indo. Line produksi C24 pada saatnya akan diubah menjadi C25. Nah, setelah itu, kalaupun mau merakit C24 terus di Indo selama 2-3 tahun ke depan, hanya bisa dengan cara menumpuk inventory part2 C24 sebanyak-banyaknya dari sekarang.

Karena jika line produksi Serena di Jepang sudah membuat C25, dan inventory parts C24 di sini akhirnya habis, apa dong yang mau dikirim ke Indo untuk dirakit disini?

Nah..
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Herry wrote:Krn c25 renc nya baru akan dilaunch akhir th ini
Mr. Herry ada spy foto gak?
Mr. Observer, gue kga punya spy shot nya c25, maybe Mr. Conan bisa bantu kita dapatkan spy shot dari c25? Bagaimana Mr Conan? Anda kan detektif SM hehehe... :P
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conan wrote: Merubah line perakitan tidak begitu sulit, karena hanya proses perakitan dan bukan produksi. Sepertinya banyak yang beranggapan proses CKD itu berarti memproduksi dari nol ya..

Begini bung Herry. Serena kan diproduksi di Jepang dan bukan di Indo. Line produksi C24 pada saatnya akan diubah menjadi C25. Nah, setelah itu, kalaupun mau merakit C24 terus di Indo selama 2-3 tahun ke depan, hanya bisa dengan cara menumpuk inventory part2 C24 sebanyak-banyaknya dari sekarang.

Karena jika line produksi Serena di Jepang sudah membuat C25, dan inventory parts C24 di sini akhirnya habis, apa dong yang mau dikirim ke Indo untuk dirakit disini?

Nah..
Yup, apa yg anda utarakan benar Mr. Conan. Dan menurut berita yg gue baca C24 di Jepang skrg udah ketinggalan jaman dan kurang laku dipasar domestik. Bukan cuman di Jepang dibbrp negara asia spt HK, Taiwan, Singapore jg udah jatuh pamornya dan agak seret penjualannya. Dan mungkin krn stock nya masih ada, c24 itu dibuang ke indo buat ngabisin stock yg ada disana. So nurut feeling gue sembari ngabisin stock mereka mempersiapkan jenis yg lebih baru. Jelas kalau c25 udah keluar Jepang pasti mengutamakan pasar domestik mereka sendiri dulu, baru menjual di negera lain. Nah disini tenggat waktu yg ada (nurut perkiraan gue lho). Jadi kapan c25 bisa di CKD di Ind, mungkin akan tgt seberapa cepat penyerapan pasar Ind thd c24 dan stock yg tersedia di negara asal. Jelas kalo stock sedikit, dan penjualan c24 di Ind bagus, bukan tidak mungkin Nissan Ind akan mendatangkan c25 lebih cepat dari perkiraan gue semula. Gimana nurut pendapat Mr. Conan dan teman2?
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Di Malaysia baru aja diluncurkan C24 facelift yang sama dengan versi kita di sini, menggantikan versi yang pertama keluar tahun 2001.

Well, Mr. Conan, could u get us the spy foto for C25?? :wink:
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As a matter of fact I just got it guys!! :shock:

Spectacular design for the Nissan Serena minivan's replacement, the Nissan Evalia (C26)

The replacement model is coded C26 and not C25, due to its radical changes Nissan feels that they should 'jump' one generation with their internal development coding system.
The replacement for Nissan Serena minivan (C24) will leave the boxy lines of the current model for brave new looks, and by using low-floor technology to its fullest it will offer fantastic headroom for all six passengers on the six captain seat-lay out. It will retain the twin sliding doors from the Serena, but with a twist : the doors will not just slide, they will tilt at an angle for even easier access, and there will be no B-pillars, similar to the recently launched competitor, the Toyota [cencored] minivan. The bodystyle echoes Nissan's new Murano, and the interior styling will take cues from the luxury saloon Fuga, while a new innovative feature is added in the back section of the car : the rear hatch door will fold along with a section of the roof, making luggage loading easier than ever. The new Nissan Evalia (C26) will be launched in September 2005 in Japan, starting from roughly 2.75 million yen for the 2.5 litre-engined version, and 3.25 million yen for the top of the range 3.5 litre V6.
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Oh I'm feeling dizzy already :e-wall:
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Tapi kok harganya jauh diatas C24??? Dan penampilannya beda sama sekali! (in a much more nicer and [cencored] way)

It's easier to believe Lafesta is the successor to C24, than this!!!
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Kawan2, aku mau minta maaf nih. Article about the Evalia/C26 above, err... I made that up :mrgreen:
The Evalia is a Nissan concept car from 2003.

Maaf sekali, karena C25 sangat membuat penasaran, I couldn't resist the temptation..terutama untuk bung Observer aku minta maaf sekali telah membuat Anda dizzy..I won't do it again. Well..except maybe on April 1st? :mrgreen:

Jadi, maaf ya kawan2.. diskusi tentang Serena C25 bisa diteruskan di thread baru tentang MPV Jepang yang dibuat bung Szli. Please go there :)
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Ha ha, very funny :2gunfire:
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Maaf maaf :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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wah tadi saya ketemu lagi untuk yang ke2 kalinya, ternyata saya baru perhatiin bener bahwa mobil ini ternyata dimensinya cukup besar. Bisa dibilang sebesar mazda premacy, dan hyundai matrix....
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