Cari Honda Civic Ferio / Honda City type Z bekas

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menurut ane sih kl dipake buat balap, mending cityZ..
karena dari beratnya cityZ lebih enteng sekitar 100kg dari ferio..
jadi power to weight ratio nya lebih baik..
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numpang nyimak ya oom :ungg:
klo sy lbh prefer ferio.....spt yg sdh d sebutkan d atas, klo dlm keadaan sama2 sehat ky nya ferio lbh mantep nih......... :mrgreen:
apalagi sy demen bgt model nya
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tapi om dog, kalo soal gesit dan bermanuver gila2an seh, ane rasa lebi enak city Z sehh...
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wah.....mank manuver segila gmana yg g ke handel ferio oom DOCH? :ungg:
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gini om dog.... ferio emang scara di atas kertas tenaga nya lebi gede dari city Z... tapi perlu diinget jg, city Z itu body nya cukup enteng, dibawah 1 ton logh... dan lagi body nya city Z itu lebi pendek dari ferio... jadi otomatis kalo utk melakukan manuver2, apalagi pas balapan yah enakan si city Z...
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wooo ic ic.......tp bukannya klo balap d tol perbedaan bobotnya g terlalu pengaruh ya?khan uda d substitusi oleh tenaga yg lbh besar...... :ungg:
trus satu lg yg pengen d tanyain oom........dimensi wheelbase dll yg lbh panjang bukannya jg membantu kestabilan mbl?
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sejauh yg ane tauu sehh... betul skali ente om dog... panjang wheelbase jg mempengaruhi kstabilan... makin panjang jarak wheelbase, makin stabil...tapiii makin mengurangi tingkat kelincahan mobil tsb...
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bro2 sekalian baru lihat2 di google klo cityz udah full vtec yah.. klo ferio katanya masih lom full vtec (masih seprauh2) bener ga sech? Terima Kasih :big_peace:
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maksud nya separuh ?? setau ane malah mereka berdua uda vtec koq bro.... berasa koq lecutan tenaga khas vtec nya di putaran atas... bahkan kalo yg sering ane denger dari montir2 bengkel performance blg, mobil2 honda jadul macam city Z, ferio, cielo, accord lama, itu masi vtec tulen.... boros tapi bertenaga... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Ikut nimbrung yaaa....., mohon koreksinya, maklum newbie.... :ungg:
Klo plan dari TS mau dipakai balapan, no doubt pilih Type Z.
Tarikannya jauh di atas Ferio, karena :
-body lebih enteng
-engine pure VTEC (beda dgn F16 nya Ferio)

Soal kenyamanan, pilih Ferio dong...., kan beda kelas... Sama jika ente naik Soluna sama Corolla lah, nyaman mana coba? hehehe... :mrgreen:

Btw mau dipake turbo? IMHO mendingan cari Mitsu, krn Honda kan spesialisasi N/A....... :big_peace:

Saya pakai Ferio, sutandar...darr....darrrrr....... Dan impression thd performanya, hmmmmm average lah, takut salah ngomong.... :ngacir: ......... :big_peace:
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Hikoza wrote:Ikut nimbrung yaaa....., mohon koreksinya, maklum newbie.... :ungg:
Klo plan dari TS mau dipakai balapan, no doubt pilih Type Z.
Tarikannya jauh di atas Ferio, karena :
-body lebih enteng
-engine pure VTEC (beda dgn F16 nya Ferio)

Soal kenyamanan, pilih Ferio dong...., kan beda kelas... Sama jika ente naik Soluna sama Corolla lah, nyaman mana coba? hehehe... :mrgreen:

Btw mau dipake turbo? IMHO mendingan cari Mitsu, krn Honda kan spesialisasi N/A....... :big_peace:

Saya pakai Ferio, sutandar...darr....darrrrr....... Dan impression thd performanya, hmmmmm average lah, takut salah ngomong.... :ngacir: ......... :big_peace:
om Hikoza, honda kan emang jago di N/A engine. kalo kita mau bikin city atau ferio kenceng, berarti harus menaikkan rasio kompresi. karena dugaan ane, biar bisa ngimbangin turbo, mesin N/A rasio kompresinya harus tinggi dan putaran mesin juga lebih dipercepat. nah, ada gak cara naikin kompresi dan mempercepat putaran mesin? jadi RPM lebih tinggi?
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maskopat wrote:om Hikoza, honda kan emang jago di N/A engine. kalo kita mau bikin city atau ferio kenceng, berarti harus menaikkan rasio kompresi. karena dugaan ane, biar bisa ngimbangin turbo, mesin N/A rasio kompresinya harus tinggi dan putaran mesin juga lebih dipercepat. nah, ada gak cara naikin kompresi dan mempercepat putaran mesin? jadi RPM lebih tinggi?
Ga berani comment saya, Om Kopat... Wong mobil saya sutandar kok...., bejek 120kpj aja udh gemetar.... :upss:
Monggo yang piawai ngoprek saja yang menjawab..... :frm_salut: :mrgreen:
Klo saya pribadi sih jika memang mau ambil Honda, better swap engine daripada pasang turbo.....(kalo saya lho, hehehehe....)
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bro hikoza.. klo mitsu lancer (non evo) biasa sebanding ga yah ama civic ferio/genio klo engine (kondisi standart)?
maunya seh bisa swap pake engine honda type B (b16a atau b16a2) tapi katanya susah cari mesinnya yah? lagian juga mahal katanya. maaf bro2 skalian masih newbie banget neh :big_peace:
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ryuzo wrote:bro hikoza.. klo mitsu lancer (non evo) biasa sebanding ga yah ama civic ferio/genio klo engine (kondisi standart)?
maunya seh bisa swap pake engine honda type B (b16a atau b16a2) tapi katanya susah cari mesinnya yah? lagian juga mahal katanya. maaf bro2 skalian masih newbie banget neh :big_peace:
kalo ngambilnya yang GTI, dijamin, kondisi standar lebih kenceng lancer daripada civic.
kayaknya mesin lancer juga lebih fleksible kalo mau dipasang turbo. cari copotan juga gak susah. banyak banget baca di tabloid atau di forum yang masangin mesin legendaris 4G63T di lancer... beberapa ada yang tembus 500HP.

kalo mau lebih edan lagi, bisa coba maen toyota. pake mesin toyota supra. tenaganya lebih gahar lagi. beberapa tuner bisa settingin tembus 1000HP!!! tapi kurang tahu gimana caranya masukin mesin supra di chassis corolla...

nah, sekarang balapannya untuk apa dulu nih? kalo tenaga mesin sudah lewat 500HP, agak susah bawanya untuk di sirkuit. harus banyak pembenahan di kaki2 dan rem. tapi kalo drag, mungkin lebih simpel..
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rencana buat balap drag.. ama kapan2 cobain di tol2 gitu.. makanya itu konsen ke mesin ama sektor kaki2 :big_peace:
klo soal interior dan modif JDM bagus mana yah? ferio/cityz ama lancer 00/01. Soalnye denger2 part mitsu mahal dan susah yah.. :e-think: Terima Kasih :big_peace:
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Setuju dgn Om Kopat, klo Lancer GTi (4G93) saya pegang ini deh... :frm_tumbright:
Cangkok engine memang lebih mahal Honda drpd Mitsu. Saya ga tau berapa persisnya, kurang-lebih klo Mitsu itu, dulu, 18-20jt-an lah.
Sedangkan Honda kisarannya 20jt-an ke atas (tau deh atasnya sampe mana, hehehe....)
Tentang stock engine banyak kok, Oom..., baik itu 4G63 ataupun keluarga Honda ;)
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Setau ane honda city type Z tinggal di oprek mesinnya ganti head tipe P08 atau apa gitu lupa ane bisa tembus 140hp+ jadi potential bgt nih mobil ntar ane kasih situsnya deh..kalo pasang turbo ga nyaman bro turbo lagnya,selain itu turun daya tahan mesinnya :big_peace:
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Hikoza wrote:Setuju dgn Om Kopat, klo Lancer GTi (4G93) saya pegang ini deh... :frm_tumbright:
Cangkok engine memang lebih mahal Honda drpd Mitsu. Saya ga tau berapa persisnya, kurang-lebih klo Mitsu itu, dulu, 18-20jt-an lah.
Sedangkan Honda kisarannya 20jt-an ke atas (tau deh atasnya sampe mana, hehehe....)
Tentang stock engine banyak kok, Oom..., baik itu 4G63 ataupun keluarga Honda ;)
kalo untuk kaki2, kayaknya kalo kondisi standar mending lancer. gitu juga dengan chassis/body. lancer kayaknya lebih kokoh deh. soalnya mulai generasi CB, body/chassis lancer sama dengan evo. kaki2 mungkin beda. bedanya juga di per dan shock breaker. kebayang aja, body dan chassis lancer masih sanggup untuk mesin 400PS... :frm_tumbright:
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aldy wrote:Setau ane honda city type Z tinggal di oprek mesinnya ganti head tipe P08 atau apa gitu lupa ane bisa tembus 140hp+ jadi potential bgt nih mobil ntar ane kasih situsnya deh..kalo pasang turbo ga nyaman bro turbo lagnya,selain itu turun daya tahan mesinnya :big_peace:
ini enaknya N/A.. gak ada lag.. karena kompresi sudah tinggi dari putaran rendah.

om aldy, ganti head ini ganti lengkap? apakah dengan ganti head ini rasio kompresi jadi lebih tinggi? :e-think:
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wahh bahasan nya uda maen yg berat2 nehh... ane mundur dgn perlahan2 dan menyimak aja dehh di pojokan... scara klas ane masi nubie std dgn modif kecil2 an aja..... biar master2 tuner nya aja yg bahas.... :big_peace: :big_peace:
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maskopat wrote:
aldy wrote:Setau ane honda city type Z tinggal di oprek mesinnya ganti head tipe P08 atau apa gitu lupa ane bisa tembus 140hp+ jadi potential bgt nih mobil ntar ane kasih situsnya deh..kalo pasang turbo ga nyaman bro turbo lagnya,selain itu turun daya tahan mesinnya :big_peace:
ini enaknya N/A.. gak ada lag.. karena kompresi sudah tinggi dari putaran rendah.

om aldy, ganti head ini ganti lengkap? apakah dengan ganti head ini rasio kompresi jadi lebih tinggi? :e-think:
selaen head, kayanya sektor klep2 beserta per nya ada yg di ganti jg deh om... trus piston jg kalo ga salah musti dganti deh... tapi ane ga jlas diganti dgn yg type apa, soalnya waktu itu ane cuman ngobrol enteng2 an doank ama beberapa montir dan tuner...
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Hikoza wrote:Ikut nimbrung yaaa....., mohon koreksinya, maklum newbie.... :ungg:
Klo plan dari TS mau dipakai balapan, no doubt pilih Type Z.
Tarikannya jauh di atas Ferio, karena :
-body lebih enteng
-engine pure VTEC (beda dgn F16 nya Ferio)

Soal kenyamanan, pilih Ferio dong...., kan beda kelas... Sama jika ente naik Soluna sama Corolla lah, nyaman mana coba? hehehe... :mrgreen:

Btw mau dipake turbo? IMHO mendingan cari Mitsu, krn Honda kan spesialisasi N/A....... :big_peace:

Saya pakai Ferio, sutandar...darr....darrrrr....... Dan impression thd performanya, hmmmmm average lah, takut salah ngomong.... :ngacir: ......... :big_peace:
coba pakein unichip atau vtec controller aja bro.... berasa beda nya... tapi emang sehh, sperti saran ane sblom nya, kalo mo urusan gesit, cityZ lharr... uda ane coba dan rasakan beda nya...
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bro2 sekalian jadi klo untuk tunning engine enakan yang mana nih? cityZ/ferio/lancer hehe... :big_peace:
dan sektor2 kaki lebih mudah mana perawatan ama tunningnya?
btw klo bisa minta infonya dunk untuk step2 tunningnya yang dari bagian mana dulu hehe... :big_peace: :big_peace:
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D15B
VTEC
Found in:
1991-1999 Honda Civic VTi EG4 (Japanese Market)
1992-1998 Honda CRX VXi EG1 (Japanese Market)
Displacement : 1493 cm³
Bore and Stroke : 75 mm X 84.5 mm
Rod Length : 137 mm
Compression : 9.3:1
Power : 130 hp (97 kW) @ 5800 rpm & 102 ft·lbf (14.1kg/m) @ 5200 rpm
Redline : 7200 rpm
Fuel Cut : 7411 rpm
Valvetrain : SOHC VTEC
Head Code : P08
Fuel Control : OBD-1 MPFI

http://asia.vtec.net/article/d15b/ nih legend lengkap D15B ntar cara modifnya ane masukin lagi
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Tuh diatas belum ganti header, open air filter dll kira2 bisa tembus lah 140hp+..Kalo masalah kaki2 ane lepas tangan deh he2 :big_peace: oiya kelebihannya city typeZ lainnya di bobotnya yang paling ringan (Berat kosong only 980 kg) dibanding mitsu lancer n ferio (power to weight rationya paling bagus)..So very potential car 200km/h enteng bgt pastinya masalah kestabilan jangan takut cz nih city udah
Depan Independent Mcpherson strut + stabilizer
Belakang Independent Mcpherson strut + stabilizer
.. :big_smoking:

Sebenernya beli mobil buat apaan dulu bro??Drag,street car,or slalom?? :e-think:
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