All new City. revealed! - Part 01

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hmm.. tp knapa msh SOHC yah? apa buat ngejar iritnya? :roll:
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bagus sih, klo Honda ga ngasih harga gila2an mngkn gw masih mikir2 bwt beli tuh mobil..
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iwang wrote:mending vioslah dari yaris.kecil gitu ga keruan.. vios dipake taksi gapapa, berarti awet dan bandel. toh supirnya kan laen, pribadi, bukan supir taksi..haha
ahahaha.. gw jg salah satu yg ga suka yaris... bukannya jelek lhoo, ga suka aja ama bentuknya, aneh... walau livina xr juga ga bs dibilang modis atau keren, cuman gw lebih suka modelnya vina... pa lagi mesinnya... :D
avalone wrote:matic tipe gate agak ribet buat cw2, temen2 gw yg cw aja bilang mendingan model "line" gak ribet, dan praktis...
afaik, gate itu u/ mengurangi kesalahan perpindahan transmisi...
bahaya kan klo lg parkir di gedung tinggi, niatnya D trus bejek gas taunya *gara2 line & ga sengaja salah pindah ke R* malah mundur... bisa jatuh... kasian kan...
makanya skrng produsen mikirin supaya lebih safe, pake tipe gate... tindakan preventif dari produsen yg patut kita acungi jempol... :frm_tumbright:
nescafe wrote:hmm.. tp knapa msh SOHC yah? apa buat ngejar iritnya? :roll:
buat ngejar harganya kali ya...
klo pake DOHC pasti kan lebih mahal lg harga jualnya... :(
MasterzerO wrote:bagus sih, klo Honda ga ngasih harga gila2an mngkn gw masih mikir2 bwt beli tuh mobil..
beda 10jt aja untuk kelas yg sama dari kompetitor gw ga pikir panjang lngsng indent... :)
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Hmmmm...seandainya 1.5 i-vtec dohc mgkn bs lebih maknyuss...tp gak tau deh eefek ke harganya

Eh nes., kalo sohc utk ngejar irit, berarti dohc lebih boros gitu?
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@evolve: hihihihi..ga DOHC udah mahal yah... :big_slap:
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nescafe wrote:hmm.. tp knapa msh SOHC yah? apa buat ngejar iritnya? :roll:
itu yang bikin gw lebih heran lagi bro, mesin SOHC terkenal irit, tapi biasanya tenaganya kurang, tapi di city baru ini, tenaganya meningkat, dibandingin yang dulu kalo gak salah naik 10PS..


MasterzerO wrote:bagus sih, klo Honda ga ngasih harga gila2an mngkn gw masih mikir2 bwt beli tuh mobil..
ya kalo harga kan kembali ke orang masing2 bro, ada yg budgetnya berlebih ya silahkan, kalo yang kurang ya silahkan cari yang lain.. :big_peace:
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avalone wrote:
nescafe wrote:hmm.. tp knapa msh SOHC yah? apa buat ngejar iritnya? :roll:
itu yang bikin gw lebih heran lagi bro, mesin SOHC terkenal irit, tapi biasanya tenaganya kurang, tapi di city baru ini, tenaganya meningkat, dibandingin yang dulu kalo gak salah naik 10PS..

itu knapa harganya dibikin mahal yah? :roll:
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Abu2 wrote: kalo sohc utk ngejar irit, berarti dohc lebih boros gitu?
afaik, DOHC pasti lebih boros ketimbang SOHC, cuman tenaga juga makin mantap...
nescafe wrote:@evolve: hihihihi..ga DOHC udah mahal yah... :big_slap:
ahahaha iya...
walau naksir berat tetep... harus nahan diri... budget rules!! ahahaha... :big_peace:
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evolve wrote:
avalone wrote:matic tipe gate agak ribet buat cw2, temen2 gw yg cw aja bilang mendingan model "line" gak ribet, dan praktis...
afaik, gate itu u/ mengurangi kesalahan perpindahan transmisi...
bahaya kan klo lg parkir di gedung tinggi, niatnya D trus bejek gas taunya *gara2 line & ga sengaja salah pindah ke R* malah mundur... bisa jatuh... kasian kan...
makanya skrng produsen mikirin supaya lebih safe, pake tipe gate... tindakan preventif dari produsen yg patut kita acungi jempol... :frm_tumbright:
Kalo gw bilang sih cuma beda model aja....kalo soal safety sih kayanya yg tipe "line" juga gak bisa dari D ke R tanpa pencet tombol release nya
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evolve wrote:
iwang wrote:mending vioslah dari yaris.kecil gitu ga keruan.. vios dipake taksi gapapa, berarti awet dan bandel. toh supirnya kan laen, pribadi, bukan supir taksi..haha
ahahaha.. gw jg salah satu yg ga suka yaris... bukannya jelek lhoo, ga suka aja ama bentuknya, aneh... walau livina xr juga ga bs dibilang modis atau keren, cuman gw lebih suka modelnya vina... pa lagi mesinnya... :D
avalone wrote:matic tipe gate agak ribet buat cw2, temen2 gw yg cw aja bilang mendingan model "line" gak ribet, dan praktis...
afaik, gate itu u/ mengurangi kesalahan perpindahan transmisi...
bahaya kan klo lg parkir di gedung tinggi, niatnya D trus bejek gas taunya *gara2 line & ga sengaja salah pindah ke R* malah mundur... bisa jatuh... kasian kan...
makanya skrng produsen mikirin supaya lebih safe, pake tipe gate... tindakan preventif dari produsen yg patut kita acungi jempol... :frm_tumbright:
nescafe wrote:hmm.. tp knapa msh SOHC yah? apa buat ngejar iritnya? :roll:
buat ngejar harganya kali ya...
klo pake DOHC pasti kan lebih mahal lg harga jualnya... :(
MasterzerO wrote:bagus sih, klo Honda ga ngasih harga gila2an mngkn gw masih mikir2 bwt beli tuh mobil..
beda 10jt aja untuk kelas yg sama dari kompetitor gw ga pikir panjang lngsng indent... :)


kalo masalah transmisi menurut pendapat pribadi gw, diluar model gate atau segaris, adalah edukasi ke pengguna mobil itu sendiri, kalo mereka baca buku manual dengan seksama tentunya hal-hal yang tidak di inginkan dapat dihindari, sekarang coba gw tanya ke temen2 disini, berap abanyak yang baca buku manual pas lo beli mobil baru??? mikir sendiri kan??? jadi emang buat bro sekalian yang udah ahli dan ngerti mobil gak masalah, tapi buat orang awam, apalagi yang baru pertama kali bawa matic setelah sekian lama bawa manual. think... think again.... :big_smoking:
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drpada ada mobil jatuh lg.. :big_slap:
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DOHC atau SOHC relatif aja, cuma soal breathing/efesiensi volumetrik.
sohc kalo pake variable timing/variable intake tracts jg mayan di rpm atas.
dohc lebih tinggi pumping lossesnya di rpm bawah.
untuk sohc bisa pake dua busi, emisi kurang dan pembakaran lebih bersin (iDsi, M112 merc).
untuk mesin irit2an dalem kota, sohc aja cukup karena driving pake torsi bukan pake hp, kecuali all out high speed high rpm, butuh breathing bagus, pake DOHC.
naekin tenaga bisa macem2 caranya, untuk tau hasil enak /ngganya ga bisa kalo cuma liat hp/ps (lebih buat jualan, orang seneng pamer mobilnya 180hp misalnya). kadang hp naek torsinya kacau balau, jadi screamer, peaky, kan percuma. turun hp tapi kurva torsi membaik, drivability membaik.
kalo mau coba, jalan di gigi 3, coasting di 1200rpm, trus coba gas pol, liat gimana cepet gak naek ke redlinenya.hehe
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nah.. mas abu2.. dijawab tuh sama yg ngerti :D :D
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nescafe wrote:
avalone wrote:
nescafe wrote:hmm.. tp knapa msh SOHC yah? apa buat ngejar iritnya? :roll:
itu yang bikin gw lebih heran lagi bro, mesin SOHC terkenal irit, tapi biasanya tenaganya kurang, tapi di city baru ini, tenaganya meningkat, dibandingin yang dulu kalo gak salah naik 10PS..

itu knapa harganya dibikin mahal yah? :roll:
yah namanya teknologi bro, what u spend is what u get, sama aja kayak mau beli Handphoe, lo mau hp yang ada gps nya, bisa push email, ada office nya, bisa video call tapi kan harganya juga beda sama hp yang cuma sms sama telpon doank...
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nah.. mas abu2.. dijawab tuh sama yg ngerti :D :D
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avalone wrote:
nescafe wrote:hmm.. tp knapa msh SOHC yah? apa buat ngejar iritnya? :roll:
itu yang bikin gw lebih heran lagi bro, mesin SOHC terkenal irit, tapi biasanya tenaganya kurang, tapi di city baru ini, tenaganya meningkat, dibandingin yang dulu kalo gak salah naik 10PS..


MasterzerO wrote:bagus sih, klo Honda ga ngasih harga gila2an mngkn gw masih mikir2 bwt beli tuh mobil..
ya kalo harga kan kembali ke orang masing2 bro, ada yg budgetnya berlebih ya silahkan, kalo yang kurang ya silahkan cari yang lain.. :big_peace:
Klo budget berlebih, ambil altis aja deh.. Lbh mewah dalemnya.. :big_peace:
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nah.. mas abu2.. dijawab tuh sama yg ngerti :D :D
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nah.. mas abu2.. dijawab tuh sama yg ngerti :D :D
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ngomong2 altis, sekarang kenapa mirip2 vios ya?? agak bingung kalo liat di jalan antara vios atau altis..
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avalone wrote:
nescafe wrote: itu yang bikin gw lebih heran lagi bro, mesin SOHC terkenal irit, tapi biasanya tenaganya kurang, tapi di city baru ini, tenaganya meningkat, dibandingin yang dulu kalo gak salah naik 10PS..itu knapa harganya dibikin mahal yah? :roll:
yah namanya teknologi bro, what u spend is what u get, sama aja kayak mau beli Handphoe, lo mau hp yang ada gps nya, bisa push email, ada office nya, bisa video call tapi kan harganya juga beda sama hp yang cuma sms sama telpon doank...
klo ada HP dengan fitur yg sama cuman beda disain dan merk doank (semisal Nokia & Sony Ericsson), gw pasti ambil yg plng murahlah... dan ini emang kejadian beneran, rata2 Nokia vs SE, fitur 11-12, harga beda 10-20%, gw ambil SE yg lebih murah... bagi gw lebih value for money... (bagi mereka yg ambil nokia juga gpp lhoo, namanya juga pilihan :D)
apalagi klo merk "X" ngasih cuman buat nelopn+sms lebih mahal dari merk "Y" yg udah bs video call, mp3 dll... jelas2 gw ambil merk "Y"-lah... :big_slap:
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kalo gw bilang setiap calon pembeli pasti sesuaikan budget.
yg budget nya berlebih yah mungkin ambil city, yg lebih kecil yah ambil vios, gitu.
nah sebenarnya vios dan baleno ini kondisi yg diuntungkan, karena jadi berkurang 1 pemain utama di range harganya.
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nescafe wrote:nah.. mas abu2.. dijawab tuh sama yg ngerti :D :D
Ness, ngejar posting y?? Tuh post sampe brapa biji?? :mrgreen:
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kalo xenia1.0 tetep cepet ke redline loh biarpun torsinya mungil.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
iwang wrote: kalo mau coba, jalan di gigi 3, coasting di 1200rpm, trus coba gas pol, liat gimana cepet gak naek ke redlinenya.hehe
sama2 multivalves, yg rentang kurva torsinya (bisa dibuat) lebih luas secara umum itu mesin dohc daripada sohc...
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@ Nes : iya iya dah gw baca....bilanginnnya ampe 7 kali gitu... :e-naughty:
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bro abu2 awam?hahahahahah:p

terus terang 10hp sih ga gt kerasa di jalan...we drive mostly on torque...