Toyota Camry Versi Amerika jadi Taksi Silver Bird!

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jalu wrote:
BADAK wrote:
doq wrote:yup.....layout penggerak ga ada hubungan nya sama GC, dan sampai saat ini masih banyak sedan berpenggerak rwd..............walau sekarang umum nya hanya digunakan pada sedan2 kelas atas.
mungkin bener kaya yg sering dibilang oom FM, rwd=fun to drive...............ane sih ga ngerti fun nya dimana, wong di APV sih ga ada fun-fun nya :big_weee:


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Masak sih om layout penggerak gak ada hubungannya dgn GC? Coba diliat dikolong mbl RWD, pst ada rumah gardan & gear pinion. Untuk mbl MPV rumah gardan ato istilahnya case diff pst nongol besar, yg otomatis GC hrs tinggi. Kalo GC rendah tentu case diff ini akan sering membentur tanah. Kalo sedan mcm mercy pake RWD, maka kemungkinannya mengorbankan interior kabin (ada tonjolan) atau menggunakan gardan yg kecil.
Kalo mmg layout sistem penggerak gak ada hub nya dgn GC, coba bisa gak buat MPV beban mcm kijang panther seceper sedan n dipake sehari2? :D
maaf sotoy ya dak...
GC itu merupakan salah satu hasil dr rancangan chassis kendaraan dan power train (sistem penggerak) itu bisa disesuaikan kok dng rancangan sasis itu, buktinya :

RWD : dr truk, SUV, MPV sampe sedan ada yg RWD
FWD : dr sedan, mpv, crossover sampe CUV/SUV ada yg FWD

dr situ bisa kita liat berbagai macam jenis kendaraan dng GC variatif namun sistem penggerak ternyata bisa sama.

Memang benar konsekuensi sedan RWD adalah adanya benjolan2 didalem kabin yg menjadi ruang dr sistem girbok, kopel dan gardannya, dan ini memang menyita space kabin.

rancangan umum untuk sedan RWD/GC rendah adalah suspensi belakang independen, dimana kopel & gardan (diff housing) tetap pada posisi statis dan menggunakan shaft model CV joint seperti FWD sehingga disaat suspensi "bermain", hanya arm2 suspensi dan CV jointnya saja yg bergerak. Dengan kondisi begini maka benjolan2 didalem kabin bs dibikin lbh efisien krn kopel dan gardan relatif tetap statis pada posisinya. Lain halnya jika model suspensi belakangnya live axle dng gardan banjo type...ini memang butuh ruang yg luas krn gardan dan kopel selalu naik turun bersama dng gerakan suspensi.

skrg bisakah kijang atau panther dibikin seceper sedan...? jawabannya bisa kalo body & sasis/ladder framenya dirombak, tapi kalo tetap mengandalkan bentuk sasis aslinya susah. alasannya : titik2 pivot dr arm2 suspensi depan dan "lengkungan" ladder frame yg ada diatas gardan belakang itu dr pabrikannya memang sudah dirancang untuk GC std kijang/panther tsb.

contoh lain silahkan cek sasis truk colt diesel ente dak, sasis/ladder framenya bener2 lurus dr depan sampe belakang....makanya seberat2nya muatan truk gak pernah sampe bisa ceper mampus meski pernya udah mentok stopper, lain hal kalo bagian sasis yg ada diatas diatas beam axle depan dan gardan belakangnya itu dibikin lengkungan, itu akan bisa lebih ceper.

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Kijangnya buat jln sehari2 ato cmn buat event?
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mbl apapun dng GC serendah itu susah kalo buat dipake sehari2..
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jalu wrote:- CUT -

rancangan umum untuk sedan RWD/GC rendah adalah suspensi belakang independen, dimana kopel & gardan (diff housing) tetap pada posisi statis dan menggunakan shaft model CV joint seperti FWD sehingga disaat suspensi "bermain", hanya arm2 suspensi dan CV jointnya saja yg bergerak. Dengan kondisi begini maka benjolan2 didalem kabin bs dibikin lbh efisien krn kopel dan gardan relatif tetap statis pada posisinya. Lain halnya jika model suspensi belakangnya live axle dng gardan banjo type...ini memang butuh ruang yg luas krn gardan dan kopel selalu naik turun bersama dng gerakan suspensi.

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ilhami wrote:http://www.toyota.co.id/product/?page=p ... odel=Camry
Camry 2.4G AT:
panjang 4825
lebar 1820
tinggi 1470
wheel base 2775

http://www.mercedes-benz.co.id/content/ ... _data.html
mercedes C200
panjang 4581
lebar 1770
wheelbase 2760
tinggi 1444

memang lebih besar camry, beda kira-kira 25 cm
kang, data yg lu kasih mang camry usdm punya?
itu bukanya jdm punya / yg beredar di indonesia?
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And45 wrote:
ilhami wrote:http://www.toyota.co.id/product/?page=p ... odel=Camry
Camry 2.4G AT:
panjang 4825
lebar 1820
tinggi 1470
wheel base 2775

http://www.mercedes-benz.co.id/content/ ... _data.html
mercedes C200
panjang 4581
lebar 1770
wheelbase 2760
tinggi 1444

memang lebih besar camry, beda kira-kira 25 cm
kang, data yg lu kasih mang camry usdm punya?
itu bukanya jdm punya / yg beredar di indonesia?
data mercynya juga gak akurat, itu adalah data W204 sedangkan taxi blue bird itu W203
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silakan kalo di koreksi kalo nggak akurat.
atau kita bawa meteran aja ke pool bluebird meneer... :ngacir:
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Pak kopat: itu gardannya SL ente ya? :e-think:
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hmm...paking di cover gardannya udah mrembes oli.... :e-think:
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maksute mau menunjukken diff mobil rwd yang full independent suspension memiliki ukuran yang kecil.
dari bimmer E30 dah kecil euy...
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maskopat wrote:maksute mau menunjukken diff mobil rwd yang full independent suspension memiliki ukuran yang kecil.
dari bimmer E30 dah kecil euy...
memang wajar kalo ukurannya bs dibikin kecil,
krn sedan bukan mbl beban, jadi ukuran fisik roda giginya gak perlu gede2...

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Swer baru tau gardan SL uda independen ala Datsun jadul SSS. DX masih rigid axle y om Kopat?
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masa si uda independen?? bukannya sama dgn L300 bengsin???
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Dak...

saloon 'Benz' dengan RWD nya itu sudah merupakan identitas dan ciri khas jajaran sedan 'Benz' dari jaman baheula sampai sekarang...
apa kata penggemar sejati saloon 'Benz' kalo format penggeraknya diganti dengan FWD?
IMHO kalo sampai itu terjadi maka identitas dan ciri khas sedan merc akan hilang di mata penggemar sejatinya :big_peace:

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Nightster Guy wrote:Swer baru tau gardan SL uda independen ala Datsun jadul SSS. DX masih rigid axle y om Kopat?
kagak om NG... SL ane masih rigid.. axlenya lumayan gede.... :mky_01:
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Setahu saya sih gardan belakang jarang banget mentok, karena terlindung roda kanan kiri.

Yang sering mentok itu bagian tengah mobil, sama aja mau FWD atau RWD bisa mentok di situ. Nah kalau offroad ini yg sering bikin propeler shaft putus.
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asudarsono wrote:Setahu saya sih gardan belakang jarang banget mentok, karena terlindung roda kanan kiri.

Yang sering mentok itu bagian tengah mobil, sama aja mau FWD atau RWD bisa mentok di situ. Nah kalau offroad ini yg sering bikin propeler shaft putus.
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Nightster Guy wrote:Uda cape juga mo protes, om Gandi....

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Wah.. ntar coba cek kolong apanja ane ahh....
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apanja ane gardan belakangnya sehat2 aja tu..... padahal uda 6 taun lebih......
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