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Turboman wrote:
mintblue wrote:Salam kenal Rekan2 SM,

Saya lg "puyeng" nih habis terima estimasi biaya servis dari salah satu bengkel resmi Toyota.

Awal masalahnya rem Toyota Innova G th 2007 saya agak nge-loss. Pedal rem ringan banget saat direm. Sampai Jumat (2/10) kemaren, supir saya bawa mobil itu. Eh, di salah satu perempatan, pas si supir mau ngejalanin lagi mobilnya, rem di roda depan terus mengunci. Untung setelah berhasil minggir, mobil didongkrak, roda depan dilepas, rem dibersihin pakai lap, habis itu bisa jalan lagi.
Langsung dibawa ke Be-Res Toyota, diperiksa sama Svc Advisor, trus dibilang mesti nginep.
Garansi Ipah berlaku sampe 3 tahun, jadi kalau ada kerusakan dlm kurun waktu tsb apalagi kerusakan bukan oleh kesalahan user harusnya diganti scr GRATIS.

Next time ke A2K Kalimalang aja, ketemu pak Adhi.
secara waktunya 3 th, tp secara km nya berapa ya bro..... ane lupa apakah 50 ribu atau 100 ribu km...... klo 100 ribu km... bisa klaim, tp klo 50 ribu, nampaknya dah lewat garansi......
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mandala1 wrote:Hmmm........aneh2 emang kasus jaman sekarang,,
padahal seinget ane dulu waktu jaman kakek masih pake mobil2 tuwir, yg namanya minyak rem ajah kalo darurat bisa dicampur pake air teh yg kentel, dan sistem pengereman pun masih bisa berjalan dgn baik (setidaknya selamat sampe dirumah buat nguras lagi),,
jaman sekarang kecampur DOT beda ajah mobil udah ngambek :mrgreen: apa skr makin banyak orang pada kepinteran yah? :e-think: ....... :ngacir: :ngacir:
jangan salah dal..... mbl2 jadul sistim pengeremannya khan msh sederhana.... selain itu kecepatan mblnya juga relatip ga bisa sekenceng mbl2 sekarang pada umumnya...... nah, krn ga bisa kenceng, mk kerjanya rem relatif lbh ringan, jadi belum butuh sesuatu yg gimanaaa gituuu....... :upss:
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ehh...colt t120 jadul remnya udah pake booster blm ? :e-think:
jangan2 teh sariwangi bisa dipake hanya untuk rem yang blm pake booster ? :roll:
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prasaan inopa sering amat kasusnye, yg boyo di tanjakkanlah, skrg yg rem ngeloss
klow liat gini, kurang pantes ama hrganye yg lg hot dibicarain..

Bos mitblue

Ane bilang coba nt bawa ke bgkel umum ajeh yg specialis rem. Inopa doang mah banyak. Dealer pan menag garansi kerjaan ajeh, bengkel umum juge berani.
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jalu wrote:ehh...colt t120 jadul remnya udah pake booster blm ? :e-think:
jangan2 teh sariwangi bisa dipake hanya untuk rem yang blm pake booster ? :roll:
Yg awal2 thn '73 belom om tapi yg generasi akhir '78 keatas udah pake,, :)
cruizer wrote:prasaan inopa sering amat kasusnye, yg boyo di tanjakkanlah, skrg yg rem ngeloss
klow liat gini, kurang pantes ama hrganye yg lg hot dibicarain..
mungkin karena ini mobil yg paling banyak dipake sama orang2 coy, jadi kedengerannya ada aja yg di komplen, n lagi kebiasaan orang kita yg diinget pasti yg buruk2nya aja, yg bagus nya malah jarang diinget :)
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mandala1 wrote:
jalu wrote:ehh...colt t120 jadul remnya udah pake booster blm ? :e-think:
jangan2 teh sariwangi bisa dipake hanya untuk rem yang blm pake booster ? :roll:
Yg awal2 thn '73 belom om tapi yg generasi akhir '78 keatas udah pake,, :)
cruizer wrote:prasaan inopa sering amat kasusnye, yg boyo di tanjakkanlah, skrg yg rem ngeloss
klow liat gini, kurang pantes ama hrganye yg lg hot dibicarain..
mungkin karena ini mobil yg paling banyak dipake sama orang2 coy, jadi kedengerannya ada aja yg di komplen, n lagi kebiasaan orang kita yg diinget pasti yg buruk2nya aja, yg bagus nya malah jarang diinget :)
om dal, kalo kijang sejak kapan pake booster?

ah, ipah mah baru ini ane denger kasusnya... problem biasa ipah mah boros, boyo, mahal... yang laen mah, gak lah...
boros mah juga 11 12 dengan serena.. bedanya serena lebih enak akselerasinya... makanya reletif boyo dibanding MPV sekelasnya.
mahal, relatif lah.. dah pernah kita ributin....

kasus rem ini, nanti kita tunggu TS aja penjelasannya...

tapi ane pernah denger aja showroom yang nakal.. biasanya kan mobil2 toyota baru pake aki GS.. nah, kemarin temen ane beli vios baru, kurang dari 8 bulan ganti aki. dan ternyata aki yang rusak itu bukan GS. ane juga gak perhatiin sih ntuh mobil sampe ke dalem2nya..
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Kalo kijang sih sepertinya mulai dari seri 4K/KF20 thn 83/84'an deh udah pake booster,, hehehe........innova boyo? coba dulu deh ane punya ipah, baru boleh komen lagi..... :e-whistle: :upss:
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mandala1 wrote:Kalo kijang sih sepertinya mulai dari seri 4K/KF20 thn 83/84'an deh udah pake booster,, hehehe........innova boyo? coba dulu deh ane punya ipah, baru boleh komen lagi..... :e-whistle: :upss:
hm.. colt t dari tahun 78, kijang dari tahun 83 yah.. thanks infonya om... :frm_tumbright: :frm_tumbright:

ipah kan dibandingin mobil sejenisnya... serena... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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btw, innova bisa ga si di modif dikasi disbrek tambahan untuk belakang? apa bakal repot ya??
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ini jadinya gimana ya? udah 2 minggu ceritanya... :e-think: :e-think:
semoga beres yah... dan gak keluar uang banyak.. :e-pray: :e-pray:
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siinoi wrote:btw, innova bisa ga si di modif dikasi disbrek tambahan untuk belakang? apa bakal repot ya??
sebaiknya jangan, krn ga mudah merubah dari rem tromol ke disc brake........ selain itu.... seandainya bisa pun, biayanya relatip mahal.... n yg paling pusing adalah faktor keamanannya....... jadi beda dg keluaran pabrik....... klo dari pabriknya dah disc brake, biasanya pabrik dah design sedemikian rupa, shg rem bisa bekerja dg baik..............
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sjamsul wrote:
siinoi wrote:btw, innova bisa ga si di modif dikasi disbrek tambahan untuk belakang? apa bakal repot ya??
sebaiknya jangan, krn ga mudah merubah dari rem tromol ke disc brake........ selain itu.... seandainya bisa pun, biayanya relatip mahal.... n yg paling pusing adalah faktor keamanannya....... jadi beda dg keluaran pabrik....... klo dari pabriknya dah disc brake, biasanya pabrik dah design sedemikian rupa, shg rem bisa bekerja dg baik..............
Betuuuulll.......bisa sih bisa.....tapi repot nya itu loh yg ga tahan :mrgreen: belum lagi performa pengeremannya yg belum tentu menjamin lebih pakem dari sebelumnya......
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sjamsul wrote:
siinoi wrote:btw, innova bisa ga si di modif dikasi disbrek tambahan untuk belakang? apa bakal repot ya??
sebaiknya jangan, krn ga mudah merubah dari rem tromol ke disc brake........ selain itu.... seandainya bisa pun, biayanya relatip mahal.... n yg paling pusing adalah faktor keamanannya....... jadi beda dg keluaran pabrik....... klo dari pabriknya dah disc brake, biasanya pabrik dah design sedemikian rupa, shg rem bisa bekerja dg baik..............
emang diskbrek yang dipasang bukan buatan pabrik ya? trus buat di mana ya?? :e-think: :e-think:







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maskopat wrote:
sjamsul wrote:
siinoi wrote:btw, innova bisa ga si di modif dikasi disbrek tambahan untuk belakang? apa bakal repot ya??
sebaiknya jangan, krn ga mudah merubah dari rem tromol ke disc brake........ selain itu.... seandainya bisa pun, biayanya relatip mahal.... n yg paling pusing adalah faktor keamanannya....... jadi beda dg keluaran pabrik....... klo dari pabriknya dah disc brake, biasanya pabrik dah design sedemikian rupa, shg rem bisa bekerja dg baik..............
emang diskbrek yang dipasang bukan buatan pabrik ya? trus buat di mana ya?? :e-think: :e-think:







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buatan pengrajin kayaknya.................. :ngacir: :ngacir:
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10 to 15 years." ~ Giorgetto Giugiaro


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jalu wrote:buatan pengrajin kayaknya.................. :ngacir: :ngacir:
klo pengmales dah pasti ga jadi2..... krn males bikinnye................ :upss: .... :ngacir: .....
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jalu wrote:buatan pengrajin kayaknya.................. :ngacir: :ngacir:
klo pengmales dah pasti ga jadi2..... krn males bikinnye................ :upss: .... :ngacir: .....
bukannya oleh tukang patri? yang kalo keliling perumahan selalu teriak.. patribu.. patribu. empatribu... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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maskopat wrote:
sjamsul wrote:
jalu wrote:buatan pengrajin kayaknya.................. :ngacir: :ngacir:
klo pengmales dah pasti ga jadi2..... krn males bikinnye................ :upss: .... :ngacir: .....
bukannya oleh tukang patri? yang kalo keliling perumahan selalu teriak.. patribu.. patribu. empatribu... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
sekarang dah turun lohhh........ teriakannya menjadi garibu... garibu..... alias tiga rebu............... :upss: ...
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pengrajin salah..tukang patri salah...ya udah bikinnya ke pemahat aja sono............. :ngacir:
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Weeeeks.........ancur dah tret nya gara2 ooters :mrgreen:

Sebetulnya sih kalo mau eksperimen ubah brake drum jadi disc brake ga rumit2 amat, bisa langsung konsultasi'in ke bengkel yg biasa modif ginian,, hardtop tua banyak tuh yg di rubah ke disc, ga tau deh maksudnya.....buat safety atau cuma buat gaya :D
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mandala1 wrote:Weeeeks.........ancur dah tret nya gara2 ooters :mrgreen:

Sebetulnya sih kalo mau eksperimen ubah brake drum jadi disc brake ga rumit2 amat, bisa langsung konsultasi'in ke bengkel yg biasa modif ginian,, hardtop tua banyak tuh yg di rubah ke disc, ga tau deh maksudnya.....buat safety atau cuma buat gaya :D
tau nih.... gara2 si jalu juga sihhhh............... :upss: ....

bukan buat gaya den, tp buat keren2an aja gituuuuu................. :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: ......
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sjamsul wrote:bukan buat gaya den, tp buat keren2an aja gituuuuu................. :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: ......
gaya sih...dimodif jadi rem cakram 4 roda....tapi waktu berhentinya pake jangkar................................ :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Kalo yg begini baru gaya........ :frm_tumbright:
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mandala1 wrote:
sjamsul wrote:
siinoi wrote:btw, innova bisa ga si di modif dikasi disbrek tambahan untuk belakang? apa bakal repot ya??
sebaiknya jangan, krn ga mudah merubah dari rem tromol ke disc brake........ selain itu.... seandainya bisa pun, biayanya relatip mahal.... n yg paling pusing adalah faktor keamanannya....... jadi beda dg keluaran pabrik....... klo dari pabriknya dah disc brake, biasanya pabrik dah design sedemikian rupa, shg rem bisa bekerja dg baik..............
Betuuuulll.......bisa sih bisa.....tapi repot nya itu loh yg ga tahan :mrgreen: belum lagi performa pengeremannya yg belum tentu menjamin lebih pakem dari sebelumnya......
secara teori, justru rem tromol lebih pakem/punya daya stop lebih kuat daripada rem cakram, cmiiw

ini dikarenakan bidang geseknya lebih besar dan luas, itulah (mungkin) salah satu penyebab kendaraan berat masih tetep pake rem tromol.

saya blom pernah lihat trailer pake rem cakram :e-think:


keunggulan rem cakram, dia cepet buang panas dan ampas kampas/kotoran, jadi performanya lebih stabil

beda dengan rem tromol yg karena tertutup, kotoran dan panas susah lepas, jadi lama lama mempengaruhi performa pengereman jika sudah terlalu panas, terutama untuk driver penganut paham GPRP (Gas Poll Rem Poll) :mrgreen:

yg menggabungkan sistem pengereman diatas, mungkin kereta api ya? secara teori, dia bekerja model tromol, tapi kampas diluar dan langsung tekan roda, jadi mirip cara kerja rem cakram juga

bener ga ya pemikiran saya diatas? :e-think:
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mandala1 wrote:Kalo yg begini baru gaya........ :frm_tumbright:

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gaya apa bahaya.....mereknya aja endless (tiada akhir)....berarti bablas terusss...... :upss:
mendingan merek brembo (bisa ngerem loh booooooo' :mrgreen: )






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10 to 15 years." ~ Giorgetto Giugiaro


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