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semua gara2 pejabatnya org2 yg serakah...padahal kalo sama2 mau membangun, turun2an nya lebih melebar yg makmurnya.
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di indo yg murah itu harga diri untuk sebagian orang dengan human traffickingnya, dan para PRT2nya yg diekspor ke beberapa negara tetangga dan Timteng :big_dunno:
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biasa sih itu karena mereka menembel harga yg jauh lebih tinggi dari nilainya dan karena terlalu tinggi dan tidak ada yg mau, makanya pas butuh, mereka obral. makanya itu dia sepertinya harganya murah padahal ga sepenuhnya seperti yg banyak org iba2kan.
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benar2 beri tepuk tangan buat pemerintah
udah bbm naik,
sekarang trend kasus pollycarpus

lama2 capek nyalahin pemerintahan SBY mulu
kesalahan PDI-P yg dulu2 kan kambing hitamnya juga pemerintahan sebelumnya

kok ga belajar dari kesalahan?
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karenaa seluruhnya belum bersih jadi aji mumpung masih baru, buru2 dibebasin biar nanti kalo udah ketat kan ga ketelatan.
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Jadi, trit ttg kereta api dan kommuter nya bagaimana..?

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jarak dekat masih murah kok kereta api... 1500-5000?
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Murah dan semakin baik kok.
Berkat subsidi silang dari kereta jarak jauh. Lagipula kereta jarak jauh juga sudah makin pesat kemajuannya

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gua juga kaget, kereta apinya jaid bagus gitu,
temen juga ketawa dan ga percaya gitu sama kualitas dan murahnya kereta jarak dekat
udah mirip banget tuh sama jepang punya
bedanya kalau yg jepang punya full iklan dimana mana
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Semua pasti butuh dana.. first thing first..

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VanzMatic wrote:Murah dan semakin baik kok.
Berkat subsidi silang dari kereta jarak jauh. Lagipula kereta jarak jauh juga sudah makin pesat kemajuannya

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VanzMatic wrote:Murah dan semakin baik kok.
Berkat subsidi silang dari kereta jarak jauh. Lagipula kereta jarak jauh juga sudah makin pesat kemajuannya

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gua juga kaget, kereta apinya jaid bagus gitu,
temen juga ketawa dan ga percaya gitu sama kualitas dan murahnya kereta jarak dekat
udah mirip banget tuh sama jepang punya
bedanya kalau yg jepang punya full iklan dimana mana
wahahaha kereta pas rush hour tuh, pernah sekali naik pas bukannya jam rush hour di "Tokyu Den-En-Toshi line", Express Service Shibuya - Chuo-Rinkan..kalo naik yang Local Service hampir dijamin dapet yang siap masuk junkyard :big_biglaugh:

paling suka kalo dapet kereta yang iklannya dari TV, seger2 iklannya :ngacir:

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haristk7 wrote: wahahaha kereta pas rush hour tuh, pernah sekali naik pas bukannya jam rush hour di "Tokyu Den-En-Toshi line", Express Service Shibuya - Chuo-Rinkan..kalo naik yang Local Service hampir dijamin dapet yang siap masuk junkyard :big_biglaugh:

ayoo mana trid keretanya...tokkyu densha wa ikimasu.. :ngacir:
om haristk tinggal di japan ya, ikut beladiri di sana jg??? hehe, foto2nya upload klo ad om
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liep wrote:
haristk7 wrote: wahahaha kereta pas rush hour tuh, pernah sekali naik pas bukannya jam rush hour di "Tokyu Den-En-Toshi line", Express Service Shibuya - Chuo-Rinkan..kalo naik yang Local Service hampir dijamin dapet yang siap masuk junkyard :big_biglaugh:

ayoo mana trid keretanya...tokkyu densha wa ikimasu.. :ngacir:
om haristk tinggal di japan ya, ikut beladiri di sana jg??? hehe, foto2nya upload klo ad om
iya kebetulan saya ada kesempatan bisa tinggal di jepang, gak ikut bela diri hahaha

foto2nya nanti saya upload beberapa ya, saya sortir dulu..tapi gak ada foto dalam gerbong, saya gak berani macem2 di dalam gerbong..soalnya bisa dilihatin seisi gerbong kalo saya ambil pict/angkat telpon :big_biglaugh:

saya bikinin deh tridnya..gatel juga..
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wah trims om, ane demen dg budaya sana, pingin jg klo ad rejeki kesana, ad festival sumo dll, keren...
dtunggu tritnya om haristk...trims

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haristk7 wrote: wahahaha kereta pas rush hour tuh, pernah sekali naik pas bukannya jam rush hour di "Tokyu Den-En-Toshi line", Express Service Shibuya - Chuo-Rinkan..kalo naik yang Local Service hampir dijamin dapet yang siap masuk junkyard :big_biglaugh:

ayoo mana trid keretanya...tokkyu densha wa ikimasu.. :ngacir:
om haristk tinggal di japan ya, ikut beladiri di sana jg??? hehe, foto2nya upload klo ad om
iya kebetulan saya ada kesempatan bisa tinggal di jepang, gak ikut bela diri hahaha

foto2nya nanti saya upload beberapa ya, saya sortir dulu..tapi gak ada foto dalam gerbong, saya gak berani macem2 di dalam gerbong..soalnya bisa dilihatin seisi gerbong kalo saya ambil pict/angkat telpon :big_biglaugh:

saya bikinin deh tridnya..gatel juga..
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haristk7 wrote:
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foto2nya nanti saya upload beberapa ya, saya sortir dulu..tapi gak ada foto dalam gerbong, saya gak berani macem2 di dalam gerbong..soalnya bisa dilihatin seisi gerbong kalo saya ambil pict/angkat telpon :big_biglaugh:

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om, emang kenapa ya kl angkat hp/foto di dalam kereta bisa diliatin sama seisi gerbong?
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bivanos88 wrote:
haristk7 wrote:
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foto2nya nanti saya upload beberapa ya, saya sortir dulu..tapi gak ada foto dalam gerbong, saya gak berani macem2 di dalam gerbong..soalnya bisa dilihatin seisi gerbong kalo saya ambil pict/angkat telpon :big_biglaugh:

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om, emang kenapa ya kl angkat hp/foto di dalam kereta bisa diliatin sama seisi gerbong?
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kemarin harga bensin regular di pompa bensin costco daerah Houston, Texas, $2.199 / gallon.
dengan kurs hari ini $1 = Rp 12.350, jadi sekitar Rp 27.150/ gallon
(1 us gallon = 3.78 liter), atau per liternya sekitar Rp 7.185/ liter.

Dibandingkan dengan harga bensin premium (yang diSUBSIDI) di pompa bensin Pertamina di Jakarta Rp 8.500/ liter,
Pertamax (non SUBSIDI) Rp 9.950/ liter.

Hmm yang menyubsidi dan disubsidi siapa kalau begini?
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Salvanost wrote:Pulsa mahal
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Bensin mahal
Transportasi umum mahal
Makanan mahal
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Pendidikan mahal
Air minum aja makin mahal

Apa sih ga ga mahal?
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boed2 wrote:kemarin harga bensin regular di pompa bensin costco daerah Houston, Texas, $2.199 / gallon.
dengan kurs hari ini $1 = Rp 12.350, jadi sekitar Rp 27.150/ gallon
(1 us gallon = 3.78 liter), atau per liternya sekitar Rp 7.185/ liter.

Dibandingkan dengan harga bensin premium (yang diSUBSIDI) di pompa bensin Pertamina di Jakarta Rp 8.500/ liter,
Pertamax (non SUBSIDI) Rp 9.950/ liter.

Hmm yang menyubsidi dan disubsidi siapa kalau begini?
Ya itu om, nunggu laporan transparansi biaya bbm, ada kemungkinan kinerja pertamina ancur.
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QnetiC wrote:
boed2 wrote:kemarin harga bensin regular di pompa bensin costco daerah Houston, Texas, $2.199 / gallon.
dengan kurs hari ini $1 = Rp 12.350, jadi sekitar Rp 27.150/ gallon
(1 us gallon = 3.78 liter), atau per liternya sekitar Rp 7.185/ liter.

Dibandingkan dengan harga bensin premium (yang diSUBSIDI) di pompa bensin Pertamina di Jakarta Rp 8.500/ liter,
Pertamax (non SUBSIDI) Rp 9.950/ liter.

Hmm yang menyubsidi dan disubsidi siapa kalau begini?
Ya itu om, nunggu laporan transparansi biaya bbm, ada kemungkinan kinerja pertamina ancur.
dimalay Ron 95 per 1 des dicabut subsidinya. skrg harga di 8.000/ltr RON 97 rp 8.800/ltr bandingkan dgn yg diindo :big_chicken:
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yah bgitulah kbijakan nya si kurus.... ribet dan agak aneh.... masi tahapan pencitraan kali...

mendingan terapin aj aturan yg lebi simple... mobil pelat hitam, pelat merah wajib non subsidi, pelat kuning dpt premios harga subsidi..mobil2 angkutan barang pelat hitam, ada mekanisme (bsa brupa kupon atau jatah per minggu) utk dapetin bbm subsidi terbatas... ribet tp at least bkin rada susah penyelewengan bbm subsidi ini.... beress.... persoalan takut ntuh pelat kuning atau angkutan malah jadi jualan bensin eceran, yaelah, brapa banyak sehh pengguna mobil pribadi mau beli bensin literan tuang sebtol2 tiap kali ngisi bbm...

atau kalo doi doyan make kartu2 ini itu... nahh bkin lah kartu jatah bensin utk pihak2 yg tertentu... trus harga non subsidi di lepas ke harga pasar dan di update tiap ari...
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DOHC wrote:yah bgitulah kbijakan nya si kurus.... ribet dan agak aneh.... masi tahapan pencitraan kali...

mendingan terapin aj aturan yg lebi simple... mobil pelat hitam, pelat merah wajib non subsidi, pelat kuning dpt premios harga subsidi..mobil2 angkutan barang pelat hitam, ada mekanisme (bsa brupa kupon atau jatah per minggu) utk dapetin bbm subsidi terbatas... ribet tp at least bkin rada susah penyelewengan bbm subsidi ini.... beress.... persoalan takut ntuh pelat kuning atau angkutan malah jadi jualan bensin eceran, yaelah, brapa banyak sehh pengguna mobil pribadi mau beli bensin literan tuang sebtol2 tiap kali ngisi bbm...

atau kalo doi doyan make kartu2 ini itu... nahh bkin lah kartu jatah bensin utk pihak2 yg tertentu... trus harga non subsidi di lepas ke harga pasar dan di update tiap ari...
kalo plat merah dah lama om... plat hitam kan perlu regulasi tersendiri...
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sabar... sabar... nanti dulu judge yang gak2 ke si kurus. biarkan dia dan teamnya kerja dulu.
kalo 3 taon masih gini2 aja, kita maki2 lagi... :big_grin:

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ribetnya dimana ya? ane malah bingung. bukan justru kalo subsidi diapus ke semua malah jadi ga ribet? dan kalo di golong2kan justru malah jadi ribet?
Intinya knp diamrik dan malaysia dan negara lain lebih murah tanpa subsidi ya karena ketidakbecusan pertamina aja. Semua perusahaan yg ga efisien jalaninnya juga sama tapi bedanya kalo pertamina ini ngumpet di bawah kata"subsidi", nah skrg mau di non-subsidi kan baru keliatan padahal operasional mereka yg tidak efisien (mungkin bisa dibaca, komisi/sogok/korupsi).