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utk saat ini settingan mobil sy (bisa diubah2 via laptop dng program PPS, dan penyetelan FPR) adalah utk harian, pingin tau gimana settingan utk harian kalok di toll ...
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btw, perbandingan bobot mobil sy 1110 kg : peak power 156 hp = 7.11
Jika mobil Anda angkanya lebih kecil dari 7.11 artinya sdh nampak di atas kertas, mobil Anda lebih kentjang dibandingkan mobil sy
Jika mobil Anda angkanya lebih kecil dari 7.11 artinya sdh nampak di atas kertas, mobil Anda lebih kentjang dibandingkan mobil sy
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sbg perbandingan :
BMW E36 323i th 1995 (2500cc), bobot 1385 kg : 168 hp = 8.15
BMW E36 323i th 1995 (2500cc), bobot 1385 kg : 168 hp = 8.15
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minimal, dlm hal akselerasi awal, mobil sy (Pug 306 yg 2000cc) bisa lebih cepat daripada BMW 323i (2500cc), walau mungkin kalah di topspeed (di trek panjang lurus)JESKONENG wrote:sbg perbandingan :
BMW E36 323i th 1995, bobot 1385 kg : 168 hp = 8.15
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silakan masing2 pemilik mobil itung berapa hasil bagi bobot mobil : peak power mesin
bobot mobil dan peak power mesin ada di owner's manual book masing2 mobil, tapi kalok sudah hilang, bisa cek di sini :
http://www.ultimatespecs.com/car-specs
bobot mobil dan peak power mesin ada di owner's manual book masing2 mobil, tapi kalok sudah hilang, bisa cek di sini :
http://www.ultimatespecs.com/car-specs
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jika angka hasil bagi itu sekitar 6 maka di trek 402m mobil Anda bisa ikut di bracket time 14-15 detik !!
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dan kelas 14-15 detik @ 402 m itu kalok gak salah adalah wilayahnya mobil2 2000-2500cc turbocharged !
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wah kalo teori gitu susah juga..
ga bs jadi patokan , hanya patokan diatas kertas saja,kalo di saat praktik /lapangan hasilnya malah bisa berbeda..
faktor2 lain banyak pengaruh , traksi, gear ratio, aerodinamis, engine respon, bobot dan faktor x..
apa lagi nebak2 402, emang sih ada benarnya soal kelas 14-15 untuk mobil forced induction..
kalo cc tergantung mobilnya juga , banyak honda2 yang bisa nyebur kelas 14-15 dengan mesin B series nya atau pun D series..
atau pun daihatsu winner mesin 1.6 nyebur kelas tersebut.. kondisi mobil N/a..
jadi kayanya ga bisa jd patokan juga sih..
buat sekedar patokan kasar sih boleh2 aja...
di ecu stdr? ato yg gw tau bisa di reprogram biasanya pake stand alone / piggyback , kecuali ecu nya evo 8 keatas bisa di reflash sendiri ..
kalo asli pabrikan biasanya ga bisa di reprogram sendiri kecuali dari pabriknya asli atau rechiping ..
yg ane tau yah..
ga bs jadi patokan , hanya patokan diatas kertas saja,kalo di saat praktik /lapangan hasilnya malah bisa berbeda..
faktor2 lain banyak pengaruh , traksi, gear ratio, aerodinamis, engine respon, bobot dan faktor x..
apa lagi nebak2 402, emang sih ada benarnya soal kelas 14-15 untuk mobil forced induction..
kalo cc tergantung mobilnya juga , banyak honda2 yang bisa nyebur kelas 14-15 dengan mesin B series nya atau pun D series..
atau pun daihatsu winner mesin 1.6 nyebur kelas tersebut.. kondisi mobil N/a..
jadi kayanya ga bisa jd patokan juga sih..
buat sekedar patokan kasar sih boleh2 aja...

maksudnya bisa ubah2 pake laptop pake program PPS??JESKONENG wrote:utk saat ini settingan mobil sy (bisa diubah2 via laptop dng program PPS, dan penyetelan FPR) adalah utk harian, pingin tau gimana settingan utk harian kalok di toll ...
di ecu stdr? ato yg gw tau bisa di reprogram biasanya pake stand alone / piggyback , kecuali ecu nya evo 8 keatas bisa di reflash sendiri ..
kalo asli pabrikan biasanya ga bisa di reprogram sendiri kecuali dari pabriknya asli atau rechiping ..
yg ane tau yah..
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Iya om Takumi, itu semua cuma patokan kasar aja kok ...
PPS (Peugeot Planet System) di laptop bisa merubah settingan timing pengapian, kadar CO dan idle speed, dan ECU Pug 306 (jenis jadul) mudah diremap dng cara mengganti e-prom saja... kalok ECU modern gak pake e-prom, tapi chips yg lebih canggih, hanya bisa diakali dng piggyback ...
PPS (Peugeot Planet System) di laptop bisa merubah settingan timing pengapian, kadar CO dan idle speed, dan ECU Pug 306 (jenis jadul) mudah diremap dng cara mengganti e-prom saja... kalok ECU modern gak pake e-prom, tapi chips yg lebih canggih, hanya bisa diakali dng piggyback ...
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Mobil customer bengkel teman, foto engine bay-nya saja ya, mesin 2000cc, silakan tebak mobilnya
Katanya sih masuk 7-8 detik kalau adu jogging jarak pendek, tapi jogging nya selalu di tempat dan acara resmi

Katanya sih masuk 7-8 detik kalau adu jogging jarak pendek, tapi jogging nya selalu di tempat dan acara resmi
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Mitsubishi...imsus2c wrote:Mobil customer bengkel teman, foto engine bay-nya saja ya, mesin 2000cc, silakan tebak mobilnya
Katanya sih masuk 7-8 detik kalau adu jogging jarak pendek, tapi jogging nya selalu di tempat dan acara resmi
Ada logo rallyart nya dan 3 wajik nya...

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4D63 enjin?ALX7 wrote:Mitsubishi...imsus2c wrote:Mobil customer bengkel teman, foto engine bay-nya saja ya, mesin 2000cc, silakan tebak mobilnya
Katanya sih masuk 7-8 detik kalau adu jogging jarak pendek, tapi jogging nya selalu di tempat dan acara resmi
Ada logo rallyart nya dan 3 wajik nya...
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7-8 detik utk 201 m mungkin ?
karna rekor Bugatti Veyron 2012 : 9.9 detik utk 402m atau 1/4 mile
karna rekor Bugatti Veyron 2012 : 9.9 detik utk 402m atau 1/4 mile
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Mitsubishi Evolution VI (asli Evolution, bukan evo abal-abal ala Lancer)madcat015 wrote:4D63 enjin?ALX7 wrote:Mitsubishi...imsus2c wrote:Mobil customer bengkel teman, foto engine bay-nya saja ya, mesin 2000cc, silakan tebak mobilnya
Katanya sih masuk 7-8 detik kalau adu jogging jarak pendek, tapi jogging nya selalu di tempat dan acara resmi
Ada logo rallyart nya dan 3 wajik nya...
Eterna?
4G63T, Heavily tuned, 400++HP dyno test (kalau ngga salah, stock output 4G63T dari pabrik, utk evo 6 ini "cuma" 250-280HP)
Semua logo yg nempel disitu (Ralliart, Koyorad, GReddy, HKS, dsb...), bukan tempelan aksesoris sticker abal-abal, karena memang ada barangnya semua
Terakhir kemarin jogging di acara tahun baru Kenjeran
Habis turun jogging, langsung jebol dan overhaul gearbox-nya

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Bisa jadi pak, pastinya kurang tau...JESKONENG wrote:7-8 detik utk 201 m mungkin ?
karna rekor Bugatti Veyron 2012 : 9.9 detik utk 402m atau 1/4 mile
Besok saya tanyakan temen saya yg nyetting mobil ini

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Mitsubishi Evolution VI (asli Evolution, bukan evo abal-abal ala Lancer)imsus2c wrote:4D63 enjin?madcat015 wrote:Mitsubishi...ALX7 wrote:Mobil customer bengkel teman, foto engine bay-nya saja ya, mesin 2000cc, silakan tebak mobilnya
Katanya sih masuk 7-8 detik kalau adu jogging jarak pendek, tapi jogging nya selalu di tempat dan acara resmi
Ada logo rallyart nya dan 3 wajik nya...
Eterna?
4G63T, Heavily tuned, 400++HP dyno test (kalau ngga salah, stock output 4G63T dari pabrik, utk evo 6 ini "cuma" 250-280HP)
Semua logo yg nempel disitu (Rallyart, Koyorad, GReddy, HKS, dsb...), bukan tempelan aksesoris sticker abal-abal, karena memang ada barangnya semua
Terakhir kemarin jogging di acara tahun baru Kenjeran
Habis turun jogging, langsung jebol dan overhaul gearbox-nya

Kenjeran memang 201m... kalok Sentul 402m
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Iya pak, sepertinya begitu
Tapi di Kenjeran ini, banyak yg catatan waktunya terkoreksi dibanding ajang jogging/sprint sebelumnya di Surabaya.
Soalnya kalau sebelum2 ini, ajang jogging/sprint biasanya di Juanda
Mungkin kualitas aspal jalan/lintasan yg pengaruh bikin waktunya jadi turun
Tapi di Kenjeran ini, banyak yg catatan waktunya terkoreksi dibanding ajang jogging/sprint sebelumnya di Surabaya.
Soalnya kalau sebelum2 ini, ajang jogging/sprint biasanya di Juanda
Mungkin kualitas aspal jalan/lintasan yg pengaruh bikin waktunya jadi turun

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oghh kaya diagnostic tools jatohnya.., jatohnya hanya diagnostic sama adjust2 aja yah..JESKONENG wrote:Iya om Takumi, itu semua cuma patokan kasar aja kok ...
PPS (Peugeot Planet System) di laptop bisa merubah settingan timing pengapian, kadar CO dan idle speed, dan ECU Pug 306 (jenis jadul) mudah diremap dng cara mengganti e-prom saja... kalok ECU modern gak pake e-prom, tapi chips yg lebih canggih, hanya bisa diakali dng piggyback ...
kalo di mobil jepang lawas kan di lakuin secara mekanikal alias manual ..
ganti e prom ya namanya rechiping yak.. sampe taun brp biasanya?
iya di dareah rata2 cuman 201m..,
kalo 402m cuman di sentul doang lahannya yg ada..
dyno nya di mesin dyno dimana?
400++ on dyno on engine ato on wheel
soal waktu drag masalahnya di mesin timmingnya jadi terkadang hasil setiap daerah bisa berbeda2.. karena ga ada standarisasi nya ( buatan lokal rata2..)
iseng juga majang
sempet morning run akhir taun kemaren nih bareng temen2..
mobil ane yg ijo...
haha cuman jadi team hore aja cam car doank .. ga isa ngejer soalnya haha..
mesin ane standaran ga turbo , yg laen hp nya ga ada yg di bawah gope on wheel (kecuali evo x nya stock) ..

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Takumi wrote:iya di dareah rata2 cuman 201m..,JESKONENG wrote:Iya om Takumi, itu semua cuma patokan kasar aja kok ...
PPS (Peugeot Planet System) di laptop bisa merubah settingan timing pengapian, kadar CO dan idle speed, dan ECU Pug 306 (jenis jadul) mudah diremap dng cara mengganti e-prom saja... kalok ECU modern gak pake e-prom, tapi chips yg lebih canggih, hanya bisa diakali dng piggyback ...
kalo 402m cuman di sentul doang lahannya yg ada..
dyno nya di mesin dyno dimana?
400++ on dyno on engine ato on wheel
Dyno-nya di Surabaya
Sekalian koreksi post saya diatas, setalah di-tuning habis2an yg benar bukan 400++HP, tapi 500++HP
Link (dari event lawas, tahun 2011):
Djarum Black Dyno Attraction Seri Kedua
'Revenge', Giliran Evo VI Indar Lumat Fairlady WW AutotechnicPOWER CHAMPION (HIGHEST OUTRIGHT POWER) INDAR – MITSUBISHI EVO 6 – 504,5 HP
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kalok mesin 1800-2000cc mencapai di atas 250 hp, itu masuk kelas berat om ..... mobil sy dng 156 hp misik kelas teri ... hehehehe
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Iya pak...JESKONENG wrote:kalok mesin 1800-2000cc mencapai di atas 250 hp, itu masuk kelas berat om ..... mobil sy dng 156 hp misik kelas teri ... hehehehe

4G63T (2000cc) ini, hasil tuningan pabrik saja tanpa diotak-atik sdh bisa tembus 250-280HP
Kemarin saya iseng post gegara lihat baca post pak Jes, mengenai gambaran mobil sekian cc, mestinya masuk sekian detik

Omong2, 4G63T ini saya rasa secara butt-o-meter, turbo boost nya besar sekali, apalagi yg sudah tembus diatas 350HP, jadinya lag-nya juga lumayan. Bikin ngga enak kalau dipakai daily/dalkot.
Mungkin kalau ada drag super pendek 10-25 meter, kayaknya mobil pak Jes bisa ngalahin evo

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