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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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DOHC wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 14:56
marmut wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:36
DOHC wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:55




gentongxz wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 13:19
DOHC wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:55
dalam buku manual enginer 1tr-2tr pengencangan
spark plug dengan kunci 16 dengan torsi 18N.m (184kgf.cm , 13ft.lb)
untuk baut roda
152 N.m ( 112Ft.lb) untuk steel wheel
121 N.m ( 89 ft.lb) untuk alumunium wheel
dalam busi NGK saya biasa pengencangan sesuai kotak yg tertera..,pakai kunci bawaan toyota..+ busur ( tidak ada tambahan cheater bar atau pakai kunci torsi ).
mungkin untuk busi kendaraan lain sesuai petunjuk Pak Marmut.. :big_exellent:


ini busur maksud nya yg 1/8 putaran stelah busi hand tighten yah pak ?
Omnibus wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 14:43
iya Pak DOHC..,kadang saya kurangin dikit..krn gasketnya sdh pasti padat (busi lama) ,dan di lakukan pengecekan berkala juga.. :big_smile]
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seperti kata Pak Omni juga... :mky_08: saya pakai yang ini sebagai panduan .. :mky_08: webnya https://www.ngk-sparkplugs.jp/english/t ... index.html
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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DOHC wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 14:09
kl gambar mata ala iluminati itu aslinya masuk glodok beberapa dekade lalu ,jaman jenderal senyum masi jd presiden, dgn merk carl schlieper, lalu oleh sang importir d glodok, dicoba utk diindonesiakan dgn nama tjap mata (toh lafalan gmbh itu bkin lidah keseleo)... ehh entah gmana, mulai lah bermunculan tjap mata tjap mata jadi2an, yg kamfretnya lg tetep ngaku2 buatan gmbh padahal mah cungkwo + lokal, nah untung nya skrg krn ud mulai banyak yg komplen, akhirnya tjap mata ud cantumin made in taiwan

agak kasian jg sehh toko2 yg masi ada stok carl schlieper / tjap mata aseli, gara2 oknum2 kakap kamfret (yg kira2 saya tau siapa, cuman ga brani nyebut namanya, takut di blacklist masuk lindeteves seumur idup) citra tjap mata agak kurang bersinar jadinya
Oalahh
Tapi emg gitu gak sih Om
Tiap ada barang apa yg rada terkenal ntr ada banyak palsunya
Kadang kadang bikin gedeg juga

Btw tadi saya sempet liat di toko ijo carl schlieper
Produknya gak cuma socket ya
Ada gunting segala (itu asli apa palsu ya :big_think: )
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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gentongxz wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 14:18
bener pak..,kualitas bahan tools lama memang masih lebih bagus dari produksi sekarang..,mungkin di sebabkan cost yang makin tinggi ... :big_think:
Mungkin ya Om
Palu di rumah yg lama masih pada bisa di pake (yg ganggang kayu)
Palu baru yg udah pake ganggang semacam karet lebih cepet rusak (lepas dari karetnya, pernah nyaris kena kepala bokap dulu pas lepas)
Rada bahaya juga sih
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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gentongxz wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 15:17
Omnibus wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 14:39
gentongxz wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 13:19
busi honda L15z kl sesuai bukman mintanya 18Nm pak. tp kl dikasih segitu ulir hitam sampai atas dekat gasket. kl di website NGK (busi oem honda) mintanya 25Nm, pas sy kasih 25Nm masalah selesai.

kadang panduan di bukman gitu .... gmn sy bilangnya ya .... yah begitu deh kadang2 pak .... :weekk:
saya lebih suka pakai panduan di kotak businya pak..gak pernah pakai torsi ngencangin busi..,gak dapat feel saya.. :mky_04:
Si mbah omni kan punya tork wrench ampe selusin pak, mahal2 satu nya 3-9 jutaan.. biasaa, supplier tools mahal di lindeteves dia, makanya pasti makenya mau yg torsi torsi an
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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gentongxz wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 15:32
DOHC wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 14:56
marmut wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:36





gentongxz wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 13:19

dalam buku manual enginer 1tr-2tr pengencangan
spark plug dengan kunci 16 dengan torsi 18N.m (184kgf.cm , 13ft.lb)
untuk baut roda
152 N.m ( 112Ft.lb) untuk steel wheel
121 N.m ( 89 ft.lb) untuk alumunium wheel
dalam busi NGK saya biasa pengencangan sesuai kotak yg tertera..,pakai kunci bawaan toyota..+ busur ( tidak ada tambahan cheater bar atau pakai kunci torsi ).
mungkin untuk busi kendaraan lain sesuai petunjuk Pak Marmut.. :big_exellent:


ini busur maksud nya yg 1/8 putaran stelah busi hand tighten yah pak ?
Omnibus wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 14:43
iya Pak DOHC..,kadang saya kurangin dikit..krn gasketnya sdh pasti padat (busi lama) ,dan di lakukan pengecekan berkala juga.. :big_smile]
Ini kayanya ada neh alatnya pak, angle wrench, kl yg ini mah ga perlu nihon atau jerman, cungkwo jg bole
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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michaelgiri93 wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 16:02
DOHC wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 14:09
kl gambar mata ala iluminati itu aslinya masuk glodok beberapa dekade lalu ,jaman jenderal senyum masi jd presiden, dgn merk carl schlieper, lalu oleh sang importir d glodok, dicoba utk diindonesiakan dgn nama tjap mata (toh lafalan gmbh itu bkin lidah keseleo)... ehh entah gmana, mulai lah bermunculan tjap mata tjap mata jadi2an, yg kamfretnya lg tetep ngaku2 buatan gmbh padahal mah cungkwo + lokal, nah untung nya skrg krn ud mulai banyak yg komplen, akhirnya tjap mata ud cantumin made in taiwan

agak kasian jg sehh toko2 yg masi ada stok carl schlieper / tjap mata aseli, gara2 oknum2 kakap kamfret (yg kira2 saya tau siapa, cuman ga brani nyebut namanya, takut di blacklist masuk lindeteves seumur idup) citra tjap mata agak kurang bersinar jadinya
Oalahh
Tapi emg gitu gak sih Om
Tiap ada barang apa yg rada terkenal ntr ada banyak palsunya
Kadang kadang bikin gedeg juga

Btw tadi saya sempet liat di toko ijo carl schlieper
Produknya gak cuma socket ya
Ada gunting segala (itu asli apa palsu ya :big_think: )
Kl yg ud banyak ga jelas nya gt, kl saya pribadi sehh ud jd males.. dan seandainya sultann yah mending skalian hajar wera, stahlwille, atau bahco

Atau kl kerehore, yah hajar wipro, diamond, triple circle

Tp kl stenga kerehore yah campur2 lah antara cungkwo dan nihon
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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DOHC wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:34
Kl yg ud banyak ga jelas nya gt, kl saya pribadi sehh ud jd males.. dan seandainya sultann yah mending skalian hajar wera, stahlwille, atau bahco

Atau kl kerehore, yah hajar wipro, diamond, triple circle

Tp kl stenga kerehore yah campur2 lah antara cungkwo dan nihon
Berhubung sy kere hore ya yg ada di pake aja :big_biglaugh:
Wipro buat kere hore udah lumayan ya, kalo dibanding krisbrow gitu gimana Mbah?

Kalo smacam tengtools gt ya keren sih Mbah,pernah lihat punyanya chrisfix, tool drawernya keren, rapi banget
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DOHC wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:27
gentongxz wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 15:17
Omnibus wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 14:39

busi honda L15z kl sesuai bukman mintanya 18Nm pak. tp kl dikasih segitu ulir hitam sampai atas dekat gasket. kl di website NGK (busi oem honda) mintanya 25Nm, pas sy kasih 25Nm masalah selesai.

kadang panduan di bukman gitu .... gmn sy bilangnya ya .... yah begitu deh kadang2 pak .... :weekk:
saya lebih suka pakai panduan di kotak businya pak..gak pernah pakai torsi ngencangin busi..,gak dapat feel saya.. :mky_04:
Si mbah omni kan punya tork wrench ampe selusin pak, mahal2 satu nya 3-9 jutaan.. biasaa, supplier tools mahal di lindeteves dia, makanya pasti makenya mau yg torsi torsi an
Mahal jg ya mbah ampe 9 juta :ungg:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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Mbah DOHC Genuine Oil...

Itu ada yg bingung fuel pump mati di thread lipindut...

Dimohon kehadirannya untuk membantu beliau...

Tadi pagi diskusi ama mbah garasi 69 sih, disepakati kalau fuel pump mati nampaknya perlu didoakan saja ketimbang diganti.

Gimana tuh mbah?
:big_weee:

*Sengaja oot*

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yanuarra wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:25
Mahal jg ya mbah ampe 9 juta :ungg:

ari 730D/20 larang beli?

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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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michaelgiri93 wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:05
DOHC wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:34
Kl yg ud banyak ga jelas nya gt, kl saya pribadi sehh ud jd males.. dan seandainya sultann yah mending skalian hajar wera, stahlwille, atau bahco

Atau kl kerehore, yah hajar wipro, diamond, triple circle

Tp kl stenga kerehore yah campur2 lah antara cungkwo dan nihon
Berhubung sy kere hore ya yg ada di pake aja :big_biglaugh:
Wipro buat kere hore udah lumayan ya, kalo dibanding krisbrow gitu gimana Mbah?

Kalo smacam tengtools gt ya keren sih Mbah,pernah lihat punyanya chrisfix, tool drawernya keren, rapi banget
Kl buat kita2 tukang delco motor starter ama spion colongan kerehore club asemregez musatek sehh wipro dkk ud ckup mbah

Dl kita2 make nya tekiro malah, cuman stelah doi sok jual mahal plus embel2 ngibul nihon nya yah kta2 pindah hati

Tengtools, toptul, dkk sehh kelasnya ud lmayan mbah walaupun buatan cungkwo / taiwan.. mirip2 ama jtc.. ibarat nya ud bukan kasta sudra lah
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josomba wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:07 Mbah DOHC Genuine Oil...

Itu ada yg bingung fuel pump mati di thread lipindut...

Dimohon kehadirannya untuk membantu beliau...

Tadi pagi diskusi ama mbah garasi 69 sih, disepakati kalau fuel pump mati nampaknya perlu didoakan saja ketimbang diganti.

Gimana tuh mbah?
:big_weee:

*Sengaja oot*

:big_biglaugh:
Lah fuel pump mati mah jangan diganti, melanggar aturan diktat institute technik van asemregez tuh

Coba dketok2 dl, tiup2 dl abis itu d semprot2 bensin dalem nya

Masi belom nyala ?coba jumper ke aki langsung

Itung2 belajar ngerasain kena sundut listrik ama api sikit
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DOHC wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:47
josomba wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:07 Mbah DOHC Genuine Oil...

Itu ada yg bingung fuel pump mati di thread lipindut...

Dimohon kehadirannya untuk membantu beliau...

Tadi pagi diskusi ama mbah garasi 69 sih, disepakati kalau fuel pump mati nampaknya perlu didoakan saja ketimbang diganti.

Gimana tuh mbah?
:big_weee:

*Sengaja oot*

:big_biglaugh:
Lah fuel pump mati mah jangan diganti, melanggar aturan diktat institute technik van asemregez tuh

Coba dketok2 dl, tiup2 dl abis itu d semprot2 bensin dalem nya

Masi belom nyala ?coba jumper ke aki langsung

Itung2 belajar ngerasain kena sundut listrik ama api sikit
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michaelgiri93 wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 16:04
gentongxz wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 14:18
bener pak..,kualitas bahan tools lama memang masih lebih bagus dari produksi sekarang..,mungkin di sebabkan cost yang makin tinggi ... :big_think:
Mungkin ya Om
Palu di rumah yg lama masih pada bisa di pake (yg ganggang kayu)
Palu baru yg udah pake ganggang semacam karet lebih cepet rusak (lepas dari karetnya, pernah nyaris kena kepala bokap dulu pas lepas)
Rada bahaya juga sih
makanya Pak.. tools old jangan di buang2 lagi..,di bersihkan.. karena kualitasnya bisa juga di atas produk2 baru sekarang.. :big_exellent:
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saya tadi ada jalan2 berburu.. tools kelas hore..kere.. :big_cry: ..
ada jumpa kunci merek AIGO set 12PT.. kalo liat di online semua trademarknya made in japan..
nah ini saya jumpanya trademarknya REG IN JAPAN.. :big_think:
dulu waktu masih muda sering benar dengar istilah ginian..,cuman mah dah lupa maksudnya.. :mky_04:
apakah ini asli dari jepang atau dari luar di register di jepang..?
Mbah and dosen per tools an.. :big_chicken: mohon di bantu penjelasannya..

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DOHC wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:47
josomba wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:07 Mbah DOHC Genuine Oil...

Itu ada yg bingung fuel pump mati di thread lipindut...

Dimohon kehadirannya untuk membantu beliau...

Tadi pagi diskusi ama mbah garasi 69 sih, disepakati kalau fuel pump mati nampaknya perlu didoakan saja ketimbang diganti.

Gimana tuh mbah?
:big_weee:

*Sengaja oot*

:big_biglaugh:
Lah fuel pump mati mah jangan diganti, melanggar aturan diktat institute technik van asemregez tuh

Coba dketok2 dl, tiup2 dl abis itu d semprot2 bensin dalem nya

Masi belom nyala ?coba jumper ke aki langsung

Itung2 belajar ngerasain kena sundut listrik ama api sikit
teringat fuel pump ipah neh... jalan keluar kota mobil macam gak ada tenaganya..seperti mau koit.. :big_think: ..,cek di bengkel daerah ..rotax nya.. panas.. kabel ada yg mau gosong...,rupanya sumbat ama kotoran..di dalam tangki.. :frm_bang_head: ..,ketok2 di brake cleaner ..test api..masih oke pasang lagi( org begkelnya bilang gak bisa lama)...kabel di buat yg baru...,sampe kota bongkar lagi..ganti rotax..harga kalo gak salah 300-400rb(denso)(rotax only)(tahun 2015) yha..? :big_think:
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gentongxz wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:52 saya tadi ada jalan2 berburu.. tools kelas hore..kere.. :big_cry: ..
ada jumpa kunci merek AIGO set 12PT.. kalo liat di online semua trademarknya made in japan..
nah ini saya jumpanya trademarknya REG IN JAPAN.. :big_think:
dulu waktu masih muda sering benar dengar istilah ginian..,cuman mah dah lupa maksudnya.. :mky_04:
apakah ini asli dari jepang atau dari luar di register di jepang..?
Mbah and dosen per tools an.. :big_chicken: mohon di bantu penjelasannya..

:mky_08: :mky_08:
kl soal reg in japan, made in japan, ga masalah om.. kadang barang2 nihon bsa gt koq penamaan nya

wong tekiro yg buatan lokal aj lebi sinting, brani2 nya tempel lambang JIS

btw, di lindeteves saya ad ktemu satu toko jual aigo konci pas set lmayan lengkap.. harganya net 1 jeti
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DOHC wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:35
gentongxz wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:52 saya tadi ada jalan2 berburu.. tools kelas hore..kere.. :big_cry: ..
ada jumpa kunci merek AIGO set 12PT.. kalo liat di online semua trademarknya made in japan..
nah ini saya jumpanya trademarknya REG IN JAPAN.. :big_think:
dulu waktu masih muda sering benar dengar istilah ginian..,cuman mah dah lupa maksudnya.. :mky_04:
apakah ini asli dari jepang atau dari luar di register di jepang..?
Mbah and dosen per tools an.. :big_chicken: mohon di bantu penjelasannya..

:mky_08: :mky_08:
kl soal reg in japan, made in japan, ga masalah om.. kadang barang2 nihon bsa gt koq penamaan nya

wong tekiro yg buatan lokal aj lebi sinting, brani2 nya tempel lambang JIS

btw, di lindeteves saya ad ktemu satu toko jual aigo konci pas set lmayan lengkap.. harganya net 1 jeti
:big_think: ...,berarti tidak ada pengecualian nama yha..? tenang.. saya tidak ngincar yg kasta tinggi.. :big_biglaugh: neh ada dapat palm ratchet kasta hore kere.. :big_cry: ..dari sellery..di lihat.. wah ..cocok neh koleksi..di raba..mayan padat+ giginya lumayan smooth..di sini dah mutar 6 tempat baru di toko pertama baru ada..,kirain di tempat lain ada stok ( nope)..pikir + keluar hepeng..(harga di bwh nopek cheng untuk 3pc ini dah 3x bolak balik negonya)..( 1/4.3/8.1/2)..mayan di rumah bongkar2 bagian sulit..biar baut cepat lepas.. :big_grin: ...,PIC nyusul yhaaa... lagi di kasih pelicin.. :mky_08:
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Pingin beli kunci sock uk 29 mm.. di onlen ada Koken, TONE, Toptul, Tekiro, Lippro, Sherlock, King Tony.. bagus yg mana yahh :ungg:
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SELLERY PALM RATCHET ..,not to bad lah..,besi semua..,untuk kelas rumahan masih .. :big_okay:
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yanuarra wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 14:52 Pingin beli kunci sock uk 29 mm.. di onlen ada Koken, TONE, Toptul, Tekiro, Lippro, Sherlock, King Tony.. bagus yg mana yahh :ungg:
elora,stahlwille,gedore,matador,snap-on,facom u.s.a ,proto .... :big_exellent: :big_exellent: :big_exellent:

harga tidak pernah bohong.. :big_smoking:

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yanuarra wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 14:52 Pingin beli kunci sock uk 29 mm.. di onlen ada Koken, TONE, Toptul, Tekiro, Lippro, Sherlock, King Tony.. bagus yg mana yahh :ungg:
toptul dong ......!

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:big_exellent:
gentongxz wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 14:54 SELLERY PALM RATCHET ..,not to bad lah..,besi semua..,untuk kelas rumahan masih .. :big_okay:
pak gentong dpt aja :big_exellent:

sy punya yg facom, mirip begitu. 1/4" aja sisanya pakai adaptor kl perlu 3/8 n 1/2.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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Omnibus wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 18:23 :big_exellent:
gentongxz wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 14:54 SELLERY PALM RATCHET ..,not to bad lah..,besi semua..,untuk kelas rumahan masih .. :big_okay:
pak gentong dpt aja :big_exellent:

sy punya yg facom, mirip begitu. 1/4" aja sisanya pakai adaptor kl perlu 3/8 n 1/2.
facom mah jangan di ragukan Pak Omni.. :mky_02: .., selagi dapat harga masuk akal komplitin aja ampe 3pc.. :mky_04: ,dah coba yg 1/4 juga tadi (coba kunci pakai dua tangan) ..boleh tahan lah.. :big_biglaugh: ..,asal gak di putar pakai kunci pipa aja...bisa jebol.. :mky_01: