Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

Segala mobil tipe sedan (Baleno, Accord, Corrola, dll).

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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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mungkin AFRnya 15,x sih..
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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AFR 14,7 juga seringkali terlalu lean kalo diluar kondisi idle.
mknya most mobil command AFR blm tntu harus 14,7 (agak lebih kecil, terutama rpm akselerasi) secara diasumsikan ada juga bahan bakar yg tidak terbakar (jadi kerak), diusahakan mendekati 14,7 nya yah (saat) yg bisa terbakar itu.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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taxi sama mobil kita kan lain?

taxi vios sudah di spec down,
bukan "bisa" lagi, tapi "harus" minum premium :D
mana ada operator taxi vios yang mewajibkan minum pertamax+ , bukan cari untung lagi tuh :)

kalau mercy c230 sport, itu juga sudah spec down :)
gua pernah iseng naik (sok jadi bos :D) , sopirnya bilang awal launching taxi mercy memang harus pertamax+ , tapi akhirnya di setting ulang. jadi bisa pakai premium. bayangin aja 1:6 , gimana mau untung kalau pakai pertamax+.
sedangkan tarifnya gak terlalu beda jauh dgn tarif taxi biasa.
kalau sekarang gak tahu lagi tarifnya.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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datsu wrote:Isi premium itu sekali lagi bukan masalah selama dari awal ya dilatih pake premium..

vios lama gw dilatih dari awal pake pertamax plus pas diisi premium ternyata knock sensor gw gak sanggup tuh.. tetep harus ber bardahl ria.. :D
thanks om :)
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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bukannya parts internals nya vios taxi masih sama yah dgn yg biasa?
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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mobil biasa aja tinggal keluarin duit pasang "babi" buat ngakalin ECU supaya bisa minum premium. apalagi buat TAM cuma otak atik ECU buatan sendiri :)

memangnya honda naikin 160-170-180 HP pakai apa? selain ECU dan kompresi.
setahu gua di pasaran spareparts tidak ada perbedaan antara parts accord 160-170 cmiiw:)
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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datsu wrote:
poeticmind wrote: neo baleno vs vios, di sektor mana nih? hehehe... kalo nyaman, neo lah... tapi ada review dari bro datsu, kalo new vios memang oke performance nya. but... ada masalah suka mati ditengah jalan gara2 telat nge-gas.
kalo gue sendiri, overall... pilih neo. setelah nyoba jalan2 sama neo nya shadowchan... :)
betul bos.. kenceng mah kenceng kalo RPM nya udah tinggi.. Tapi suka mati sendiri.. lah wong yang punya aja udah 4 bulan juga msh suka mati katanya.. settingan idle RPM nya kalo kata gw yang kekecilan.. mana kalo udah mati ngidupinnya susah.. :capede:
poeticmind wrote:@r1210g : bukan keknya, datsu ngambil jurusan ekonomi di ITB. kalo ga salah... :ngacir:
jurusan dagang maksutnya? wakakakakak... gw sejurusan ama satyr.. tinggal tanya aja ama dia.. :D
Hot2K wrote:kl udah pake header custom pasti lebih cepet deh nyusulnya. gas jg gak usah pol2an bgt. heheheh....:D (racun mode = on)
ini lagi diracun.. hehehehe.. kapan kita bisa "olahraga" bareng mas Hot2K? hueheehehe...
paddock wrote:weleh om poetic ditembak ma datsu lo entar,.
gue aj sempet kesel saat dipulangin gara2 dianggep kejauhan,.
OOT. Ada benernya juga ortu lo bro.. program kemitraan kan SPPnya mahal dan menurut gw gak worthed kuliah S1 di ganesha dengan SPP segitu..
gw kan jurusan marketing - ITB

wong IT tp malah jualan :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Neo sih ada MID.
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weleh bos satyr kerja di schlumberger aj,.Di tempat ane lulusan elektro ma ITnya banyakan disana,.lumayan 30-50 juta perbulan klo ditempatin di abu dhabi,.padahal baru 2 taun kerja,.

Om datsu sama2 STEI ma christ bos,.Gue pernah kekampusnya,.enak air keran bisa langsung diminum,.

Weleh itb ya bagus om,.Gue cocok ma udara bandung,.klo disini sauna ria meski Sppnya murah,.maklum its deket pantai,.Capek nih baru ngospek maba,.

Kenapa ya soluna ane klo geber di siang hari di tol ngelitik parah,.tapi klo malem ga ada ngelitiknya tuh meski sampe kena cut off (6000Rpm,),.

memang kebanyakan setelan lebih rich dari 14,7,.tapi untuk menekan emisi CO2 bisa pasang setelan lean tapi kadar Nox bakal naek,.

gue tadi nyobain galant matic temen ane,.kayanya ga bgtu enteng (maklum biasa naek manual) tapi klo bejek pol bisa ada lag kayak launch control,.Tapi naek galant emang yahud,.Klo punya mo accord ato camry 2007 gue lawan deh he3x,.
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poeticmind wrote: @shadow chan : hehehe cukup dari tukang soto sampe garasi, udah kerasa kok.. terus itu elo tarik2an sama accord taun berapa? buset sampe poll2an... hehehe!
Ha ha biasa..pengen ngetest aja..sekali ama innova dah jelas menang, terus ama accord ternyata menang juga..yang innova malah driver lebih ok, pake innova kec. segitu udah MANTABH tuh ada sejuta tanjakan kan tol cipul arah bandung :mrgreen:

Yang accord bukan masalah accordnya kayanya, soalnya paling sekitar taun 2004-2004 doank tuh accord, masih yang cukup baru. :e-think:

Yach sekedar nyoba2 aja mumpung ke jktnya ama cewe gw..biasa kalo ama nyokap ya alon2 aja :mrgreen:
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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satyr wrote:coba sini gw yg nyetir accordnya.. yg 2.4 ya

2.3 boyo. wakakkaa
Ga tau tyr yang berapa..ampoen ah di tangan loe mah..yang boyo bukan accordnya soalnya melainkan drivernya aja :mrgreen:
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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new Vios juga ada MIDnya kok,.yang ga ada itu city
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Harga paling mahal, kelengkapan paling minim... It's a honda...
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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sepertinya yg ditawarkan lain bukan sekedar fitur.
kalo mau beli fitur, merk lain kali yah or kalo agak kosong kan bisa2 terkesan rada2 setengah taxi.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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Ya toyota sih emang gitu d... Ya fitur emang bukan segala2nya, tapi melihat harga yang di tawarkan, seharusnya sudah menjadi the whole package...
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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naldo wrote:Neo sih ada MID.
thanks om :)

btw neo baleno adalah istilah dari sx4 sedan ?

kalau swift sedan (yang ada pantatnya) jadi launch gak?

jadi bingung :)
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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paddock wrote:weleh bos satyr kerja di schlumberger aj,.Di tempat ane lulusan elektro ma ITnya banyakan disana,.lumayan 30-50 juta perbulan klo ditempatin di abu dhabi,.padahal baru 2 taun kerja,.

Om datsu sama2 STEI ma christ bos,.Gue pernah kekampusnya,.enak air keran bisa langsung diminum,.

Weleh itb ya bagus om,.Gue cocok ma udara bandung,.klo disini sauna ria meski Sppnya murah,.maklum its deket pantai,.Capek nih baru ngospek maba,.

Kenapa ya soluna ane klo geber di siang hari di tol ngelitik parah,.tapi klo malem ga ada ngelitiknya tuh meski sampe kena cut off (6000Rpm,),.

memang kebanyakan setelan lebih rich dari 14,7,.tapi untuk menekan emisi CO2 bisa pasang setelan lean tapi kadar Nox bakal naek,.

gue tadi nyobain galant matic temen ane,.kayanya ga bgtu enteng (maklum biasa naek manual) tapi klo bejek pol bisa ada lag kayak launch control,.Tapi naek galant emang yahud,.Klo punya mo accord ato camry 2007 gue lawan deh he3x,.

soluna om paddock warna apa tuh ? coklat gold?

galant matic ada yang pernah kasih videonya start dari 0 dapat 9 sec tuh.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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di bali ada tuh taksi pake city idsi,.
wah berarti image mercy c-klasse dibawah city dong,.kan mercy dipake taksi di jakarta,.

Performa=new vios
Kenyamanan=Neo baleno
Konsumsi BBM=new Vios
Harga=neo baleno
Fitur=new vios,neo baleno
Image non taksi=neo baleno new city(kecuali di bali,.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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soluna om paddock warna apa tuh ? coklat gold?

galant matic ada yang pernah kasih videonya start dari 0 dapat 9 sec tuh.[/quote]

warna silver pak,yang coklat gold yang diyoutube lagi skidding yah? gue ga tau itu punya siapa,.

Galant matic enak pak,.ga ada hentakan,.galant 2000 udah invecs blum yah?
Enak euy punya galant,.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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paddock wrote:Galant matic enak pak,.ga ada hentakan,.galant 2000 udah invecs blum yah?
Enak euy punya galant,.
udah lah, masa masih pake AT konvensional kaya kijang kapsul?
mungkin juga udah Invecs2 cmiiw.
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penjelasannya invecs apa sih? gue masih bngung ma sistem kerjanya,.
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paddock wrote:di bali ada tuh taksi pake city idsi,.
wah berarti image mercy c-klasse dibawah city dong,.kan mercy dipake taksi di jakarta,.

Performa=new vios
Kenyamanan=Neo baleno
Konsumsi BBM=new Vios
Harga=neo baleno
Fitur=new vios,neo baleno
Image non taksi=neo baleno new city(kecuali di bali,.
Setuju bro :beer:
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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paddock wrote:penjelasannya invecs apa sih? gue masih bngung ma sistem kerjanya,.

A/T Modern: INVECS III, Grade Logic Control, Super ECT, CVT-nya Jass, dsb.. bekerja dgn cara:

*menggunakan sensor Kecepatan, RPM, dan Bukaan throttle..

misal:

- Di Tanjakan... Jika dideteksi Kecepatan mobil menurun, sementara Throttle membesar, maka scr otomatis, Gear akan shift ke posisi yg punya torsi & power optimal, dan akan bertahan diposisi tersebut seterusnya, tidak pindah-pindah lagi, kecuali jalan kembali normal...

- Di Jalan Turunan... Jika di deteksi Kecepatan mobil bertambah, sementara Throttle berkurang / menginjak rem, Gear akan shift ke posisi yg punya Engine brake optimal sesuai kebutuhan mesin, dan akan bertahan diposisi tersebut seterusnya, tidak pindah-pindah lagi, kecuali jalanan kembali normal...

sistem tersebut juga meminimalisasi 'sentakan' saat pidah gigi :off_good:
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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paddock wrote:penjelasannya invecs apa sih? gue masih bngung ma sistem kerjanya,.
Nah kalo ini ada bro GTR ahlinya AT, atau bro Andy1800 jg boleh.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008 - Part 02

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InvecsIII = CVT nya mitsubishi, cmiiw...
Invecs & InvecsII = ECt nya mitsubishi utk 4/5speed 'gear' a/t.

selain info di atas,
ECT membantu untuk me-reka posisi gear yg sesuai sedini mungkin sebelum driver melulu menginjak pedal gas WOT/full-throttle (relatif tergantung berbagai beban & gerakan pedal), dgn maksud utk memperoleh efisiensi saat akselerasi/tanjakan.

tanpa ECT, kalo posisi gear tidak sesuai, lalu pedal gas melulu pada posisi full-throtle utk kickdown, maka akan terjadi tidak efisien daripada ber-akselerasi dgn posisi gear yg lebih sesuai pd waktu sedini mungkin.

mirip kadang kalo kita pernah merasa "tanggung" terlanjur at posisi gear lebih tinggi (pakai 5m/t dgn power mesin terbatas), saat ingin overtaking kendaraan besar merayap di tanjakan. maka kita prefer turunkan gigi dulu, baru gas-full kan.
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