Need advice : new SX4 or 2nd chevy estate ?

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HilmanZ wrote:harga sangat msk akal..model ok jg...tp mesin2 gmn ne?? 100 ps pa 110 ps?? kalo sm ky SX4 yg 100ps mana bs nandingin vios ma city ne..
dicoba aja dulu bro... baru review disini... hehehehe
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Ya coba dulu aja bro. Akhir februari dah launching. Mesin memang 100HP, tapi klo sama2 di dyno di roda, bukan flywheel, belom tentu kalah bro. But ya coba aja. Kalau nanti yang ane punya si, udah pasti the one n only JDM baleno, hehehe...
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Neo Baleno akan diluncurkan 22 Feb '08 jam 18:30 di Senayan City
23-24 Feb Jam 10:00...

Pertanyaan saya : Kenapa pakai sebutan Neo Baleno "The Crossover Sedan".?
IIRC : Sebutan Crossover berasal dari evolusi SUV yang awalnya hanya "more civilized than Jeep / General Purpose Vehicle", kemudian "softroader" dan akhirnya "SUV dengan kenyamanan rasa sedan " a.k.a. "Crossover"...
Sekarang Neo Baleno yang pada dasarnya sudah sedan (SUV nya tidak tampak sama sekali).... tapi masih disebut "The Crossover Sedan"... jadinya khan "Sedan rasa sedan", "Sedan rasa/kemampuan SUV" ....... bingung ah.... kok jadi babak belur begini nih...
SX4 hatchback ----- ground clearance tinggi, tapi tidak 4x4
SX4 sedan/notchback ----- ground clearace ??? dan pasti tidak 4x4.... ya sudah...
Di states... sebutan SX4 sports pun dipertanyakan oleh beberapa pengamat otomotif....
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itulah pak, dari dulu saya juga bingung, suzuki ini agak salah kaprah nih.
Baleno itu dari awal adalah sebuah sedan.
Kali ini jadi sedan rasa crossover atau crossover rasa sedan.
Sebutan/benefit karakter bahwa sx4 (&juga baleno) sebuah 'Crossover' itu cuma karena beda groundclearance sedikit mm? hmm, ini juga masih kalah deh dari Livina/GL, Oow come on....
SX2 kali ya.
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hahahaha! hanya sebagai nama saja... tidak ada hubungan nya dgn 4x4.
the cross over sedan bisa lebih menjual... karena ground clr. yg (termasuk) tinggi...
@ om €lj€p€ : topic pertanyaan ini sudah pernah muncul dari jaman baleno nextG (aerio sedan) di forum US/Aussie/British dan India. (year 2003-till now).

seperti, baleno nextG... di US dikenal sebagai aerio sedan, mereka juga bingung dimasukan ke sedan or SUV, karena bodynya yg gambot... dan tinggi, but not ground clr. yg tinggi... karena dengan bodykit pabrikan (not custom) justru jadi the lowest ground clr. sedan-SUV.

justru, kenapa di sini dberi nama baleno dari awal jaman nextG? secara nextG mempunyai body yg sama dengan aerio hatchback dan mesin pun sama (M15A), dan ujung2nya... malah dipertanyakan oleh forum luar, why different? aerio, dude!
so, this is SX4 sedan, not neo baleno... and it's just a name.

for note, saya pernah menanyakan ini ke suzuki melalui email... dari tahun 2004 sampai saat ini belum ada jawaban, well... not a big deal, coz i had the answer for sure. :)
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thx utk infonya, lgs m'luncur ke senci sabtu ini ah :D
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gw ud pesen Neo Baleno MT warna burgundy haha.. gara2 ngeliat tu sedan + jok kulit dgn warna sama di senci. burgundynya lux bgttt..

pas test drive seh gw ngga ngerasain problem gigi 1 nya SX4 yg byk dipost disini.

moga2 pilihan warna gw tepat (sempet mabok mau ambil burgundy apa black) hehehe :D
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warna sih bisa diganti bro ryo... bosen tinggal diguyur warna lain, white pearl oke juga... :P
makanya banyak juga yg ambil silver, dijadiin warna dasar buat ditembak putih nantinya... hehehe!

have fun ma boil baru deh...!
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@Ryosaeba:
indent berapa lama?
jgn lupa ulas FC dalkot nya yah.
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Bro soebaryo sama dengan warna mobil saya nanti. Jok kulit mobil saya nanti juga warnanya seperti itu tapi dengan rombakan model joknya n masih banyak yang saya rubah. Tapi ane punya matic. hehehe...Mobil neo baleno ga inden koq
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fotonya dong, naldo... belum diganti2 velg dll juga gapapa... hehehe!!
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bro naldo,

jok kulit yg warna burgundy itu (yg di pameran) kalo bole tau merk apa yah?
MB Tech bukan? :D
pengen pasang jok kulit jg haha...
eh bukan pengen ding, gw HARUS pasang jok kulit itu haha...
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Hmm... Bukan bro... itu sih kulit asli, cuma ga tau d bro mereknya apa. Bukan saya yang kerja si... hehehe...

Bro poetic, nanti aja kalau mobilnya udah jadi, masih banyak yang di rombak, sekalian kalau udah jadi masuk majalah... hehehe...
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SaebaRyo wrote:
naldo wrote:Harga bisa berbeda sekitar 5-10juta. Lumayan untuk upgrade audio-mesin... But features tetep sama, apa adanya sekarang...
bro naldo, yg sy baca2 di mjlh ktnya nanti SX4 SKD bakalan ada 2 versi yah?
Street & Crossover.
kalo diliat dr gambarnya sih bedanya di roof rail & bemper depan.

harga antara keduanya beda ngga bro?
murahan versi street maybe?
kasi bocoran dunk dikiiit hehehe :mrgreen:

bro SaebaRyo,

tanpa bermaksud mendahului kayanya saya tau 4 versi dr SX4.
Versi 1: SX4 seperti yg sdh ada skrg.
Versi 2: SX4 Streetline, ini polos tanpa roofrack dan cover spakbor.
Versi 3: SX4 dance, versi ini ada skidplate depan belakang seperti punya captiva. Ada side body mouldingnya warna hitam di ke-4 pintunya.
Versi 4: SX4 Limousine alias neo baleno.
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thx utk infonya bro Gandi :D
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ini sebenernya yg jadi pertanyaan saya selama ini...

kenapa dinamai baleno --- dari jaman nextG, padahal jelas2 itu aerio sedan...
diulang lagi SX4 sedan limo, dinamai neo baleno...

siapa sebenernya pencetus nerusin nama baleno? di forum dan club baleno pun NextG tidak terlalu dianggap... karena kebanyakan pengguna baleno adalah baleno millenium, alias baleno lama...
akhirnya rata2 pengguna baleno NextG saya sarankan utk gabung ke forum aerio, lebih pas... daripada ke forum baleno, bisu semua...

dan, akhirnya pun, neo baleno tidak akan cocok di baleno forum or gabung di club baleno... maaf, utk BCI... saya ga punya maksud buruk... lihat lah kenyataan nya... so, no need buat bangga neo baleno keluar... coz saya sendiri pemakai baleno nextG dan tidak merasa ada kebanggaan sendiri neo baleno launching...
tapi saya yakin, pengguna neo baleno akan gabung juga di forum SX4.

maaf kalo saya terkesan OOT, tell me jika harus buat thread baru about this... if there's any baleno thread before, i will move this comment to it... thanks guys!
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oya satu lagi... RyoSaeba sama SaebaRyo sama ga nih? ada 2 account ya? hehe sori kalo salah...
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ryosaeba bukan gw
gw ngga ada double account kok :D

di forum apapun yg gw join pasti pake nick ini (saeba ryo)
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SX4 diaku2 sebagai 1st x-over di indo

salah besar. yg pertama itu mercy R class.. tp emang gak gembar gembor kayak SX4 -_-
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R350-R500 dengan banderol 1,sekian... hehehe! itu mah bukan x-over... tapi over budget! hahaha j/k.

@SaebaRyo : hohoho! kalo gitu elo punya sodara disini... RyoSaeba. :D
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tetep aja. premium x-over hehehe
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tapi buat gw, R class masih lebih mirip "sporty" minivan (spt odyssey) dibanding Xover walaupun diclaim Xover oleh MB.
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R class bukan sebuah crossover, melainkan dari konsep namanya pertamanya yang di sebut: GST/ grand sports tourer. Yang bearti mempunyai keprktisan dan kebesaran seperti MPV, naikkan seperti sedan dan bisa dibawa kemana saja dengan ground clearance seperti SUV. Jadi MPV, Sedan dan SUV di gabung menjadi satu, jadilah R-class/GST.
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xeniavanza tuh x-over... :lol:
Mikrolet(kijang kapsul) juga....real x-over :mrgreen:
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Iya aneh juga ya..masalah penamaan produk suzuki.
Di saat merk lain mempertahankan nama produk nya sptnya "civic" "corolla" "accord" "kijang", dsb
Suzuki selalu merubah2 nama(aset nih) yg sudah dipopulerkannya, spt :

Swift => Forsa => Amenity => Eleny =>...... Aerio? ==> balik lagi ke Swift.......
Vitara => escudo => + sidekick => escudo2.0 (lagi) + grand Escudo => grand "Vitara" (lagi)...nanti maybe aja ada "Sidekick" or "Escudo" lagi nih....
Carry => futura => +APV ==>> ........... bakal balik ke Carry lagi ???
Esteem => baleno => baleno millenium => baleno next G => "Neo" Baleno ==> ......nanti ada Esteem lagi???