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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_sensor

Failure of these sensors, either through normal aging, the use of leaded fuels, or fuel contaminated with silicones or silicates, for example, can lead to damage of an automobile's catalytic converter and expensive repairs.

darimana asal silicone dan silicate nya ya?
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ZombiEE wrote:Coba diuplot dulu foto apanja legendaris nya:)
Jangan2 kendaraan ak4ng malah Yaris itu yah...? :e-think: :e-think:
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VanzMatic wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Coba diuplot dulu foto apanja legendaris nya:)
Jangan2 kendaraan ak4ng malah Yaris itu yah...? :e-think: :e-think:
Jangan2 itu yaris malah punya tetangga yg sebelahnya lagi :upss:
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ilhami wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_sensor

Failure of these sensors, either through normal aging, the use of leaded fuels, or fuel contaminated with silicones or silicates, for example, can lead to damage of an automobile's catalytic converter and expensive repairs.

darimana asal silicone dan silicate nya ya?
ilhami wrote:gas buang terlalu busuk tu makanya merusak O2 sensor :upss:
kalo lihat warnanya (coklat kekuningan), mirip gejala busi yg kena lead poisoning (akibat bbm ga bagus/ terlalu tinggi cemaran logamnya)
itu mungkin yg bikin sensor ngadat

bisa jadi kebanyakan premium atau pakai additif.... :e-think:

hati-hati hapanjanya juga...yg dibilang "cukup premium" :e-whistle: bisa-bisa kena penyakit yang sama :e-whistle:
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@imsus2c: lead poisoning.. berarti disinyalir, bensin yang dipakai mengandung timbal pak?
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nescafe wrote:@imsus2c: lead poisoning.. berarti disinyalir, bensin yang dipakai mengandung timbal pak?
terjemahan harfiah-nya..iya
tapi saya cenderung mengartikannya cemaran logam
karena ada beberapa jenis logam lain yg bisa ngerusak perangkat ini selain timbal (lead/TEL)
misalnya mangan, biasanya mangan ini banyak dijadikan campuran OB yang murmer dan efektif (MMT)

lihat aja di kemasan OB, umumnya mencantumkan MMT (Methylcyclopentadienyl Manganese Tricarbonyl) sebagai bahan aktifnya

kalo rajin pakai OB yg ada kandungan MMT-nya, coba perhatikan keramik elektroda businya, biasanya warnanya merah/coklat kekuningan
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Ane tambahin ye...kbykan aditif tuh mengandung mmt,,,yg kaga mengandung mmt harga nya ajubile....‎​ªkªkªkªkª =)) ªkªkªkªkª™
@ilhami: kalo ane tidak salah, silica dan silicate mgkn dr debu...cmiiw
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ZombiEE wrote:Ane tambahin ye...kbykan aditif tuh mengandung mmt,,,yg kaga mengandung mmt harga nya ajubile....‎​ªkªkªkªkª =)) ªkªkªkªkª™
@ilhami: kalo ane tidak salah, silica dan silicate mgkn dr debu...cmiiw
alternatif yg ga ada kandungan MMT/logam, sekalian aja pake oktan tinggi by default, atau sekalian racing fuel :upss:

pernah dulu iseng2 hitung (saat bbm non subsidi 9000an/L), premium+OB mahal (non logam), jatuhnya sama atau malah lebih mahal dibanding yg memang aslinya sudah oktan tinggi
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ZombiEE wrote:Kang.
....kenapa o2 sensor nya rusak?gejalanya apa?
teka-teki mulai terjawab nih sepertinya...cmiiw

sensornya rusak karena kebanyakan premium busuk atau overdosis OB :upss:
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;):Dhέhέhέ;);)hέhέhέ:D;)™ kalo saya mah seperti yg bang imsus sebutkan aja, drpd pakai aditif bagusan pakai bensin dgn oktan memadai...lain crita kalo mobil dijadikan transpor harian....bisa sobek tuh dompet...‎​ªkªkªkªkª =)) ªkªkªkªkª™
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@jombie + pak imsus: ooh oke2.. trimakasih sudah menjalaskan :D

kalau saya mengikuti bang jombie saja, pakai bensin dengan oktan yang memadai sesuai yang diminta dgn spesifikasi mobil
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Sip(y)™‎​‎​ dah..mari seruput kopi itam legam dolo..monggo....
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ayo bang, kita ngupi dulu,, :beer:
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Yuk....
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nescafe wrote:@jombie + pak imsus: ooh oke2.. trimakasih sudah menjalaskan :D

kalau saya mengikuti bang jombie saja, pakai bensin dengan oktan yang memadai sesuai yang diminta dgn spesifikasi mobil
selain oktan, rasanya juga penting untuk memperhatikan "kualitas" bbm itu sendiri, maksudnya dari cemaran bahan2 lain apalagi logam, karena sebenarnya inilah masalah utama rusaknya perangkat-perangkat tadi :D
dan kalo memang bener sensor O2-nya rusak karena cemaran logam (lead poisoning), perlu diperhatikan juga kondisi Catalytic Converter-nya, karena bisa aja sudah menular kesana
coba dilihat dulu aja busi-nya :D
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Ane pernah mendengar mekanik cerita, kalo misalkan pakai pertamax, pengapian berarti dimajukan karena mesin di set utk meminum bensin, jadi mesin agak panas, kalo dioperasikan dgn berat akan menyebabkan CC flaking dan akhirnya keisep mesin dan membuat mesin stalled, maka itu disarankan memakai bensin supaya mobil nya tidak memajukan pengapian sendirian......ane tidak tau itu bener atau tidak, tp rasanya susah dipercaya....
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sdikit nambahin info soal sensor oksigen ini... ane perna ngobrol ama kabeng yoyota, katanya sensor ini jg bisa cepet rusak kalo seandainya sistem supply bbm nya ada masalah... misalnya injector yg nyemprot bensin nya uda kaya kencing... alias bikin bensin yg dimuncratin ke ruang bakar jadi kelewat "kaya" nahh ini residu2 sisa bensin yg "kaya" tsb jg bisa bikin sensor oksigen tsb rusak... makanya musti rajin2 ngecek injector... yahhh tentu selaen item2 yg uda disebutin master meenner imsus diatas...
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ZombiEE wrote:Ane pernah mendengar mekanik cerita, kalo misalkan pakai pertamax, pengapian berarti dimajukan karena mesin di set utk meminum bensin, jadi mesin agak panas, kalo dioperasikan dgn berat akan menyebabkan CC flaking dan akhirnya keisep mesin dan membuat mesin stalled, maka itu disarankan memakai bensin supaya mobil nya tidak memajukan pengapian sendirian......ane tidak tau itu bener atau tidak, tp rasanya susah dipercaya....
saya juga agak susah percaya/melogika, karena:
- bukankah secara default, mesin sekarang memang di-set untuk oktan 92 (setara pertamax)?
- kalopun "bisa" premium, itu kan menyesuaikan dengan adanya knocking sensor? artinya untuk premium (oktan 88) bukan di settingan default
- CC bukannya di exhaust? trus gimana caranya bisa ke-isep ke mesin? mungkin kalopun flaking/kotor, adanya "menyumbat" buangan

imo, menurut logika saya yang masih harus banyak dikoreksi, ini semacam paradoks...

- untuk bekerja optimal, CC dan sensor O2 juga butuh temperatur kerja layaknya mesin..., di kondisi "dingin", keduanya kurang optimal
- CC bekerja dengan sistem katalis, untuk mengkonversi gas buang berbahaya...jadi bukan "menyaring"
- daya konversi katalis ini, tentu ada limitnya...jika gas buang terlalu kotor/banyak cemaran, layaknya mesin, kinerja CC juga jadi overload yang akhirnya overheat (flaking? clogging?)
- penggunaan pertamax, tentunya mesin jadi panas (karena energi dan kompresinya tinggi) dibanding mesin konvensional yg kompresi rendag, tapi...imo, tentunya masih "normal" karena sudah di-set dan dirancang pabrikan kalo temperatur kerja optimalnya segitu
- kalo pake premium, mungkin temperatur mesin jadi lebih dingin, tapi jika premiumnya kotor, justru akan membuat suhu CC meningkat karena overload menyaring gas buang, dibanding jika memakai bbm bagus

silakan dikoreksi :D
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DOHC wrote:sdikit nambahin info soal sensor oksigen ini... ane perna ngobrol ama kabeng yoyota, katanya sensor ini jg bisa cepet rusak kalo seandainya sistem supply bbm nya ada masalah... misalnya injector yg nyemprot bensin nya uda kaya kencing... alias bikin bensin yg dimuncratin ke ruang bakar jadi kelewat "kaya" nahh ini residu2 sisa bensin yg "kaya" tsb jg bisa bikin sensor oksigen tsb rusak... makanya musti rajin2 ngecek injector... yahhh tentu selaen item2 yg uda disebutin master meenner imsus diatas...
itu juga salah satu penyebabnya...emisi HC terlalu tinggi :D
tapi emisi HC (bbm yg tidak terbakar), jika kualitas bbm-nya bagus, biasanya warnanya hitam :e-think:
di foto yg dikasih akang, kalo saya lihat warnanya coklat kekuningan, jadi emisi HC mungkin bagus, makanya saya curiga jangan2 bbm-nya yg ga bagus atau overdosis OB logam :D

dan bukan hanya sensor O2, tingginya HC juga bisa bikin CC rusak loh, dan rasanya itu jauh lebih mahal dibanding sensor O2...
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Kalau terlalu panas, bisa pecah dan keisep mesin sih setau saya, secara mesin kan ada efek scavenging....cmiiw....
Tapi bukannya pakai secara logika premium lebih panas karena mesin kerja lebih keras karena knock sensor mengirim sinyal me retard pengapian mesin?cmiiw
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imsus2c wrote:
ilhami wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_sensor

Failure of these sensors, either through normal aging, the use of leaded fuels, or fuel contaminated with silicones or silicates, for example, can lead to damage of an automobile's catalytic converter and expensive repairs.

darimana asal silicone dan silicate nya ya?
ilhami wrote:gas buang terlalu busuk tu makanya merusak O2 sensor :upss:
kalo lihat warnanya (coklat kekuningan), mirip gejala busi yg kena lead poisoning (akibat bbm ga bagus/ terlalu tinggi cemaran logamnya)
itu mungkin yg bikin sensor ngadat

bisa jadi kebanyakan premium atau pakai additif.... :e-think:

hati-hati hapanjanya juga...yg dibilang "cukup premium" :e-whistle: bisa-bisa kena penyakit yang sama :e-whistle:
Hadeh..... padahal sempet 2x isi Biopremium nihh.. gara2 Bioperta ngelonjak jadi 9.250/liter.... Huuu..huhuhu....

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imsus2c wrote:
nescafe wrote:@jombie + pak imsus: ooh oke2.. trimakasih sudah menjalaskan :D

kalau saya mengikuti bang jombie saja, pakai bensin dengan oktan yang memadai sesuai yang diminta dgn spesifikasi mobil
selain oktan, rasanya juga penting untuk memperhatikan "kualitas" bbm itu sendiri, maksudnya dari cemaran bahan2 lain apalagi logam, karena sebenarnya inilah masalah utama rusaknya perangkat-perangkat tadi :D
dan kalo memang bener sensor O2-nya rusak karena cemaran logam (lead poisoning), perlu diperhatikan juga kondisi Catalytic Converter-nya, karena bisa aja sudah menular kesana
coba dilihat dulu aja busi-nya :D
hmm,, berarti.. kalau ngisi bensin, liat2 dulu donk pom bensinnya pak? :roll:
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nescafe wrote:
imsus2c wrote:
nescafe wrote:@jombie + pak imsus: ooh oke2.. trimakasih sudah menjalaskan :D

kalau saya mengikuti bang jombie saja, pakai bensin dengan oktan yang memadai sesuai yang diminta dgn spesifikasi mobil
selain oktan, rasanya juga penting untuk memperhatikan "kualitas" bbm itu sendiri, maksudnya dari cemaran bahan2 lain apalagi logam, karena sebenarnya inilah masalah utama rusaknya perangkat-perangkat tadi :D
dan kalo memang bener sensor O2-nya rusak karena cemaran logam (lead poisoning), perlu diperhatikan juga kondisi Catalytic Converter-nya, karena bisa aja sudah menular kesana
coba dilihat dulu aja busi-nya :D
hmm,, berarti.. kalau ngisi bensin, liat2 dulu donk pom bensinnya pak? :roll:
kalo saya pribadi sih, iya...
punya langganan spbu :D
toh pakai mobil kan sebagaian besar bisa dijadwalkan (pemakaian, tujuan, isi bbm, dsb...)
kalo buat saya, jarang sekali dijalan sampai kehabisan bensin dan bingung musti cari spbu yg mana
bahkan untuk spbu luar kota pun saya juga punya daftar langganan spbu :D maklum, kan sering tarikan AKAP :mrgreen:
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