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Namanya juga mobil buat cari duit... Jadi mesti gesit n seradak-seruduk gitu... Biar dapet duitnya banyak yah bro, he..he... Lagian kalo mobil karatan ada bagusnya juga jadi mobil laen ogah deket2 takut ketularan, hi...hi...
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Hansen wrote:
nescafe wrote:
buatandi wrote:justru ane mauny awet mulu bro mandala!!
tapi karat sudah di mana2 :oops:
hmmmm :big_slap:
kalo ada bro mandala pasti ada bro sjamsul...... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
pak mandala sama pak sjamsul udah jd soulmate sejati... :agrue:
emoticonnya harusnya pake yg ini nes --> :love:


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wakka bisa aj bro mandala :big_smoking:
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nescafe wrote:

nah, udah berkarat tp bawanya asal sruduk gmana tuh ndi?? ga bahaya??
yang berkarat blom smua nes
baru dikit2 aj di pintu sedikit di body sedikit
yah kira2 begitulah mobil da 19 tahun nes :off_man:
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Sebaiknya ntu mobil taon depan pas ultah ke twenty mesti di kasih hadiah tuh bro, di poles pake paket perawatan lengkap dari meguiras + detailing, nah yg karatnya biarin ga usah diapa2in biar terkesan oldfashion gitu... He....he....
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@nescafe & hansen:

belon aja seh, rambutnye ane bikin kribo.................. hiahahaha........ :big_weee: :big_weee:
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mandala1 wrote:Namanya juga mobil buat cari duit... Jadi mesti gesit n seradak-seruduk gitu... Biar dapet duitnya banyak yah bro, he..he... Lagian kalo mobil karatan ada bagusnya juga jadi mobil laen ogah deket2 takut ketularan, hi...hi...
wah saya seneng mobil2 karatan, bro... biasanya saya culik ke tempat cat saya trus todong invoice... :big_peace:
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ada engine flush..., ada injector/carb cleaner...,

trus kalo yg dimaksud engine conditioner tu buat apaan yah? :e-think:

secara kalo boil sy selesai tune up di bengkel, di kuitansi-nya ada tagihan engine conditioner 1 kaleng :e-think:
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imsus2c wrote:ada engine flush..., ada injector/carb cleaner...,

trus kalo yg dimaksud engine conditioner tu buat apaan yah? :e-think:

secara kalo boil sy selesai tune up di bengkel, di kuitansi-nya ada tagihan engine conditioner 1 kaleng :e-think:
untuk lbh jelasnya, silahkan tanyakan langsung ke bengkel langganan anda................ beressss tohhhhhh................ hahahaha......... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Engine conditioner buat mengangkat kerak pada combustion chamber. Cara pakainya dengan disemprot lewat lubang busi. Daya bersihnya lebih keras daripada carb cleaner.
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ya nampaknya engine conditioner pilihan praktis untuk membersihkan bagian internal mesin, selain turun 1/2 mesin,,, :e-think:
Permisii :ungg: ............................. :ngacir:
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ane sigh ga demen pake bgituan bro... takut aja gt ntar bikin seal2 injector jadi getas... atau malah kena sensor2 di mesin atau TB... mendingan isi bensin skali2 full tank pertamax plus, lalu masuk tol, matiin AC, dan nyetir kaya kesurupan rifat sungkar sambil ganti gigi pas dengerin suara mesin uda kaya ala mobil F1....
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sjamsul wrote:
imsus2c wrote:ada engine flush..., ada injector/carb cleaner...,

trus kalo yg dimaksud engine conditioner tu buat apaan yah? :e-think:

secara kalo boil sy selesai tune up di bengkel, di kuitansi-nya ada tagihan engine conditioner 1 kaleng :e-think:
untuk lbh jelasnya, silahkan tanyakan langsung ke bengkel langganan anda................ beressss tohhhhhh................ hahahaha......... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
jangan lari meneer.... :snipersmile: :2gunfire: .......................................... :ngacir:
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TUFF Stough wrote:Engine conditioner buat mengangkat kerak pada combustion chamber. Cara pakainya dengan disemprot lewat lubang busi. Daya bersihnya lebih keras daripada carb cleaner.
Oo... begitu ya...

kalo engine flush dituang ke dalam mesin lewat lubang pengisian oli, kalo injector cleaner lewat TB, kalo engine conditioner lewat lubang busi.... :e-think:

jadi engine conditioner mirip2 sedot/bersihin kerak yg model "spirit" gitu yah?

Btw, kalo setiap tune up, 3 cara ini dilakukan (flush, cleaner dan conditioner), apa ga terlalu berlebihan tuh? :e-think:
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Re: Perlukah penggunaan engine flush, injector cleaner/carbjet ?

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imsus2c wrote:
sjamsul wrote:
imsus2c wrote:ada engine flush..., ada injector/carb cleaner...,

trus kalo yg dimaksud engine conditioner tu buat apaan yah? :e-think:

secara kalo boil sy selesai tune up di bengkel, di kuitansi-nya ada tagihan engine conditioner 1 kaleng :e-think:
untuk lbh jelasnya, silahkan tanyakan langsung ke bengkel langganan anda................ beressss tohhhhhh................ hahahaha......... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
jangan lari meneer.... :snipersmile: :2gunfire: .......................................... :ngacir:
ampuuuunnnnnn om imsus............. anenya ga lari sih, cuma sekedar kaboerrrrr ajah......................... hahaha....... Image
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imsus2c wrote:
TUFF Stough wrote:Engine conditioner buat mengangkat kerak pada combustion chamber. Cara pakainya dengan disemprot lewat lubang busi. Daya bersihnya lebih keras daripada carb cleaner.
Oo... begitu ya...

kalo engine flush dituang ke dalam mesin lewat lubang pengisian oli, kalo injector cleaner lewat TB, kalo engine conditioner lewat lubang busi.... :e-think:

jadi engine conditioner mirip2 sedot/bersihin kerak yg model "spirit" gitu yah?

Btw, kalo setiap tune up, 3 cara ini dilakukan (flush, cleaner dan conditioner), apa ga terlalu berlebihan tuh? :e-think:
engine flush --> kalo bro rajin ganti oli tiap 5000 km, mending ga usa... ga guna dan buang2 duit aja... malah utk mobil yg uda lama, mending jangan dipake krn bisa bikin rembes oli dari seal2 packing nya....
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote: engine flush --> kalo bro rajin ganti oli tiap 5000 km, mending ga usa... ga guna dan buang2 duit aja... malah utk mobil yg uda lama, mending jangan dipake krn bisa bikin rembes oli dari seal2 packing nya....
Ya, saya turut mengamini pendapat oom DOHC .... :frm_tumbleft:
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ikut amin juga ah... :mrgreen:

tapi ya susah juga....secara kalo masuk bengkel buat tune up, mobil saya tinggal trus diambil kalo dah keluar, jadi ga tau diapain aja tuh mobilnya, main percaya aja :shrug:

yg jelas di kuitansinya ada tagihan engine conditioner dan injector cleaner :e-think:
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DOHC wrote:
imsus2c wrote:
TUFF Stough wrote:Engine conditioner buat mengangkat kerak pada combustion chamber. Cara pakainya dengan disemprot lewat lubang busi. Daya bersihnya lebih keras daripada carb cleaner.
Oo... begitu ya...

kalo engine flush dituang ke dalam mesin lewat lubang pengisian oli, kalo injector cleaner lewat TB, kalo engine conditioner lewat lubang busi.... :e-think:

jadi engine conditioner mirip2 sedot/bersihin kerak yg model "spirit" gitu yah?

Btw, kalo setiap tune up, 3 cara ini dilakukan (flush, cleaner dan conditioner), apa ga terlalu berlebihan tuh? :e-think:
engine flush --> kalo bro rajin ganti oli tiap 5000 km, mending ga usa... ga guna dan buang2 duit aja... malah utk mobil yg uda lama, mending jangan dipake krn bisa bikin rembes oli dari seal2 packing nya....
setuju, ini ada video tanya jawab, ada bagian yang ngebahas engine flush, awalnya ngebahas periode penggantian oli transmisi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ATk8TIx_-Y

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imsus2c wrote:ikut amin juga ah... :mrgreen:

tapi ya susah juga....secara kalo masuk bengkel buat tune up, mobil saya tinggal trus diambil kalo dah keluar, jadi ga tau diapain aja tuh mobilnya, main percaya aja :shrug:

yg jelas di kuitansinya ada tagihan engine conditioner dan injector cleaner :e-think:
setau saya sigh, yg namanya engine conditioner, injector cleaner, dan engine flush itu optional bro.. alias bukan perawatan utama.. kecuali beres dari atpm tsb uda mengeluarkan produk resmi mereka atas masing2 cairan tsb (yg ampe ari ini blom ada tuh setau saya atpm yg kluarin produk2 tsb dgn dilabel merek atpm mereka)... nahh karena itu hanya sebatas optional maka kita berhak utk menolak nya dan garansi mesin tidak hangus (ini saya uda konfirmasi dgn atpm nissan, honda dan toyota)...

cuman kadang emang beres itu rada bandel.. jadi kita meleng dikit kaga ngomong tau2 dimasukin smua... apalagi beres h*nda (sengaja saya sensor biar para fans nya kaga ngamuk disini :mrgreen: ), ganti oli aja maen campurin engine flush tanpa bilang2, malah dulu waktu saya ganti swing arm aja d kuitansi ada tagihan anti karat, nah logh anti karat apaan, saya tanya aja, ehh montir nya maen tunjuk sembarangan, ampe akhirnya saya ngotot2 an ama manager nya baru akhirnya dihapus tuh...
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DOHC wrote:
setau saya sigh, yg namanya engine conditioner, injector cleaner, dan engine flush itu optional bro.. alias bukan perawatan utama.. kecuali beres dari atpm tsb uda mengeluarkan produk resmi mereka atas masing2 cairan tsb (yg ampe ari ini blom ada tuh setau saya atpm yg kluarin produk2 tsb dgn dilabel merek atpm mereka)... nahh karena itu hanya sebatas optional maka kita berhak utk menolak nya dan garansi mesin tidak hangus (ini saya uda konfirmasi dgn atpm nissan, honda dan toyota)...

cuman kadang emang beres itu rada bandel.. jadi kita meleng dikit kaga ngomong tau2 dimasukin smua... apalagi beres h*nda (sengaja saya sensor biar para fans nya kaga ngamuk disini :mrgreen: ), ganti oli aja maen campurin engine flush tanpa bilang2, malah dulu waktu saya ganti swing arm aja d kuitansi ada tagihan anti karat, nah logh anti karat apaan, saya tanya aja, ehh montir nya maen tunjuk sembarangan, ampe akhirnya saya ngotot2 an ama manager nya baru akhirnya dihapus tuh...
Haha.. Sama nih mod di beres sijuki jg gitu. Main masukin engine flush aja pas genti oli :upss:
Tau nya pas di rumah liat bon nya. Lah kok ini ada engine flush. Tololnya lagi filter oli ga diganti :off_no:
Langsung bsknya ane kuras lagi tuh oli di SnD sekalian ganti filternya. Ujung2nya keluar duit lagi deh :off_bored:
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DOHC wrote:[

engine flush --> kalo bro rajin ganti oli tiap 5000 km, mending ga usa... ga guna dan buang2 duit aja... malah utk mobil yg uda lama, mending jangan dipake krn bisa bikin rembes oli dari seal2 packing nya....
Ganti oli 10.000 Km asal oli Full Synth en gak lebih dr 12 bulan juga mesin tetap bersih

Btw engine flush yg murah2 mostly isinya mostly kerosene............jadi tinggal dibayangin aja dah.......berarti kalo karter dah berkerak ya campur aja oli SAE 10 dgn Kerosene....jadilah EF

See :
http://www.the-independents-choice.co.u ... G62290.PDF

http://www.the-independents-choice.co.u ... G61150.PDF

http://www.anglomoil.com/msds/MSDS%20EN ... USH%20.pdf
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@om Turbo: Kalo oli mesin pernah kemasukan air sampe warnanya coklat susu, cukup ganti oli & disemprot angin kompresor atau harus juga dikasi EF nggak om?
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dream_theater wrote:@om Turbo: Kalo oli mesin pernah kemasukan air sampe warnanya coklat susu, cukup ganti oli & disemprot angin kompresor atau harus juga dikasi EF nggak om?
coba share pengalaman aja.

mesin ane pernah kerendem air, tapi saat itu warna oli tidak sampai berubah dan volume juga gak bertambah, tapi untuk mencegah hal yang tidak diinginkan oli mesin ane ganti setelah diganti malahan oli berubah menjadi putih susu setelah mesin dipanaskan, nah hal yang ane lakukan ganti oli lagi pake oli yang biasa lalu mesin dipanaskan lagi lalu buang lagi baru masuk oli bagus.
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