Irreasonable harga Innova Baru - PART 01

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Kalo SL nya om kopat sih asep nya depan belakang........dari knalpot iya....dari radiator iya.... :upss: :big_weee:
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tiap hari pulang pergi rumah-kantor diasepin mulu, sama bajaj, metromini, mikrolet, dll, mau gimana lagi macet2an pasti diasepin telak sama yg depan, xixixiii...

kalo kijang itu emang gak bisa lari, apalagi ketemu sama trotoar yg rumputnya segar, pasti maunya minggir merumput dulu, namanya juga kijang
ooopss.. ampun oot lagi yah

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Prive wrote:tiap hari pulang pergi rumah-kantor diasepin mulu, sama bajaj, metromini, mikrolet, dll, mau gimana lagi macet2an pasti diasepin telak sama yg depan, xixixiii...

kalo kijang itu emang gak bisa lari, apalagi ketemu sama trotoar yg rumputnya segar, pasti maunya minggir merumput dulu, namanya juga kijang
ooopss.. ampun oot lagi yah

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Prive wrote:tiap hari pulang pergi rumah-kantor diasepin mulu, sama bajaj, metromini, mikrolet, dll, mau gimana lagi macet2an pasti diasepin telak sama yg depan, xixixiii...

kalo kijang itu emang gak bisa lari, apalagi ketemu sama trotoar yg rumputnya segar, pasti maunya minggir merumput dulu, namanya juga kijang
ooopss.. ampun oot lagi yah

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Peraturan baru kijang ga boleh lewat tol lho..... :e-naughty:
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tau nih... bangga banget sih ngasepin kijang doang... qeqeqeqe...

BTT, dollar lg rendah nii... mgkn gak TAM ngasih diskon lg buat mobil2nya?? kalo mitsu sih jangan tanya... dikasih diskon gede jg penjualannya tetep susah.... br kebantu ama PS aja nih yang fresh... qeqeqeqe
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sjamsul wrote:
Prive wrote:tiap hari pulang pergi rumah-kantor diasepin mulu, sama bajaj, metromini, mikrolet, dll, mau gimana lagi macet2an pasti diasepin telak sama yg depan, xixixiii...

kalo kijang itu emang gak bisa lari, apalagi ketemu sama trotoar yg rumputnya segar, pasti maunya minggir merumput dulu, namanya juga kijang
ooopss.. ampun oot lagi yah

hihiiiii... :big_slap:
hmm...... kasian juga ya......... (pura2 aja)....... wakakakaka......... peace bro.......jk............

kijang........ emang tiada duanya................................. :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: .....................
untung kijang ane udah dijual.....skrg pake inova...... :e-whistle:
wehh..gk tahunya inova itu kijang juga yah..... :big_slap: :big_slap:

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FortunerMan wrote:Kijang Innova pickup ada, namanya Hilux. Memang naik kelas.
oo..

imho, hilux spt nya lebih ke 42ner kemiripannya, ipah tampangnya mirip avanza skala kecil.

kalo kijang dulu sejak yg doyok, tampang versi penumpang dgn mikrolet/pick up sama.
ipah & hilux lumayan beda, ancestornya juga beda, walaupun ujung2nya generasi imv ini disamain basis nya.

berarti yg ipah mikrolet blm ada...
yang saya notice...ternyata pcd pelek hilux pikap n 42ner ternyata beda...
Yang Hilux single cab sama ama Innova, lubang 5. Yg Hilux D-Cab sama ama Fortuner, lubang 6. Semuanya berasal dari Hilux platform.
http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/strategy/imv/index.html

Nih pelek Fortie aja dipake di Hilux Europe - apa pelek Hilux dipake Fortie...gitu lah...
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IMHO juga ya,

Innova sama Hilux gak beda ancestornya. Innova itu memang Hilux (pickup) yang dijadikan MPV. Sama seperti kijang dulu. Dr pickup jadi MPV. Itu kenapa namanya tetep kijang innova.

Kenapa harus ada innova (IMV)? kenapa gak terusin aja produk kijang lokal kaya dulu?
tanya TAM!! kalo menurut pendapat gw yang low bgt di bidang otomotif ini, alesannya ada 2.. cost reduction (bikin model global lebih murah) & kenaikan kelas kijang...

nah, dari sini ada 2 opini..
opini expert: kijang itu adalah mobil pickup yang dijadikan MPV. maka Innova adalah kijang.
opini awam: kijang itu mobil yang "murah", bandel, awet, dll. Disini pun kebagi 2. Kalo cuman liat bandel dan awet aja, maka innova itu kijang. Tapi kalo liat "murah", karena relatif, maka ada yg bilang innova bukan kijang..


Ya semuanya bener koq.. buat apa diributin sii... kalo cucok ya beli.. ndak cucok ya tinggalkan... emangnya kita dibayar ama ATPM buat beli n make mobil yang kita pakai sekarang?? hehehe...
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IMHO, seandainya body 42ner dipasang di sasis hilux pikap, tetap dlm formasi 7 seater tapi GC agak rendah seperti hilux pikap dan tetap mempertahankan per daun dibelakang.....bagi saya itu lebih "Kijang" :mrgreen:
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datsu wrote:tau nih... bangga banget sih ngasepin kijang doang... qeqeqeqe...

BTT, dollar lg rendah nii... mgkn gak TAM ngasih diskon lg buat mobil2nya?? kalo mitsu sih jangan tanya... dikasih diskon gede jg penjualannya tetep susah.... br kebantu ama PS aja nih yang fresh... qeqeqeqe
Hmmmm..........rasanya berat sih ngarepin TAM ngasih diskon gede,, jualannya saklek banget dah kaya supermarket ajah ga boleh ditawar :upss:
PS sih gara2 masih baru ajah makanya KTB rada tahan harga, coba nanti kita liat 1 tahun kedepan berapa diskon nya :mrgreen:
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qeqeqeqe.. iya nih ooom dal... temen ane yang jualan di A2K slipi juga bilang, dollar turun gak ngefek ama diskon....
Diskon gede2an adanya cuman di akhir tahun buat ngabisin stock batch tahun ybs. huhuhuhu...

wah, oom dal mau ngambil PS kayanya tahun depan nih.. hehehe... :P
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^^amin....amin..... doa nya aja om datsu,, semoga panjang umur dan enteng jodoh.... Lho koq? :mrgreen:
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mandala1 wrote:^^amin....amin..... doa nya aja om datsu,, semoga panjang umur dan enteng jodoh.... Lho koq? :mrgreen:
enteng jodoh magsudnya..misalkan dapet jodohnya yang berat...kalo dibawa pake PS kan terasa ringan...gak harus di gendong2.... :upss:
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aldy wrote:Menurut ane wajar kalo TOKINOV boyo terutama jalan 100km/h keatas cz ini mobil keluarga lain lagi kalo sedan or sport car boyo,,baru malu2in tuh..

Bukannya Ipah justru diatas 100 km/h justru enak tarikannya. Justru Ipah jika di "geber penuh" diatas 100 km/h tanpa sadar speedo udah mencapai 160an km/h dan memang perlu "keberanian lebih" utk menggeber Ipah higgga Top Speed di level 180 km/h hingga 190 km/h.

Tetapi kembali ke status Ipah sbg MPV keluarga. Jika di Tol Ipah banyak dilewati Avanza, APV bahkan Carry bukannya Ipah nggak bisa "lari" tp krn "Sayang Keluarga" he he he.

Kalo yg penasaran Ipah nggak bisa lari, coba deh test drive Ipah anak2 IC (Innova Community) yg sering mangkal di Phoenix Racing - Serpong.
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Setuju dengan bro roadtrain99 nih ipah ccnya besar loh 2000cc..Ane yang ga habis pikir kenapa tuh mesin powernya cuma 136ps torsi ga sampe 200nm padahal tuh mesin haus bensin n cc gede..mestinya bisa diimprove tuh sama toyota power n torsinya tanpa nambah debit bensin banyak2..Just opinion..
Kalo menurut ane sih toyota juga jual aja Toyota Wish tapi harga dibawah 300 juta biar konsumen bisa pilih dua karakter mobil Kijang innova (si badak angkut banyak) or wish (smooth n powerfull n efficient)..qiqiqi :big_peace: :big_peace: ..Ane yakin kok pemilik nissan GL bakal pindah kelain hati alias wish termasuk ane..just my opinion..
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Wah kalo untuk top speed ane yakin ipah bisa jalan 180km/h cuma pertanyaannya berapa waktu buat nyampe kecepatan segitu belum lagi GC yg tinggi pasti limbung jalan segitu (nih ipah standard loh bro bukan modifan)..Kalo ane lihat sih dari dulu Gen kijang emang bukan untuk kecepatan tapi untuk mobil keluarga beneran..Karakter mesinnya aja torsi kuat Rpm bawah sampai tengah aja..
cz ane pernah inget ditol malem2 ada ipah bensin yang nantangin nissan GL ane jalan 140km/h ya ane dadahin lah..qiqiqi..No offense bro.. :big_peace: :big_peace:
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Setuju Bro Aldy, gw juga pengalaman pribadi bawa Ipah s/d 180 km/h. Peningkatan dari 160 s/d 180 km/h relatif lambat. Ipah ane masih standar semua.

Jgn dibandingkan GL vs Ipah di Tol. kelasnya beda "MPV sedan" vs "MPV beneran". Lagipula "serem" bawa Ipah diatas 160 km/h.

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UTAMAKAN SELAMAT, KELUARGA MENANTI DI RUMAH :big_peace:
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yoi oom dal....
yg bawa MPV masih pengen kenceng kelaut aja dee.. :P
yg mau kenceng banyak tuh sedan2 murah yang kenceng juga.. proton gen2 juga lumayan tuh.. :D

heran deh, topik MPV masih bahas top speed... :D

sekarang tanya deh, sama rata2 orang awam di indo.. kalo mau beli mobil buat keluarga, apa yg dipentingin?
1. Harga
2. Muat banyak sebanyak2nya tapi nyaman
3. Model keren, gak malu2in alias gak terlalu ngotak... :P
4. Kalo dibawa jarak jauh gak gampang mogok.
5. Kalo butuh spare part di tengah jalan bisa cari dimana2..
6. Kalo bisa sih kijang.. --> ini mah rada ngarang.. :D

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^^
stuju ama yg komen diatas ane... pake mpv kebut2 an, apalagi ngejar jarum ampe mentok pol ke kanan mah ke laut aja deh... no offence yah, cuman bahayain sendiri ama orang laen... bukan satu hal yg patut dibangga kan tuh..
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Hmmm.......tapi si om kopat pake APV (kotak) ngebut di cipularang n ngasepin toyota2 lain koq ga nyampe ke laut yah? :mrgreen:
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qeqeqeqe.... tunggu waktunya aja oom dal.. :p
kalo masih ada yang mikir MPV buat kebut2an todong suruh nyebur ke laut aja... :big_slap:
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mandala1 wrote:Hmmm.......tapi si om kopat pake APV (kotak) ngebut di cipularang n ngasepin toyota2 lain koq ga nyampe ke laut yah? :mrgreen:
karena di skitar cipularang kaga ada laut nya om meong...
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Setuju thd comment Bro Datsu, Mandala dan DOHC. Kritik diterima dgn baik. MPV bukan buat kebut2an. Kebetulan saat bawa Ipah 180 km/h, ane "terprovokasi" sama kondisi tol yg lagi benar2 kosong dan ada kesempatan utk menjajal kemampuan mesin Ipah.Faktor keselamatan diri dan orang lain sudah diperhitungkan kok. Alhamdulillah ane selamat dan "tidak nyebur ke laut" he he he.

Krn ane tau persis kemampuan Ipah, Sehingga ane tidak sependapat dgn comment2 yg bilang Ipah loyo & lelet, bisa dilewati APV, Avanza, dan Carry lah, dll. Itu bukannya Ipahnya "boyo" tp krn si Pengemudi Ipah memikirkan keselamatan diri, keluarga dan pengendara lain.

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