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jalu wrote:
BADAK wrote:imoga2 aja kalo nanti masuk indo, ispan mengusung teknologi yg lbh sebanding dengan innova.
kalo saya baca2 di milis2...ispanholic justru masih banyak yg ragu2 untuk hijrah ke inova disel...krn bagi mereka untuk apa disel canggih kalo benefitnya tidak lbh baik dibanding panther disel jadul...harga lbh mahal, perawatan lbh mahal, bbm lbh selektif tetapi konsumsinya tidak jauh lbh hemat (hampir sama).

no offence...... :big_peace:
Sama lah bro, gw jg tetep cinta ma panther jadul gw.
Kebetulan di rmh ada touring n D4D, tapi entah kenapa gw lebih pede kalo naek touring gw. Kesannya macho n garang, tarikan lbh responsif. Tapi tetap hrs diakui innova lebih kalem n tenang dibandingin panther.
Tapi siapa tau bro, isuzu mengeluarkan teknologi diesel lebih canggih tp FC masih tetap irit di kelasnya.
Wah pasti bakal jd seru lg neh.. :e-dance:
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kita tunggu aja om badak...kalo solar berkualitas di tanah air udah merata distribusinya mudah2an isuzu mengeluarkan mesin disel canggihnya untuk ispan....mempertahankan reputasi sebagai rajanya diesel... :e-dance:

hmm....sebenrnya kalo bbm mendukung...disel canggih semestinya jauh lbh ekonomis dibanding disel jadul dengan performa yg lbh baik....hanya yg terjadi disini beberapa ATPM terpaksa menurunkan potensi disel canggihnya untuk mengakomodasi solar lokal....akhirnya yg terjadi efisiensi blm sebanding dengan maintenance cost yg dikeluarkan....sementara efisensi vs maintenance cost adalah salah satu fokus para ispanholic.

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m4rio wrote:hmmm. biar bagaimanapun, saya tetep cinta ma panther saya nih, biar udah 9 tahun tuh mobil, juga ane tetep cinta bangett dahh... menurut ane ini mobil nyaman bgt kok, suara mesin juga gk terlalu nge-gerung bgt ah. kalo kestabilan sih mantap habis broo, berat bgt gitu loh.
stuju, kalo rajin ganti oli ama filternya trus pake oli yg berkualitas... biar kata km uda tinggi jg ga masalah, suara mesin jg kaga ngerung2 kenceng
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hard_joe wrote:hahaha ... hanya kepikiran doang mas rom, tapi gak deh ... enak bener nih mobil. kemaren pulkam bawa mobil lain, ini pinggang masih pegel2 ... blom adaptasi kali.
Pas naik panther lagi ... rasanya bener2 pas duduknya dan pas empuknya.
skrg lagi gak sreg sama :
1. Suspensi belakang .... kasian penumpang belakang.
2. ban belakang agak baling, gara2 telat ganti tie rod waktu posisi di depan.
3. kapan yah sempat pasang otomat buat firewall biar agak teredam sedikit suara mesin > 90 km/jam
1 dan 3 bisa dibantu mas... apalagi yg no.3, wekekeke! tapi saya pake checkmate premium. :)
itu yg kedua, baling gimana? ga rata maksudnya...? harus ganti ban dong? wah wah... kalo belum parah posisi dirubah saja mas, luar kedalam.
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poeticmind wrote:
hard_joe wrote:
1 dan 3 bisa dibantu mas... apalagi yg no.3, wekekeke! tapi saya pake checkmate premium. :)
itu yg kedua, baling gimana? ga rata maksudnya...? harus ganti ban dong? wah wah... kalo belum parah posisi dirubah saja mas, luar kedalam.
No. 1 kayaknya sih memang struktur nya bro, kecuali ada perbaikan dari isuzunya, soalnya dah coba ganti 2X macam per daun balik2nya ke aslinya lagi yg paling pas menurut saya ....
no. 2 solusinya hrs ganti ban, udah dibalik tetap baling, mana ban masih baru setaun ... masih sayang gantinya lagi.
No. 3 ini nih sebenarnya yg harus berkunjung ke garasi .... btw checkmat jauh lebih mahal dari otomat kayaknya bro? ....
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bro hard joe, bagi resep per daun nya donk... mana yg menurut bro plg pas, panther ane jg lagi mo rombak per nya... keras minta ampun soalnya..
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Per daun untuk Panther yang baru sangat keras (sepertinya mulai tahun 2005 keatas)
Saya pernah ganti per yang paling bawah dengan yang lebih tipis ... hasilnya lumayan empuk
Tetapi kalau di jalan yang bergelombang dengan kecepatan 60 KM sepertinya shockbeker nya gak meredam kayak terlalu empuk gitu ...
DOHC wrote:bro hard joe, bagi resep per daun nya donk... mana yg menurut bro plg pas, panther ane jg lagi mo rombak per nya... keras minta ampun soalnya..
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lah bro profith, kata bro pramuka (jalu) di tret sebelah katanya yg panther baru malah lebi empuk...

btw yg diganti yg per paling bawah dan pendek itu yah ?? itu kalo ane cabut skalian alias kaga dipake sama skali gmana tuh ??
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nah...ada yg bahas nih kebetulan....gmn nih om2 semua....mana yg lbh empuk antara old face dng face lift ? saya dikamar sebelah gak menyatakan facelift lbh empuk...tp yg punya facelift blm ada yang laporan...gitu aja.... :e-think:

please informasinya.... :big_peace:
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menurut gw koq jauh lebih empuk yg facelift ya.. :e-think:
dulu make yg kotak kalo ada lubang langsung deh suaranya GUBRAK!! :e-doh:
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mungkin yg facelift lebi berat, jadi per nya lebi ketekan...
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nah...jadi gmn ya..ada perbedaan testimoni gini ttg panter facelift ? :e-think:

IN MY DREAM = andaikan mesin isuzu panter dipasang dikijang kapsul..... kombinasi mesin ekonomis & handal + interior lbh bagus, kaki2 nyaman & kuat...... :ungg:

AFAIK...mesin toyota 2L tidak sehemat panther...tapi larinya lbh kenceng...itu testimoni saya....peace :beer:
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Saya pakai Panther 2005 Turbo type LS, saudara saya ada 2 yang pakai panther jenis yang sama.
Semua Panther jenis itu per belakangnya keras.
Jangan gak dipakai ... nanti bisa patah
Pakai Per yang lebih tipis saja ... kalau bisa tipisnya jangan berbeda terlalu banyak ... cuma 2-3 mili saja
Kalau terlalu banyak bisa ngayun ... bahaya di tol .. limbung
Kalau gantinyya khusus di tempat PER murqah sekali ... saya ganti PER sama ongkos pasang kalau tidak salah cuma 100 rb an kurang atau lebih dikit
DOHC wrote:lah bro profith, kata bro pramuka (jalu) di tret sebelah katanya yg panther baru malah lebi empuk...

btw yg diganti yg per paling bawah dan pendek itu yah ?? itu kalo ane cabut skalian alias kaga dipake sama skali gmana tuh ??
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nah dibawah yg per kesatu (paling panjang, yg hubung in kancing depan dan blakang) itu ane ada tambahin satu lembar lagi disitu, nah apa yg itu ane cabut aja yah.. trus yg di bawah ane ganti lebi tipis sesuai saran bro... nah kalo uda gt apa bisa lebi empuk bro ??

ane curiga yg bikin ntuh bantingan panther ane keras ajubileh gara2 tuh tuh per baris kedua nya... tapi sblom nya jg uda agak keras sigh...
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Saya dari aslinya cuma ganti PER yang paling bawah ... PER yang pendek itu Bro ...
diganti lebih tipis 2 mili aja biar masih bisa angkut barang + lebih empuk dikit.
Kalau terlalu empuk takutnya ngayun Bro
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DOHC wrote:nah dibawah yg per kesatu (paling panjang, yg hubung in kancing depan dan blakang) itu ane ada tambahin satu lembar lagi disitu, nah apa yg itu ane cabut aja yah.. trus yg di bawah ane ganti lebi tipis sesuai saran bro... nah kalo uda gt apa bisa lebi empuk bro ??

ane curiga yg bikin ntuh bantingan panther ane keras ajubileh gara2 tuh tuh per baris kedua nya... tapi sblom nya jg uda agak keras sigh...
nah..ada baiknya diposting foto per belakangnya...jadi om profit yang expert panther bisa menganalisa :big_peace:
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ok deh bro pramuka, tapi ane kaga bisa skrg foto nya, soalnya mobilnya lagi dipake kluar jawa, nanti kalo dah balik, ane fotoin deh...

@ bro keuntungan : nanti ane coba deh rombak lagi per nya.. thanks bro
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hmm...sebenernya saya suka iseng2 liat per belakang panter kapsul....ternyata komposisinya jarang yang sama, rata2 udah dirombak sama yg punya.... saya sendiri malah msh bingung yang orsinilnya seperti apa :roll:
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ke showroom panther aja bro pramuka, disitu masi orisinil tuh smuanya :upss: :upss:
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Gak perlu difoto ...
Langsung lihat ke kolong mobil ... nah PER daun yang paling dekat ke tanah yang diganti
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DOHC wrote:ke showroom panther aja bro pramuka, disitu masi orisinil tuh smuanya :upss: :upss:
malu ah omm..takut dituduh CLBK (Colek Liat Beli Kagak)...... :mrgreen:
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Profith83 wrote:Per daun untuk Panther yang baru sangat keras (sepertinya mulai tahun 2005 keatas)
Saya pernah ganti per yang paling bawah dengan yang lebih tipis ... hasilnya lumayan empuk
Tetapi kalau di jalan yang bergelombang dengan kecepatan 60 KM sepertinya shockbeker nya gak meredam kayak terlalu empuk gitu ...
DOHC wrote:bro hard joe, bagi resep per daun nya donk... mana yg menurut bro plg pas, panther ane jg lagi mo rombak per nya... keras minta ampun soalnya..
per belakang panther kalo pengalaman saya sih ...
1. ganti lebih empuk coba pake setaun.... terlalu mengayun ... driver sih enak aja plus asal jalannya pelan2 n gak muat penumpang banyak
kalo jalan di tol kasian penumpang ... makin mabok.
2. ganti lebih keras dari ori coba pake 4 bulan aja.... gubrak gubrak ... karet2 yg di per gampang ancur .... buat di tol gak ngayun banyak.
over all gak puas
balik lagi ke ori ... puas gak puas yg pasti lebih mengakomodasi keperluan jalan sendiri, muat banyak, dll

tapi bagaimanapun juga .... tetap kembali ke selera masing2 ..... :big_peace:
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Profith83 wrote:Gak perlu difoto ...
Langsung lihat ke kolong mobil ... nah PER daun yang paling dekat ke tanah yang diganti
yup, ane dah tau skrg, per yg paling pendek dan paling deket ke tanah itu...
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agan2 semua...
just share pengalaman ama Kuda punya bokap...

Kuda Diamond 2.5 Diesel, beli dari gress th 2002 hasil jokul Grand Extra gen1 + Biem 320i. Sampe sekarang, just ganti aki yg agak sering tekor (nasib beli aki emang gitu dah... :frm_bang_head: ), ganti filter oli, filter solar, en yang agak berat Timing belt plus tensioner. Laher kruk as ganti juga.... :e-doh: . After all... Most wanted!! Gw sempet pengen beli tuh Kuda Diesel bokap, secara dulu gue megang terus tuh boil, bokap cuman bilang,"Sory nak, ga bapak jual ke kamu... Kamu cari aja ndiri,.,.," :ungg: Ya sudah.... aku ambil aja AVG Matic.

Jalanan di Jogja kan ringroadnya ga sepanjang Tol di Jakarta.. jadi cuman sempet bejek gas Dieselnya ampe 145 kpj doank, kondisi AC + dobel blower on bareng bini... alhasil... :big_slap:

Spare parts kualiti ok, mahal dikit gapapah. Injektor alhamd ga pernah ganti.. Baru 90rb an..

Mohon ditambahkan pengalaman agan2 Kudaer yg laen... :big_peace:
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kyknya selain di tambahin to per diganti musti di liat dulu deh kerataan per daunnya, kayak panther ane per daunnya udah hampir lurus ( menurut ane ) jadi udah gk ada gerak ngayun, kalo pun ada itu sangat kecil sekali dan pendek..
nah saking udah hampir lurusnya itu per daun, kalo di itung dari permukaan ban ke bibir spakboard cuman sekitar 3 - 4 jari doank...

jadi kalo per daunnya masih melengkung harusnya sih masih empuk ya ( menurut ane )