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madcat015 wrote:Rasanya ga mati bro. Dengar, desainnya di beli RRC...

Mereka taun depan mw test Advanced Stealth Fighternya sendiri... tentu saja dibantu insinyur Russia... :ungg:
China Military technology assisted by Russia and........Israel.....

Konon fighter J-10 itu adalah perwujudan dr blueprint project stealth fighter IAI di masa lalu bersama Amerika yg batal diterusin krn Amerika nyetop duit...........

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Turboman wrote:
madcat015 wrote:Rasanya ga mati bro. Dengar, desainnya di beli RRC...

Mereka taun depan mw test Advanced Stealth Fighternya sendiri... tentu saja dibantu insinyur Russia... :ungg:
China Military technology assisted by Russia and........Israel.....

Konon fighter J-10 itu adalah perwujudan dr blueprint project stealth fighter IAI di masa lalu bersama Amerika yg batal diterusin krn Amerika nyetop duit...........

He he heeee
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Kalau J-10, China beli blueprint IDF LAVI... pengembangan F-16 untuk jadi 4+ Gen Fighter...

LAVI atau Young Lion dulu jadi proyek menggemparkan yg dibikin Israel. Mewarisi simplisitas dan robust nya F-16 tapi dengan kemampuan jauh lebih tinggi...

Ternyata nyasar ke China... :ungg:
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Indonesia bentar lagi ada f-16 bekas...apache baru..lumayan lah. Apa masih perlu armada long range bomber...biar serem dikit. Taro di Irian atau Sumatra Utara.. Rusia pasti mau jual..tapi apa yg cocok? Kemampuan serang kita dikit banget...kapal selam doang.
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dubz wrote:Indonesia bentar lagi ada f-16 bekas...apache baru..lumayan lah. Apa masih perlu armada long range bomber...biar serem dikit. Taro di Irian atau Sumatra Utara.. Rusia pasti mau jual..tapi apa yg cocok? Kemampuan serang kita dikit banget...kapal selam doang.
F16 bekas kayaknya hibah dari US untuk pembelian B737 nya Lion Air...

Apache attack copter utk membuyarkan demo massa aja... :mky_03:

Long range bomber, ahhh. Dulu ada Tu-16 Badger... andai Indonesia mw beli 6 biji Tu-95 Bear yak... high altitude long range strategic bomber.

Entah buat ngebom apa... :big_chicken:

Sebenarnya, Indonesia lebih memerlukan anti-insurgency aircraft macam OV-10 Bronco... sayang uda ga ada.


Argentina bisa bikin counter insurgency aircraft. Kalo ga salah namanya Pucarra atau something...

Kecepatan rendah, high visibility cockpit, medium payload, STOL, maintenance mudah, dan bisa beroperasi dari landasan/pangkalan darurat tanpa tarmac.

We need those planes.

Cmiiw. :ungg:
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Pesawat paling mengagumkan nih, C130 Hercules
Rata-rata pilot generasi sekarang, dulu ayah bahkan kakeknya juga nerbangin :frm_salut:
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Sebenarnya, Indonesia lebih memerlukan anti-insurgency aircraft macam OV-10 Bronco... sayang uda ga ada.
tenang oom, penggantinya kita punya kok :big_smoking: Super Tucano
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Buat deterrent aja...alias nyerem2in biar gak dilecehkan negara lain. Anti insurgency mah brimob aja beres wkwkwk...gak canggih2 amat kok peralatan calon pemberontak kita haha
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Ahhhh, Herky...

Bisa dijadikan apa aja. Kemampuan dan fleksibilitas tinggi, low maintenance, ga manja dan rewel...

Dan bisa bikin ketar ketir pasukan musuh di darat... :big_smoking:

It's a cargo plane? No...
It has guns! And a Howitzer!

It's AC-130 Spectre/Spooky... :big_smoking:

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@bro pckupelan: ummm... Super Tuscano... :ungg:

Entah mengapa menurut ane lebih bagus OV-10 Bronco dan Pucarra drpd Tuscano ini ya... cmiiw... :ungg:

@om dubz: buat ngegempur sarang teroris di tengah hutan om... :mrgreen:

Untuk deterrent dulu kita punya Tu-16 dan KRI Irian.

Skr kita punya... errr... apa ya... :ungg:
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Russian..... :mky_03:

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-edited-... they weren't made by Russian.... :big_sorry:
My bad... my deepest sorry to Russians..

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@oom madcat
Entah mengapa menurut ane lebih bagus OV-10 Bronco dan Pucarra drpd Tuscano ini ya... cmiiw...
Saya bronco udah pensiun oom, meski punya segudang kemampuan sih, dan punya Indonesia aja yang diupgrade dari M60C 7.62 ke M2 12.7 :mky_08:
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Makanya dulu kita berwibawa...walaupun miskin wkwkwk. Tapi kayanya kita gak mampu melihara tu 160 blackjack...rusia aja mpof2an meliharanya
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Hehe, TU-160 Blackjack mah jgn ditanya.. paling ga kalau dulu Tu-16 kita gak di grounded pasti masih dipakai sampai sekarang..
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Super Tucano ini gokil, dia bisa bawa rudal semacam AIM-9 Sidewinder kalo dibutuhkan, lumayan kalo ada penyelundup pake helikopter..make jet tempur pasti uring2an untuk "motret" target..lebih enak pake pesawat kayak Tucano buat intercept Helicopter atau pesawat ringan lainnya

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one of the best COIN aircraft out there....untuk OV-10 Bronco, dia punya 1 kelebihan yang gak dipunyai COIN aircraft yang lain...untuk angkut pasukan Paratrooper !

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dalam perang, skala sekecil apapun...siapa yang memegang air superiority and information, dia pemenangnya..

@om ekvan....ehhmm itu foto 2 dan 3 dari bawah itu projectnya McDonell Douglas di MD80 mereka

@om dubz, kita dulu gak mampu memelihara pesawat rusia gara2 arus suku cadang pesawat distop Russia..kalo sparepart lancar terus sih, kita bisa melihara mereka..

kita juga dulu punya Gunship, tapi pesawatnya gak segede AC130..kita dulu make AC47 Spooky (also nicknamed, "puff, the magic dragon")

pesawatnya diambil dari C47 versi sipil

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Ehemmm.....

OOT dikit

Ingin tahu profesi brokerage pesawat bekas itu biasanya si dealmaker dapet fee nya brp % yah ? (Kalo property kan 2,5%)

Ada yg tahu ?
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Gak ada habisnya kalau kita bilang rusia sih...

Ini dia pesawat yang menghentikan PD2.. Enola Gay (B-29 Superfortress) yang membawa "little boy" dan "fat man" yang di jatuhkan di Hiroshima dan Nagasaki..
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Vikers Vimy the legend, pesawat pertama yang melintasi samudra atlantik non stop kala itu.. Sempat mendarat di Surabaya dengan landasan alas bambu
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Turboman wrote:Ehemmm.....

OOT dikit

Ingin tahu profesi brokerage pesawat bekas itu biasanya si dealmaker dapet fee nya brp % yah ? (Kalo property kan 2,5%)

Ada yg tahu ?
Properti kalo di atas 1M dpt 2.5%, dibawah itu 3% om.

Untuk brokerage pesawat, kayaknya bro haristk yg tau om... :mky_01:

Ane taunya brokerage mesin 747... dpt 0.5-0.8% om.

@om nyoman: B-29 yg menghentikan PD2... Superfortress indeed...

Bijimane pun, palagan eropa ttp jadi hi-lite... ane selalu ingat dengan Mighty Eight Air Force bawahan James Doolittle.

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Bomber dan fighter juga Air support command bertugas membom tanah Jerman dengan B-17 dan P-51...

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Industri ball bearing, pabrik pesawat, kilang minyak, rel kereta api. Semua dibabat untuk persiapan operasi Overlord.

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haristk7 wrote:
dalam perang, skala sekecil apapun...siapa yang memegang air superiority and information, dia pemenangnya..
Aerial bombardment can obliterate, but only infantry can occupy :big_peace:

Umumnya dalam sejarah, pemegang supremasi laut/udara memang menang meski tetap ada pengecualian. Salah satunya Indochina War, baik Perancis dan USA akhirnya kalah dan angkat kaki..., meski mereka superior di udara, laut dan teknolgi (informasi)

Bagaimanapun juga, semua peperangan tetap ditentukan dan diakhiri oleh full atau "semi-infantry" (Paratrooper/Marine)

*moga2 semua peperangan tidak diperlukan, si vis pacem para pactum :e-pray:
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hhe, pasukan infantri tetap yang utama dalam pertempuran.. air support belakang..
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Ilyushin IL-96
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hehehehe, at least kalo sudah menguasai udara, infantry bisa dapet air support yang mumpuni, bisa request bom atau roket dari udara :big_peace:

IL96 ya om vanz ? wah, belom pernah tuh...dan sepertinya gak akan pernah naik Russian Beauty ini...padahal pengen banget, sayang Aeroflot mau mengistirahatkan armada IL96 mereka awal tahun ini..kalo mau naik IL96 masa harus ke Kuba dulu..jauh bener..
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Ya iyalah di retire...IL96 boros bensin dan berisik :p
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Ngomong2 ada yg bisnis supplier ke airline ga ?

Gimana yah ceritanya orang2 yg punya tagihan ke Batavia Air...........udah cair belom ya ?
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Turboman wrote:Ngomong2 ada yg bisnis supplier ke airline ga ?

Gimana yah ceritanya orang2 yg punya tagihan ke Batavia Air...........udah cair belom ya ?
Kalo di tempat ane, ngga ke Batavia Air, om.
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IL96 nggak berisik, dia udah FAA Stage 4 noise compliant yang isinya Airbus A330, Airbus A340, Boeing 777, dan pesawat canggih lainnya, plus harganya lebih murah dari pesawat besar buatan barat dan bisa dipasang avionik barat buatan Rockwell Collins

untuk fuel burn menurut data dari http://www.avid.ru/eng/products/civil/PS-90A2/

fuel burn IL96 ada di kisaran 7000-8000 kilogram/hour...sedangkan pesaingnya A340-300 ada di kisaran 6000-6500 kilogram/hour, MD11 ada di kisaran 8000-8300 kilogram/hour....sebagai perbandingan lainnya, Boeing 747-400 sendiri fuel burnnya ada di kisaran 9000-13000 kilogram/hour..nggak begitu boros juga sih si IL96..

permasalahan utamanya Aeroflot menghentikan operasi IL96 ada di sparepart, karena populasinya dikit, jadi jalur kelancaran sparepart jadi masalah utama disini...yang menyebabkan IL96 gagal di pasar...bisa dianalogikan kalo mobil, ada di masalah After Sales Services..
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menyimak suhu harist... :ungg:

Tapi ane sukaaaaaaaa banget dengan upperdeck 747 yang ini....
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last time 747 100 upperdeck... :big_childish:

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