Jazz vs Livina

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hehehe. kalo kata sales gw, dulu kan ada yg nyoba suzuki cross over sampe terbalik di jalan tol. jadi kayanya indomobil tuh kapok.
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satyr wrote:cuma tes muter2 di dalem showroom. pelit noh nissan

gw tes drive 325i aja malah suruh digeber2

"mas kalo cuma jalan segini... carry jg bisa.. digeber atuh. pindah ke S persenelingnya. trus gas pol"

asyik..jadi ga ragu deh geber ampe nyaris red line. :p
iya tuh...gw pernah juga test drive Grand Livina yg 1.5 XV M/T...yaah...masa cuman dapet test di areal simpen mobil di belakang...waktu itu belom launching sih...makanya ga boleh dibawa keluar...ntar keliatan ama orang laen... :lol:

awalnya sih banyak pilihan GLnya yg 1.5 & 1.8 M/T,A/Tpun dapet tes...tapi males dah...cuman dapet gas 5 detik di gigi 1 trus rem...kalo engga...cium lah tembok parkiran mobil... :e-wall:
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hunter wrote:hehehe. kalo kata sales gw, dulu kan ada yg nyoba suzuki cross over sampe terbalik di jalan tol. jadi kayanya indomobil tuh kapok.
Hansen wrote:
satyr wrote:cuma tes muter2 di dalem showroom. pelit noh nissan

gw tes drive 325i aja malah suruh digeber2

"mas kalo cuma jalan segini... carry jg bisa.. digeber atuh. pindah ke S persenelingnya. trus gas pol"

asyik..jadi ga ragu deh geber ampe nyaris red line. :p
iya tuh...gw pernah juga test drive Grand Livina yg 1.5 XV M/T...yaah...masa cuman dapet test di areal simpen mobil di belakang...waktu itu belom launching sih...makanya ga boleh dibawa keluar...ntar keliatan ama orang laen... :lol:

awalnya sih banyak pilihan GLnya yg 1.5 & 1.8 M/T,A/Tpun dapet tes...tapi males dah...cuman dapet gas 5 detik di gigi 1 trus rem...kalo engga...cium lah tembok parkiran mobil... :e-wall:
waktu itu bukan ga boleh keluar bro....tapi karena belom launching...takut ketahuan ntar ga surprise lagi & kena marah atasannya ntar karena melanggar aturan....bwakakak... :lol: :glodak:
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ah, bukan itu... mobil test drive memang sudah diasuransikan... jadi pun itu meledak ga masalah... hehehe

cuma, rata2 sales tidak bisa memberikan karena alesan keamanan... bukan mobilnya, tapi salesnya... ngerti lah. tapi utk gue, alesan2 tersebut tidak masuk akal... seharusnya bisa minta jalan2 keluar area... wong waktu minta test drive suzuki/mazda aja, gue minta disamperin ke rumah... mau tuh.. mana cs nya manis lagi... hahahaha!
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dony wrote:Dengar-2 Jazz 2008, mesin masih memakai spec lama cumaganti model aja, jadi bukan I-Vtec mengingat kalau pakai ivtec mau dihargai brp.
Memang Livina XR termsk murah cuma jgn smp mengurai quality material yg jelas-2 keliatan bangeet dimata spt yg dibagasi, coba Jok belakang msh bisa direbahkan lagi bisa menambah nilai plus juga.
baru denger dari dealer honda, kayaknya buat uang idsi tetep masih produksi hanya ganti body aja, tapi yang vtec tetep ganti i-vtec. kalo jadi mesin idsi tetep keluar, berarti emang hanya terjadi di indo aja, secara diluar mesin ini udah gak dipasang di jazz baru.

yang penting cuan booo
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piterr wrote:
dony wrote:Dengar-2 Jazz 2008, mesin masih memakai spec lama cumaganti model aja, jadi bukan I-Vtec mengingat kalau pakai ivtec mau dihargai brp.
Memang Livina XR termsk murah cuma jgn smp mengurai quality material yg jelas-2 keliatan bangeet dimata spt yg dibagasi, coba Jok belakang msh bisa direbahkan lagi bisa menambah nilai plus juga.
baru denger dari dealer honda, kayaknya buat uang idsi tetep masih produksi hanya ganti body aja, tapi yang vtec tetep ganti i-vtec. kalo jadi mesin idsi tetep keluar, berarti emang hanya terjadi di indo aja, secara diluar mesin ini udah gak dipasang di jazz baru.

yang penting cuan booo

kalo gt tar bda hrg versi idsi ma i-Vtec jauh banget donk..rasanya c mesin ttp Vtec yg lama d..cm sekedar ganti baju aj
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Tp hampir pasti ada mesin baru (i-vtec Lseries) di gen baru, at least di varian nya, secara itu tradisi honda; or selling pointnya cuma ganti baju di gen baru sptnya susah acceptable deh utk honda.
Namun, kalo masih ada mesin idsi, bisa jadi ada juga di negara2 yg ketat memperhitungkan FC spt market di india, sebagian eropa (ini selain 1.3idsi, bahkan ada yg idsi versi 1.2ltr).

Kalo cuma di indo ada varian idsi, hebat juga marketing dir nya honda indo itu bisa propose itu ke prinsipalnya. since sptnya honda ke depannya akan konflik interest thdp fokus trademark nya yg akan dihadapkan pd dualisme : vtec and dsi ..
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masuknya mesin L15A VTEC n K20A i-VTEC 240 hp

maknyusssss

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GTR wrote:Tp hampir pasti ada mesin baru (i-vtec Lseries) di gen baru, at least di varian nya, secara itu tradisi honda; or selling pointnya cuma ganti baju di gen baru sptnya susah acceptable deh utk honda.
Namun, kalo masih ada mesin idsi, bisa jadi ada juga di negara2 yg ketat memperhitungkan FC spt market di india, sebagian eropa (ini selain 1.3idsi, bahkan ada yg idsi versi 1.2ltr).

Kalo cuma di indo ada varian idsi, hebat juga marketing dir nya honda indo itu bisa propose itu ke prinsipalnya. since sptnya honda ke depannya akan konflik interest thdp fokus trademark nya yg akan dihadapkan pd dualisme : vtec and dsi ..
keliatannya sih bakal begitu. yg idsi te2p ada n yg vtec pk yg L15A i-vtec. HPM sendiri sdh ngeset target yg cukup tinggi dithn 2008 ini krn ada beberapa mdl baru dithn ini. New Accord-Jazz-StepWgn n city?
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step wagon masuk??

eh iya city ga ganti model tuh?
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Bro2 disini semua saya mau menekankan lagi enggak mungkin honda jazz 2008 pake mesin jadul yang sudah tua dipake lagi. saya yakin akan menggunakan mesin terbaru yg konon katanya (sumber benar2 terpercaya) dikembangkan dari mesin civic. Saya sudah pernah lihat di situs jepang modelnya/desain mirip banged sama mesin seri R18A (civic) or R20A (CRV) yang sudah i-vtec..So kalau jazz 2008 dijual pake mesin lama mau ditaruh dimana muka petinggi2 honda di indonesia :e-naughty: :e-naughty: males juga yang beli.. :lol: :lol:
Untuk masalah harga logikanya GL yang ukurannya lebih gede aja bisa dijual 150an masak jazz 2008 ga bisa dijual diharga segitu..menurut saya overpriced lah.
Tapi memang diprediksi jazz 2008 dijual sekitar 180an juta tipe tertinggi..
Contoh lain lagi Civic sama CRV dijual di indonesia sama persis dengan mesin yg di Jepang ga ada cerita pake mesin lama..MENYANGKUT REPUTASI HONDA :e-dance: :thanks:
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kl 180 an dpt mesin baru c worthed juga tipe tertinggi ny Honda.
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kalo 180 an d jkt sampe di medan hampir 200 dunk?buset
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@aldy: kita liat aja deh ntar
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sptnya masuk 2 varian mesin sih ivtec dan idsi, secara yg membangun image jazz di indo itu idsi, tipe lainnya memang vtec dari dulu.
nah, kayanya ga bisa hub dgn GL deh, since, standar jazz itu sasarannya harus masuk & lulus persyaratan ketat (& sukses pula di) pasar JDM, USDM, eropa; GL sasaran marketnya beda, that's why harga beda alias produk global ga mungkin bisa disamakan.
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makanya. gw liat jg GL nya suka bermasalah. aneh2 aja masalahnya

males jadinya liat Livina XR. takut sama jg
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@satyr : sms gue kalo tgl 24 ada XR yg ikutan... :D
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kita liat aja apa yg bisa dipangkas HPM. logika dimana2 ada uang ada barang. pasti puyeng tuh si jonfis..he...he...he
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Banget....
tantangannya:
Jazz nanti tetap hrs bisa compete di harga kelas produk regional.. sama nanti kalo Yaris keluar next gen nya..
tapi at least fitur cerdas selain styling yg "mungkin tidak disadari secara langsung" tetap mutlak ada :
GCON(ACE), Mid-fuel tank, Ultra-Seat, steer(/paddle)shift, CVT, Isofix, ivtec.
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Hmm gak salah yah 240 HP ?

Civic saja yang 2000 CC tidak sampai segitu ..

Kalau bener 240 HP dengan mesin 1500CC harga 180 jt pasti laku seperti kacang goreng ...
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itu kan cuma andai2 omm.
civic mugen RR 2000cc = 240hp, tiap hari ada iklannya tuh di kompas.
kalo mau 180jt =240hp ga bakal bisa, atau jazz vtec pakai Jumbo Turbo kali.
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hahhaa. kidding bos. K20A 240 hp itu mesin Civic Mugen RR limited
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poeticmind wrote:@satyr : sms gue kalo tgl 24 ada XR yg ikutan... :D
kalo gw jg ikutan ya bro

dana yg gw sisihkan blom cukup soalnya nih buat ke sentul

kecuali bos mau beli 10 HID gw.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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hahahahaha! itu sama dengan dp livina XR! :D
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ada yg lebih menarik bos!

time attack. jadi muterin tu lap sentul

tp 350 rb euy. tgl 9 maret ntar rencananya
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