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Ngomong2 versi Australia juga 5-speed non-CVT...asal Thailand juga.
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@dubz ini cuman nanya doang ya, basis nya masih mesin i-vtec kan?
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Wah ndak tau..masih K-series yg di improve aja.
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@dubz, anda benard disisi earthdreams improve mesin sm cvt as explained, tapi anda salah ketika anda posting bahwa earthdreams ini ada pengembangan chasis dan suspensi juga, karena ini bukan under earthdreams brand, well...jadi semua orang bisa salah kan om termasuk anda :big_weee:

dan anda sampai sekarang selalu menghindar2 dari pertanyaan saya, yg membuktikan anda itu tidak lebih dari sekedar keyboard warrior 0 dan anda senang sekali menjatuhkan orang lain, berarti disini membuktikan ada masalah dengan kejiwaan anda yang cenderung psikopat senang melihat orang lain disakiti :mky_03:

udah ah orang gini kalo posting lagi dicuekin aj, biarin aja monolog sesukanya :mky_08:
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to all members yang lagi diskusi, tolong diperhatikan postingannya dengan menjelaskan dengan baik...



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mengenai earth dreams dkk... sudah ad tret yg membahas soal itu... mohon rekan2 mampir dsana saja yahh diskusi nya..
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Primatech wrote:@dubz, anda benard disisi earthdreams improve mesin sm cvt as explained, tapi anda salah ketika anda posting bahwa earthdreams ini ada pengembangan chasis dan suspensi juga, karena ini bukan under earthdreams brand, well...jadi semua orang bisa salah kan om termasuk anda :big_weee:
Dimana saya bilang Earth Dreams mencakup chassis/suspensi? Coba cari :mrgreen: Saya bilang Earth Dreams bukan cuman mesin aja, itu omongan ngawur anda. Lebih ngawur lagi bacot fanboy dimana anda bilang pengembangan Earth Dreams "nggak jelas" kaya Skyaktiv.
Primatech wrote:Masih mending skyactiv deh,ketauan jelas improvenya dimana, daripada earthdreams
Nggak semua mesti dilabelin...nggak termasuk Earth Dreams bukan berarti Accord tidak ada improvement di sektor tersebut - malah banyak. Digabungin semua jadinya ya mirip2 aja sama Skyaktiv. Kalo amatiran emang gampang banget kemakan bahasa marketing.
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@dubz, hahaaha, anda lupa yaa :mky_07:
dubz wrote:Duh...gampang banget sih kemakan branding.
The front double wishbone suspension has been replaced with a MacPherson strut design, while the rear retains a multi-link setup. The Accord's body now utilizes 55.8% high strength steel, a total of 17.2% are either of 780, 980 or 1,500 MPa yield strength types which were not used in the previous generation. The Accord's previous steel front subframe has been replaced with an aluminum and steel component that weighs 14 lb (6.4 kg) less and is manufactured using friction stir welding. Overall the body weight sheds 55 lb (25 kg)
Plus mesin direct injection...alias mirip2 aja sama Skyactiv. Semua pabrikan menuju ke efisiensi dengan berbagai cara, brandingnya juga masing2. Ada BlueMotion, EfficientDynamics, Skyactiv, Earth Dreams, dll. Ente kira Honda diem aja gak ada perubahan selain mesin...gak R&D menuju efisiensi?

anda posting kata2 ini untuk menjawab posting om ricz sebelumnya

Iya, Earth dream cmn fokus @ mesin aja..

Skyactiv mencakup mesin, transmisi & chassis..


berarti anda menjelaskan bahwa earthdreams juga mencakup perubahan suspensi2 dll yg terefleksi dalam post anda


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Dan jangan merasa superior kalau anda benar yg lain salah.. :big_weee:

Poor you, semua orang jadinya tau kualitas anda :mky_07:

Udah aah..kasian, keyboard warrior ntar bunuh diri depan keyboard lagi :wkkk:
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Bales si ricz? dimana quotenya? Saya bales yg sebelumnya. Kebetulan si ricz posting pas sebelum saya. Mau sok printilan tapi ngawur hihihi.

Maksud saya kalo dilihat improvement2 Accord...mirip2 aja jadinya sama Skyaktiv. Dibaca lagi, siapa tau kedua kali jadi ngerti.
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Oh, meskipun earth dreams cuman fokus di mesin & skyactiv fokus di mesin, sasis dll tapi kalo dilihat hasilnya beti antara Skyactiv ama Earth ya? Itu maksud anda?

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Om dubz yg pintar, jelaskan pd nubie ya, scr cuman py mazda pre- skyactiv..
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Bukan. Kalo dilihat perubahan2 di Accord dan Mazda6...mirip2 aja semua disentuh, apa pun labelnya - Mesin, transmisi, chassis, suspensi banyak berubah....dengan tujuan fuel efficiency.

Earth Dreams, Skyaktiv...cuman bahasa marketing aja. Makanya saya bilang "duh gampang banget kemakan branding"
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Primatech wrote:Plus ini:

http://green.autoblog.com/2012/12/20/gr ... announced/

Salah satu finalis

Earthdreams g keliatan :mky_02:
Bener2 kemakan marketing yg satu ini, sampe gak kebaca
Green Car Journal's 10 nominees include the Fiat MultiAir, the Fisker Automotive extended-range plug-in powertrain, the Ford Energi plug-in hybrid, the Mazda Skyactiv system, and both the Tesla Model S and Toyota RAV4 battery-electrics (which were both built by the same cast of characters). Ford's EcoBoost direct injection system and its Stop-Start hybrid systems also made the list, as did the Honda Eco Assist fuel-saving system and the Nissan Easy-Fill Tire Alert system.
Adakah teknologi ini, dengan branding "Eco Assist™", di Accord? Ada. http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-sed ... ssist.aspx Apa pentingnya dia masuk branding Earth Dreams atau bukan...ada di mobilnya nggak? Yg penting teknologinya atau brandingnya?
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MonSTER_GTR wrote:@risol1 iya om ane tau hhe pasti ada penyempurnaan hhe, tapi se signifikan apakah penyempurnaan nya hhe, ane gak ngomong earth-dream jelek kq dari awal ane post :ungg: :ungg: :ungg: :ungg: .
Gini lho bro,
Yg penting kita sama2 tau bahwa honda dan merek2 mobil lainnya juga selalu ber-inovasi supaya mobil2nya bisa efisien bahan bakar dan kurangin gas buang.

Kalo ditanya siapa yg paling kenceng inovasinya, ya susah jawabnya karena orang awam banyakan gak ada yg tau secara detail item apa aja yg di-improved. Juga beda pabrikan, beda juga sektor2 improvementnya.
Misal: gimana kita bisa bandingkan improvement earth dreamsnya honda dengan skyactivnya Mazda di sektor Hybrid? Karena skyactiv gak punya hybrid.....gimana scorenya? Apakah karena Skyactiv gak pake hybrid, maka Skyactiv kalah? kan engga.
Atau karena skyactiv cuma fokus di mesin, transmisi, sasis, maka improvement earth dreams honda di AWDnya jadinya gak bisa dihitung sebagai improvement? (karena semua harus berpatokan ke mazda?)

Mungkinkah yg sebenernya terjadi adalah mazda lah yg promosi skyactiv nya paling kenceng jadi sepertinya semua orang disini taunya skyactiv yg paling hebat inovasinya.

Juga kalo masalah label earth dreams cuma boleh diasosiasikan dengan engine-nya honda saja karena "iklan"nya ngomong spt itu, maka skyactiv pun juga sama aja, alias bisa juga cuma diasosiasikan dengan inovasi engine-nya mazda aja (bukan harus selalu satu paket sama transmisi, chassis, body - spt yg selama ini selalu di iklan kan sama mazda).
Kalo skyactiv itu HARUS selalu satu paket, maka mazda sama aja menipu orang2 yg sekarang pada beli mazda 3 skyactiv karena di mazda3 skyactiv, cuma engine doang (sama transmisi - optional) yg pake skyactiv.
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sm anget lg :mky_01:
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Toyota belum ada ya inovasi gitu...mgkn lebih fokus ke hibrid? Ane liat berita kerjasama dgn tesla..
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judulnya ane ganti aja dengan : Aktit vs pussip..
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dubz wrote:
Primatech wrote:Plus ini:

http://green.autoblog.com/2012/12/20/gr ... announced/

Salah satu finalis

Earthdreams g keliatan :mky_02:
Bener2 kemakan marketing yg satu ini, sampe gak kebaca
Green Car Journal's 10 nominees include the Fiat MultiAir, the Fisker Automotive extended-range plug-in powertrain, the Ford Energi plug-in hybrid, the Mazda Skyactiv system, and both the Tesla Model S and Toyota RAV4 battery-electrics (which were both built by the same cast of characters). Ford's EcoBoost direct injection system and its Stop-Start hybrid systems also made the list, as did the Honda Eco Assist fuel-saving system and the Nissan Easy-Fill Tire Alert system.
Adakah teknologi ini, dengan branding "Eco Assist™", di Accord? Ada. http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-sed ... ssist.aspx Apa pentingnya dia masuk branding Earth Dreams atau bukan...ada di mobilnya nggak? Yg penting teknologinya atau brandingnya?

Lho kan memang lagi ngomngin brand earthdreams, sekarang anda ngomongin teknologi.. disini jg situs tersebut ngomngin skyactiv, kalau memang ngomngin earthdreams ya pasti dia akan tulis earthdream engine as you say, memang yg tulis artikel sebodoh anda ya :mky_03: ?

Dan dipostingan sebelumnya pun kita membahas earthdream kan, tapi kenapa anda masukkan suspensi disana, ya itu karena anda mau bales bahwa eartdreams ada upgrade suspensi dllnya, well padahal ya jelaslah semua mobil pasti ada improvement, tapi seperti yg saya bilang sebelumnya, ini tidak masuk ke dalam umbrella brand earthdreams

Jadi anda salah bro :mky_03:

dan ini membuktikan semua orang bisa salah, tapi dalam hal ini kualitas anda tidak sebaik bro monster yg ada salah langsung meluruskan dan mengakui, tapi anda cuma bisa denial dan ngeles aja :big_weee:
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Kasian amat....mau nyari2 salah tapi maksa :wkkk:
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@ dubz, yg kasian itu anda sebenarnya.. :upss:

cuma bisa ngeles, ngejatuhin dan sama sekali g ada isinya, dan member2 SM disini pun jadi tau kan kualitas anda :mky_03:

kalau anda ingin pengakuan bukan disini tempatnya, kalau di dunia nyata anda ada masalah, jangan lampiaskan disini bro..

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ZombiEE wrote:Toyota belum ada ya inovasi gitu...mgkn lebih fokus ke hibrid? Ane liat berita kerjasama dgn tesla..
Ane malah dengar Toyota sama BMW kerjasama bikin hybrid drive buat mobil2 mereka.

Kayaknya medio tenga 2012 isu nya waktu itu.
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madcat015 wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Toyota belum ada ya inovasi gitu...mgkn lebih fokus ke hibrid? Ane liat berita kerjasama dgn tesla..
Ane malah dengar Toyota sama BMW kerjasama bikin hybrid drive buat mobil2 mereka.

Kayaknya medio tenga 2012 isu nya waktu itu.
bukannya toyota mau adopsi skyactivnya mazda ya?
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Bueuk_32 wrote:
madcat015 wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Toyota belum ada ya inovasi gitu...mgkn lebih fokus ke hibrid? Ane liat berita kerjasama dgn tesla..
Ane malah dengar Toyota sama BMW kerjasama bikin hybrid drive buat mobil2 mereka.

Kayaknya medio tenga 2012 isu nya waktu itu.
bukannya toyota mau adopsi skyactivnya mazda ya?
Nahhhhh....

Ane ga tau tentang itu.

Yang ane pernah baca Ford sm Mazda cerai gara2 skyactiv ya? Cmiiw
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beritanya sih iya, toyota mau beli skyactiv, udah dari tahun lalu sih beritanya
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bro2 semua....lepas dari semuanya walaupun tidak ada label skyactive atau apapun namanya...pada dasarnya pabrikan otomotif melakukan penyempurnaan demi efisiensi atau label hijau, baik itu transmisi, bodi, maupun mesin yang tentu tujuan peningkatan efisiensi penggunaan energi maupun peningkatan rasio power mesin dengan kapasitas mesin. Jadi di sini tentunya Honda Accord 2013 tentulah ada penyempurnaan baik sasis, transmisi maupun mesin (yang di branding earthdreams). Maksud dari bro Dubs (FM) adalah walauapun pabrikan tidak menamainya tetaplah semua menuju improvement....apa BMW melabeli? Audi melabeli? Intinya Skyactive itu cuman branding improvement Mazda saja yang tentu pabrikan lain melakukannya awalau tidak dilabeli. Ok bos???