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Re: Car Detailing Lounge - Part 02

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gioprivatemove wrote:
Abu2 wrote:OM Gio, NXT 1.0 ada kelemahannya gak ?
kalau dibandingkan dengan NXT 2.0, cuma kurang advance di durability ama fillernya bro.
Lo uda punya kan? apa mau beli? tunggu amunisi dari gw aja, biar maknyus.
gak bos, gak punya nxt 1.0, cuma ada teman yg baru beli itu, trus katanya dan dia berkeras gara2 pake itu mobilnya jd baret halus....gw aja bingung dan gak percaya, tp ya udahlah, cuma kontek2 via telp, pinginnya sih bisa ditunjukkiin before afternya..

amunisi yg itu ya wajib ditunggu lah... :D
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Re: Car Detailing Lounge - Part 02

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bro Gio saya ada rencana bikin salon panggilan di makassar, peralatan apa dan obat apa yg harus disediakan/beli? Thanks sebelumnya....
Klo jawabannya terlalu panjang boleh di pm aja...
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nah...jawaban yg gw tunggu juga nih..
jgn di PM, disini aja ya Om gio
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Re: Car Detailing Lounge - Part 02

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Abu2 wrote:
gioprivatemove wrote:
Abu2 wrote:OM Gio, NXT 1.0 ada kelemahannya gak ?
kalau dibandingkan dengan NXT 2.0, cuma kurang advance di durability ama fillernya bro.
Lo uda punya kan? apa mau beli? tunggu amunisi dari gw aja, biar maknyus.
gak bos, gak punya nxt 1.0, cuma ada teman yg baru beli itu, trus katanya dan dia berkeras gara2 pake itu mobilnya jd baret halus....gw aja bingung dan gak percaya, tp ya udahlah, cuma kontek2 via telp, pinginnya sih bisa ditunjukkiin before afternya..

amunisi yg itu ya wajib ditunggu lah... :D
itu cara ngewax nya pasti salah. atau permukaannya kotor.
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Re: Car Detailing Lounge - Part 02

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abrof wrote:bro Gio saya ada rencana bikin salon panggilan di makassar, peralatan apa dan obat apa yg harus disediakan/beli? Thanks sebelumnya....
Klo jawabannya terlalu panjang boleh di pm aja...
halo Bro.
Saat ini yg bro uda punya apa?
Rencana price range nya berapa buat salon panggilan?
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Re: Car Detailing Lounge - Part 02

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Sorry bro putus...saya baru punya alat poles ga tau tipe dan merk apa, itu alat masih di calon pegawai saya...dia sekolah di hyperblack
Gini aja bro semua aja alatnya untuk harga 200-300rb, klo hrg segitu meguiars bisa masuk? Atau hrg dikasi naik...terserah advicenya bro Gio lah....
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Re: Car Detailing Lounge - Part 02

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oh berguru di Hyperblack. seharusnya dia uda tau musti pake apa aja.
terus terang kalau segitu sih harga gak nutup. saya jg gak tau levelnya mau seberapa detail dan hasil akhirnya bagaimana.
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iya sih klo pake hrg hyperblack jelas banyak KO konsumennya he..he..kemahalan.
Klo soal alat dan obat dia mah baru belajar 2 minggu, dia tau tapi pake katalog yg ada di hyperblack, klo pake meguiar kan hrs nanya ke bro Gio...sorry ngrepotin. Thanks sebelumnya
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oh gitu. kalau pake Meg's, masalah harga bisa telpon ke CCAS langsung. Saya gak tau harga obat-2annya. gak hafal. Pastiin dulu bro, pake mesin apa. soalnya mesin macem-2 dan alat-2 perlengkapannya juga beda-2.
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@gio
pakek mf bro. Di kemasan juga disuruh pakek mf. Gw gak punya grit guard. Cuma setiap setengah panel gw bilas dulu. Baru celup di air sabun. Bersih kok jadinya gak ada bekas kotoran di embernya.
Btw, tanpa thickness gauge, cara qta memperkirakan tebal clear coat pada cat gimana ya bro. Gw baru sadar. Di innova pada bagian pinggir dah ada yang botak. Artinya salon kemaren2 asal aja. Belom di lis n karet2 seal. Ada bekas buffer gtu.
@abrof
coba liat page belakang bro. Kan ada bro gio pakek apa aja. Tapi harga ya tanya sendiri di CCAS.
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Ok d, thank bro
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wah..wah.. ada yg mau buka salon niy.. :D
jd pengen.. hehehe.. :mrgreen:
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Iya nes, tumbuhkan jiwa wirausaha, gak perlu turun sendiri, use your employer. Lu cuman ngawasin aja...
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abrof wrote:Iya nes, tumbuhkan jiwa wirausaha, gak perlu turun sendiri, use your employer. Lu cuman ngawasin aja...
setuju bro. Suruh duit cari duit. Tapi belum buat gw. Kudu cari duit pakek tenaga dulu. Hopefully kedepan bsa begitu. Bertahap..
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Bro gio klo level medium bagusnya pasang hrg brp?
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abrof wrote:Iya nes, tumbuhkan jiwa wirausaha, gak perlu turun sendiri, use your employer. Lu cuman ngawasin aja...
sip bos! gw dukung terus! Image

soalnya someday, gw jg pengen seperti pak abrof dan pak gio.. :e-pray:
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permisi, ingin bertanya niy, ummm.. blackfire itu apa yah? detailing workshop jg? atau merek obat?
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nescafe wrote:permisi, ingin bertanya niy, ummm.. blackfire itu apa yah? detailing workshop jg? atau merek obat?
merk obat bro nes kaya turtle wax gitu
produk ny macem" :D
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ddoctor wrote:@gio
pakek mf bro. Di kemasan juga disuruh pakek mf. Gw gak punya grit guard. Cuma setiap setengah panel gw bilas dulu. Baru celup di air sabun. Bersih kok jadinya gak ada bekas kotoran di embernya.
Btw, tanpa thickness gauge, cara qta memperkirakan tebal clear coat pada cat gimana ya bro. Gw baru sadar. Di innova pada bagian pinggir dah ada yang botak. Artinya salon kemaren2 asal aja. Belom di lis n karet2 seal. Ada bekas buffer gtu.
@abrof
coba liat page belakang bro. Kan ada bro gio pakek apa aja. Tapi harga ya tanya sendiri di CCAS.
ya gak ad cara lagi bro selaen pake thickness gauge :D
bentar lagi tmen g ada yang mau beli koq ;)
salon dimana tuh boss kacau juga p botak tuh cat ny ;)
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@buatandi
mahal tapi ya thickness gauge? Salon di cinere bro. Berarti mereka cuma bsa moles aja tanpa tau dasar2nya.
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Gw dah coba Quick detailernya Megs. Ternyata dia menarik serangga. Pas kebetulan mobil lagi di luar. Bah, jadi kayak makanan mobil gw dikerubungin lalat. Payah juga nih. Kalo UQD begitu juga gk?
Kayaknya enakan pakek ONR aja sebagai QD. Mantep kok. Slick juga sesudah dipakein. Padahal wax nya dah lumayan lama. Kayaknya gak jadi pakek ONR buat cuci. Too risky. Musim hujan gini banyak lumpur di bagian bawah mobil. Kecuali debu aja.
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Uqd tdk narik serangga, malah kadang narik wanita2 utk berkaca, apalagi sblmnya dah ada layer ocw...wekekekekeke
Nmpang tanya dong, kalo uqd disebutin dikemasan,curing time 12 jam.
Nah, utk curingtime produk2 berikut, brp lama ya?
1.nxt 2.0
2. Mother cw
3. 915
4.ocw
5.
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Abu2 wrote:Uqd tdk narik serangga, malah kadang narik wanita2 utk berkaca, apalagi sblmnya dah ada layer ocw...wekekekekeke
Nmpang tanya dong, kalo uqd disebutin dikemasan,curing time 12 jam.
Nah, utk curingtime produk2 berikut, brp lama ya?
1.nxt 2.0
2. Mother cw
3. 915
4.ocw
5. zymol cleaner wax
6. meguiars cleaner wax
7. meg's Gold Class
8. DC3 / hig tech yellow wax
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nescafe wrote:
Abu2 wrote:Uqd tdk narik serangga, malah kadang narik wanita2 utk berkaca, apalagi sblmnya dah ada layer ocw...wekekekekeke
Nmpang tanya dong, kalo uqd disebutin dikemasan,curing time 12 jam.
Nah, utk curingtime produk2 berikut, brp lama ya?
1.nxt 2.0
2. Mother cw
3. 915
4.ocw
5. zymol cleaner wax
6. meguiars cleaner wax
7. meg's Gold Class
8. DC3 / hig tech yellow wax
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Steve,

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The main difference with the polymers we use vs polyethylene-acrylics is that there is no cross-linking with polyethylene-acrylics. However, with the polymers we use, they will cross-link and cure within 24 hours to create a 3-dimensional matrix. This is valid for the Optimum Car Wax, Poli-Seal, and Opti-Seal. The latter cures much faster due to new technologies that we developed over the past two years.

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The one advantage polyehtylene-acrylics offer is that since they are acidic by natue, they hold up better to acid rain, however, at the same time since they are acidic, they can cause minor etching of the paint. All and all, for the above reasons, our entire line is free of polyehtylene-acrylics and therefore all of the products in the Optimum line are compatible with each other.
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ddoctor wrote:Gw dah coba Quick detailernya Megs. Ternyata dia menarik serangga. Pas kebetulan mobil lagi di luar. Bah, jadi kayak makanan mobil gw dikerubungin lalat. Payah juga nih. Kalo UQD begitu juga gk?
Kayaknya enakan pakek ONR aja sebagai QD. Mantep kok. Slick juga sesudah dipakein. Padahal wax nya dah lumayan lama. Kayaknya gak jadi pakek ONR buat cuci. Too risky. Musim hujan gini banyak lumpur di bagian bawah mobil. Kecuali debu aja.
weiitttsss...tunggu dulu... :e-naughty:

kok kita ngalamin hal yang sama sih? :e-think: ternyata bukan cuman gw yg ngalamin mobil didatengin serangga aneh setelah dipakein QD Megs... :roll:

ceritanya gini...setelah gw pakein QD Megs...udah kilap2nya ntu mobil...eh, besoknya kaget bukan main gw... :shock: sekujur bodi mobilnya buanyak banget serangga2 putih seperti ulat yang jalan sana sini di cat mobilnya... :off_no:


sbenernya ada apa sih di balik QD Megs ini... :e-think:
gw jadi ngeri buat pake lagi...ntah ada hubungannya sama QDnya apa kaga... :shrug: tapi setelah bro ddoctor ngalamin hal yg sama...gw jadi heran... :e-think:
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