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mpvlover wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:16
"Banyak sekali rumah sakit yang berpartisipasi bukan hanya RS pemerintah, TNI/Polri, RS BUMN tetapi RS swasta pun banyak yang mendedikasikan untuk merawat COVID-19 ini," ujar Yuri saat jumpa pers melalui akun Youtube BNPB, Sabtu
Banyak rumahsakit swasta ? Rs swasta mana aja ya ?
Tentu semua RS berpartisipasi om, tapiiiii, tidak secara penuh/menyeluruh, kalo ada pneumonia yg mengarah ke covid19 ya langsung rujuk :big_grin:
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Tanggap darurat jakarta diperpanj sd 19 april
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Zaxis wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:22
bensinsolar wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:58
Zaxis wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:52

Biasa langsung dirujuk ke rs lain kalo ada indikasi covid

Ga ada fasilitas buat obatin malah nulerin ke pasien lain lebih bahaya
Ok Om. Misal kalau ni orang ud urgent kalau butuh oxygen apa bakal dikasih? Penasaran aja karena kalau semua RS ud penuh apa RS tipe ini akan digunakan juga
Yah dicoba aja om kalo kepepet

Kalo ngobrol ama perawat rsia sih gitu bakal ditolak

Malah dokter nya cerita dapet pasien baru krn takut lahiran di rs umum jd berojol di rsia
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Whats up , amerika persiapqn pandemik di new york saja plg tidak butuh 28000 ventilator dan bikinnya susah harganya plg murqh 50k dolar :big_biglaugh:
Performa mesin berlipat ganda setiap 30 tahun
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solar_kerosen wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 13:40 Whats up , amerika persiapqn pandemik di new york saja plg tidak butuh 28000 ventilator dan bikinnya susah harganya plg murqh 50k dolar :big_biglaugh:
Bedanya lagi, kl di sono alat2nya mgk sdh bikinan sendiri, ga perlu rebutan dgn negara lain & bikin industri alkesnya meningkat, yg msh impor mgk alat deteksinya yg bikinan roche swiss.. Kl di mari mayoritas msh hrs impor, selain yg ringan2 kyk masker & apd, jadinya kudu rebutan dgn negara lain & butuh usd byk.

Bantuan yg baru tiba ini bisa buat brp minggu ya?
https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/2020 ... -indonesia
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Dsini ada di institusi financial? Masih nagih utang ojol, taxol, petani, nelayan ga!? Lagi pada berantem tuh para kreditornya.
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pengendiesel wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:00 Kalo minjam angka infected/1jt populasi punya Italy, maka yang infected di Indo sekitar 400.000 yang infected.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Hmmmm....semoga nggak. Sekedar teori konstipasi :big_weee:

Di thread yang dilock kalo gak salah inget ada yang bilang ngapain bingung, very low mortality rate, jumlah koit gak sampe 10.000 (saat itu).
Well, anda yakin kalo low mortality rate itu bagus?? Ane sempat posting link ulasannya di page2 sebelum ini.

Misal ada 2 macam penyakit menular lewat kontak fisik.
Penyakit A mortality rate 95%. 100 orang infected, 95 dipanggil, 5 hidup.
Penyakit B mortality rate 5% (macam covid). 100 orang infected, 5 dipanggil, 95 hidup.

Plusnya penyakit B : kalo tertular, peluang hidup gede.
Minus penyakit B : ada pasukan 95 orang yang siap menyebarkan penyakit ini ke lebih banyak orang lagi.
Sedangkan di penyakit A, pasukan penyebarnya udah banyak yang dipanggil, hanya 5 orang yang bisa menyebarkan penyakit tsb.

Mungkin banyak rakyat kita yang masih belum paham bahaya di balik low mortality rate dan kenapa kita harus diam di rumah.
Jawabannya ada di kalimat om terakhir "harus diam dirumah" alias isolasi.

Selama isolasi terjadi, otomatis bahaya penularan menjadi rendah. Toh tingkat kematiannya jg rendah bukan ? Selain itu jg harus diperhitungkan juga faktor imunitas , dan pola hidup bersih dan sehat.
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Sementara kita disini kalo sampe masuk rsud pun belom tentu kebagian ranjang, ruang isolasi apalagi ventilator. Ini berita seorg wartawan :

https://m.detik.com/oto/berita/d-495693 ... rs-rujukan

Lalu Coba baca disini bagaimana karantina wajib 14 hari dilakukan di satu negara ini :

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/arti ... om-service

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Sepeti kita tau indo bahkan belon puncaknya. Ahli perkirain puncak di akhir april atau akhir mei

Bisa dilihat di grafik ini lihat titik di hari ke 58 skenario moderate :

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Kira kira grafik itu yg mirip. Liat puncaknya kira kira hr ke 87 sd 90
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https://m.detik.com/news/berita/d-49570 ... idget_news


Ohh tentu saja ferguso... coba aj jalan2 ke daerah yg socioeconomy k bawah macam priok cilincing dan sekitar.. boro2 physical distancing, yg ad muka nya pd hepi2 lg liburan panjang, saban hari nongkrong rame2

Mungkin ud saat nya polisi2 sini pake cara india, di pecut sambit kl ketemu wara wiri di jalanan..
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Mental issues sparked by pandemic could be 'silent killer': Red Cross

Nina Larson | Agence France-Presse | Geneva
Jakarta / Sat, March 28, 2020 / 02:08 pm

The Red Cross called Friday for increased psychological support to health workers and others fighting the COVID-19 pandemic, warning of rising suicides as a result of pressure and isolation.

Countries around the world have taken dramatic measures to try to halt the spread of the virus, which first emerged in China late last year, with more than three billion people now living under lockdown.

The demand for psycho-social support has "increased significantly" since the start of the crisis, said Jagan Chapagain, the secretary-general of the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC).

In an interview with AFP, he said he understood that providing mental health support "may not be very high on the agenda as we are trying to contain the virus," but stressed that the issue is important and "impacts millions and millions of people."

"I think that could be the big silent killer if sufficient attention is not paid to psychosocial needs and mental health needs," he said.

IFRC president Francesco Rocca agreed, telling journalists in a virtual briefing Friday that "the risk of suicide is increasing with the isolating of people."

The strict rules against gatherings and on maintaining physical distance from other people are expected to slow down the spread of the virus, which has claimed nearly 25,000 lives and infected more than half a million people worldwide.

But they are also clearly increasing levels of stress, depression, anxiety and other mental health issues.

Chapagain said increased stress also "affects many other health conditions."

"Higher stress means lower immunity. It impacts on your health, on your social relationships," he said, also pointing to reports of more domestic violence as families are cooped up together in a stressful environment.

"Psycho-social support... is terribly needed," Rocca said.

Read also: Echoes of Great Depression as Australian jobless queue for help

No hugs

He and Chapagain acknowledged that there were no statistics available yet to prove mental health issues and suicides are increasing, but said the discussions they are having with health workers and others clearly point in that direction.

"We know that this is the trend," said Rocca, who was speaking from his home country Italy, where he has been touring hard-hit medical facilities.

For "fragile people, there are a lot of consequences of being isolated," he said, adding that a few days ago an Italian nurse had committed suicide just days after testing positive for COVID-19 because she feared she had spread the disease to others.

Rocca spoke about the strain felt by health workers, and the Red Cross volunteers who sometimes assist them, when they cannot provide physical human contact to comfort patients and their families.

"We are missing... the hug," he said, describing how he himself felt earlier this week when a volunteer told him her mother had just died.

"I couldn't hug her. She was crying two meters away from me... And I couldn't hug," he said, adding that the pandemic in this respect was worse than other crises.

"Even in the conflict areas we can hug each other when we are afraid. The terrible thing of this (pandemic) is the lack of the human touch, the physical human touch," he said.
https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/202 ... cross.html

Rasanya miris ngeliat perawat di Italia yg bundir akibat terpapar corona, smg hal yg sama ga terjadi disini. Apalg kultur masyarakat sini yg guyub secara tidak langsung dipaksa untuk beradaptasi menjadi individualis akibat anjuran social/physical distancing ini yg mungkin aja bs berpengaruh besar terhadap kesehatan mental masyarakat kita, seharusnya pemerintah juga mulai memikirkan serta memitigasi dampak psikologis dari pandemi ini entah pada nakes maupun masyarakat umum
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Utk kesehatan mental setuju tp sesudah mitigasi pandemi lewat dulu aja

Sisi lebihnya org indo itu bener bener cepet lupa musibah

Sisi kurangnya tiap lewat musibah ga pernah mau siap siap cegah lagi

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DOHC wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:42 https://m.detik.com/news/berita/d-49570 ... idget_news


Ohh tentu saja ferguso... coba aj jalan2 ke daerah yg socioeconomy k bawah macam priok cilincing dan sekitar.. boro2 physical distancing, yg ad muka nya pd hepi2 lg liburan panjang, saban hari nongkrong rame2

Mungkin ud saat nya polisi2 sini pake cara india, di pecut sambit kl ketemu wara wiri di jalanan..
IYA PAK

Coba liat ini di afrika aja mereka bisa disiplin physical distancing :

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Sebenernya sy gagal paham semprot jalan raya pake desinfektan

Kalo di negara dingin ya iya emang penting

Tp di indo? Itu permukaan apapun di luar di jalanan tiap siang aja 40 celcius tambah UV terus menerus minimal enam jam virus sejago apapun pasti mati

Lebih baik dananya utk bagikan MASKER , sabun dan hand sanitiser dr rumah ke rumah

Apa karena kebiasaan masyarakat yg masih suka cium aspal sesudah turun dr pesawat/gocar ?
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Rapid Test Covid-19, Dokter hingga Ahli Kompak Usulkan PCR

Dokter dan para ilmuwan muda mengusulkan agar pemerintah menggunakan metode PCR ketimbang serologi dalam rapid test Covid-19, agar lebih efektif.


Jakarta, CNN Indonesia -- Pemerintah disarankan untuk menggunakan pemeriksaan rapid moleculer test berbasis PCR dalam pemeriksaan infeksi virus corona (Covid-19). Saat ini rapid test yang dilangsungkan masih memakai metode serologi atau dengan mengambil sampel darah.

Sementara metode PCR atau Polymerase Chain Reaction menurut para dokter dan ahli dinilai lebih akurat mendeteksi virus corona jenis baru atau SARS-CoV-2.

Ketua Perhimpunan Dokter Spesialis Paru Indonesia (PDPI) Agus Dwi Susanto menduga masih banyak kasus di tengah masyarakat yang belum terdeteksi. Kondisi ini menurut dia berpotensi meningkatkan penyebaran transmisi lokal sebab orang yang membawa virus tak cepat terdeteksi.

Itu sebabnya diperlukan metode pemeriksaan yang bisa lebih lekas mendeteksi virus corona.

"Sebenarnya yang lebih cepat adalah, bagaimana kami usulkan, terdapatnya pemeriksaan rapid molekuler test yang berbasis PCR. Sehingga dengan rapid molekuler test yang berbasis PCR ini dalam dua jam bisa dilakukan dan itu bisa disebar di beberapa RS rujukan atau RS itu bisa melakukan tes. Sehingga, tidak perlu menunggu," tutur Agus dalam wawancara di CNN Indonesia TV.

https://m.cnnindonesia.com/gaya-hidup/2 ... sulkan-pcr
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Java timur :

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Sundul grapik penting :

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mpvlover wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:03 Sebenernya sy gagal paham semprot jalan raya pake desinfektan

Kalo di negara dingin ya iya emang penting

Tp di indo? Itu permukaan apapun di luar di jalanan tiap siang aja 40 celcius tambah UV terus menerus minimal enam jam virus sejago apapun pasti mati

Lebih baik dananya utk bagikan MASKER , sabun dan hand sanitiser dr rumah ke rumah


Apa karena kebiasaan masyarakat yg masih suka cium aspal sesudah turun dr pesawat/gocar ?

Pinter, suhu aspal dan beton disiang hari bisa 35-41 derajat celcius
Performa mesin berlipat ganda setiap 30 tahun
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Desinfektan sebetulnya ditujukan utk Bakteri / Amuba

Virus cukup dgn sabun / degreaser / segala pelarut lemak, beres

Sila gugel2 / yutub serba serbi ttg Virus

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Dengan pemunculan fakta bahwa Candi Prambanan dibangun oleh sekumpulan Jin, yang dikisahkan secara turun-temurun, bahkan dituliskan dalam buku-buku sekolah sejak kelas Sekolah Dasar (SD), kita pun mewarisi keyakinan buruk bahwa Candi tersebut merupakan Mahakarya para makhluk halus yang berasal dari dunia antah-berantah.
Oya bagi yg percaya indo punya pasukan jin / ttuyul / jenggot

Breaking news : memang benar ada!! Sy dapet info dr dunia sebelah tesebut

Tapi infonya berhubung semua jin / tyul tersebut skrg udah tua dan komorbid semua (bikin candi prambannan dulu waktu masih muda dan kuat), ditambah di dunia ghaib ternyata tidak ada parasetamol apalagi rumah sakit, berita buruknya semua penghuni alam ghaib indo per hari ini udah tewas semua

Jadi buat calon presiden yg sebelom pemilu biasa ke gunung utk summon, sy sarankan spritiual distancing ajah
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Polisi di india lebih kreatip . Bayangin lehernya lagi goyang goyang
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mpvlover wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:48
Dengan pemunculan fakta bahwa Candi Prambanan dibangun oleh sekumpulan Jin, yang dikisahkan secara turun-temurun, bahkan dituliskan dalam buku-buku sekolah sejak kelas Sekolah Dasar (SD), kita pun mewarisi keyakinan buruk bahwa Candi tersebut merupakan Mahakarya para makhluk halus yang berasal dari dunia antah-berantah.
Oya bagi yg percaya indo punya pasukan jin / ttuyul / jenggot

Breaking news : memang benar ada!! Sy dapet info dr dunia sebelah tesebut

Tapi infonya berhubung semua jin / tyul tersebut skrg udah tua dan komorbid semua (bikin candi prambannan dulu waktu masih muda dan kuat), ditambah di dunia ghaib ternyata tidak ada parasetamol apalagi rumah sakit, berita buruknya semua penghuni alam ghaib indo per hari ini udah tewas semua

Jadi buat calon presiden yg sebelom pemilu biasa ke gunung utk summon, sy sarankan spritiual distancing ajah
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itu sih khas rakyatnya...

selalu percaya dongeng....

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DOHC wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:42 https://m.detik.com/news/berita/d-49570 ... idget_news


Ohh tentu saja ferguso... coba aj jalan2 ke daerah yg socioeconomy k bawah macam priok cilincing dan sekitar.. boro2 physical distancing, yg ad muka nya pd hepi2 lg liburan panjang, saban hari nongkrong rame2

Mungkin ud saat nya polisi2 sini pake cara india, di pecut sambit kl ketemu wara wiri di jalanan..
klo bikin ky india...

nanti muncul bibit telolis..


tau sendiri di sini....bummmm... :big_slap:


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