BMW X5 (3.0)VS MERC ML 350 VS MITSUBISHI PAJERO 3.0

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kemarin gw bawa avanza E '04 bolak balik cilegon-balaraja lari 160, kok enak ga goyang2, ternyata di belakang bawa genset dan tools lainnya hehehehe...
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ya iyalah..
klo ada penumpang yg ditengah..tanya deh, pasti perutnya nyesek krn bantingan nya. apalagi yg dibelakang..pernah gw...wow. Xenia/avanza sama.
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itulah knp gw jual avanza gw dulu.. tp kemarin rasanya stabil, karena ada beban berat di belakang, ada genset dan tools..
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jika diganti dgn shock belakangnya diganti dgn yg lebih empuk, bs membantu tuu..at least ga terbang2 yg dibelakang.
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hyayayhahaha..... :off_good_job: :off_good_job:

keren uy ngomongin MPV jadinya... uda di forum SUV, treat pajero X5 ma ML lgi... baguss.. lanjutt aja yok?

yg aneh kijang capsul ane pernah sampe 140kmh tpi bgtu ngintip GPS kok baru 110kmh? bru sadar... ni meterannya bisa kecepatan bngt gini.. padahal pke ban besar... ada yg pernah nyocokin ma GPS jg?

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@billy
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billyd1773dz wrote:hyayayhahaha..... :off_good_job: :off_good_job:

yg aneh kijang capsul ane pernah sampe 140kmh tpi bgtu ngintip GPS kok baru 110kmh? bru sadar... ni meterannya bisa kecepatan bngt gini.. padahal pke ban besar... ada yg pernah nyocokin ma GPS jg?
Yah, emang begitu. Ada GPS model lama seperti Dopod 800 dan HP 6515 yg kecepatan pantauan lebih rendah dari sebenarnya, tapi yg baru2 kayak Garmin Nuvi akurat kok. Alat yg paling akurat katanya yg dipakai buat reli apa namanya twinmaster atau apa itu. Maaf OOT.
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gmx wrote:kemarin gw bawa avanza E '04 bolak balik cilegon-balaraja lari 160, kok enak ga goyang2, ternyata di belakang bawa genset dan tools lainnya hehehehe...
Mungkin karena dirancang sebagai 6/7 seater, jadi setelan keras kalo cuman sendiri. Makanya bawa tools banyak2 jadi lebih enak...kaya bawa penumpang banyak. Jadi kalo sendiri bawa Avanza...isi karung beras aja hehehe...
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hehehe....kaya gw aja sekarang di bagasi mobil ditaro 2 karung pasir....tapi bukan supaya nyaman, tapi supaya ban belakang ada traksi :mrgreen:
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mobilnya rwd?
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waduh mpv campur suv.......heheheh.....sedan aja sekalian..... :big_peace:
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asudarsono wrote:
Yah, emang begitu. Ada GPS model lama seperti Dopod 800 dan HP 6515 yg kecepatan pantauan lebih rendah dari sebenarnya, tapi yg baru2 kayak Garmin Nuvi akurat kok. Alat yg paling akurat katanya yg dipakai buat reli apa namanya twinmaster atau apa itu. Maaf OOT.
hehehe bener om.. GPS pada mulai keluar d pke untuk militer, kemudian ada kelonggaran bisa di pke sipil, namun akurasi di batasi +-100m sedangkan gps militer bisa punya akurasi sampai +-5m, skrang kyanya uda lebih longgar lagi.. bwat sipil bisa berkisar +-50mran... militer? hehhe secret kli yah...

ini ngetes speednya sya rendengin N95 HTC Tytn II dgn Garmin Quest+external antena...
hasilnya ya mirip2 lah... bedanya nda lebih dri 10kmh..

hueheuheuhehh...:D :D :D
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ah gps di jkt atau indo yg penting ada nama jalannya. akurat 100mtr atau ga, tetep aja kita harus nyesuain real dgn map gps nya sewkt jalan.
soalnya, tau sendirilah, jalanan disini kan kadang2 bisa berubah rambu2. Update map nya jg belum tentu cepat.
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peta Indonesia paling akurat ada di www.navigasi.net mana gratis lagi. Lengkap seIndonesia, nggak cuma Jawa Bali.
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bs utk garmin ga?
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Garmin, walau katanya ada versi Symbiannya. dicek langsung ke sana aja
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peta navigasi.net itu peta buatan hobyist, lengkep ndanya relatif sih.... pling lengkep mapnya garmin di gabungin map navigasi.net.... lengkep dan bisa route...

cuma masih kalah dgn map bawaan garmin quest bokap.... ntah pke map apa itu.. jalan2nya sampe pedalaman yg skrng tinggal jalan setapak di map itu ada.... navigasi.net atw garmin yg baru kalah jauh deh.. cuma nda bisa di extraks dri devicenya uy...

map navigasi net bisa di baca garmin, untuk mobile OS namanya garmin mobile XT (GMXT) bisa bwat N95 (S60V3) dan windows mobile, jg ada versi PC windowsnya.

hehehe akurasi juga butuh sih... klw di persimpangan, klw akurasinya payah.. bisa bingung tu..

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betul, butuh memang.
tp tau sendiri lah kondisi jalan kita seperti apa.
Garmin xt yg gw pk, lumayan komplit. tp lg mau cari update map nya lagi. ada yg tau dimana?
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klw nyari peta indo d situs luar
ipmart-forum.com
atw disini jg lengkep sini
garmin citynavigator pling baru V4 om... klw sya jalan2 sih, keluar kota lebih lengkep navigasi.net tpi klw dlm kota lebih lengkep garmin...

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biar lengkap, ada juga :

Peta otomasi : Garmin, lengkap
Peta mapking : PPC, nggak lengkap, cuma 1 kota
Peta Nusamap : PPC, lengkap
Peta Nokia : Symbian, blm pernah pakai
Peta Googlemap : multiplatform, blm pernah pakai
Peta yg bundled ama alatnya

Banyak ya. Silahkan dipilih mana yg disuka.
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hehehe linknya jg dunk om....

hampir semua pernah d coba, nusamap kelemahanya di softwarenya kurang userfriendly, dan fasilitas rountingnya nda sebagus Garmin MXT, mapnya untuk jalan2 lama lebih lengkep dri garmin.tpi jalan baru blm up to date, software type : Windows Mobile

garmin, mulai seri citynavigator buat peta sendiri jadi up to date sesuai kondisi dalam kota skrng, tpi jalan2 lama yg di anggap "tidak layak" untuk dlewati sering tidak di cantumkan, software GMXT sangat userfriedly dan stabil, bisa rounting menyimpang POI hingga mengirim kordinat melalui SMS.

solosystem mesti bundle dgn hardware GPS sendiri, kualitas peta sangat lengkap jalan2 baru up date dan jalan 2 lama pun ada, bahkan jalan yg sudah tinggal setapak aja ada di sini. system langganan akan di beri update secara gratis oleh penjual. garmin quest dan map yg awal sepertinya berbasis map yg sma dgn solosystem, saat sya coba blm support rounting software nya masih kalah userfrindly dri GMXT. sayang harus menggunakan device dri solosystem sendiri.

map nokia kelengkapannya sama persis dgn garmin city navigator indonesia, penggunaannya enak bwat baca peta, lebih ringan simple klw navigasi routing dan fasilitas jauh lebih enakan Garmin MXT, untuk navigasi suara harus bayar. nokia map versi terakhir, support foto satelit seperti Google map dan tentu sja harus konek internet, tampilan seperti google earth(bukan google map) mini sehingga dri tampilan peta lebih baik dri GMXT

google map, di indo cuma bisa menggunakan peta foto satelit sja, itupun harus selalu terhubung ke internet untuk mendownload peta. peta jalan2 blm ada yg layak pakai, tidak bisa rounting d indo, mesti konek ke internet, klw pke BB sih cocok...

mapking dan tomtom, kelengkapan peta hanya di jakarta saja.. ntah klw skrng sudah aa update yg lebih lengkap.mapking support Geotagging.

navigasi.net peta handmade bwatan hobyist. ada 2 versi, versi share tampa POI dan versi fullvernya, dgn POI lengkap. untuk jalan2 kampung d jawa jauh lebih lengkap dri garmin citynavigator, namun di dalam kota (ex:bandung), masi kurang lengkap. coverage secara keseluruhan ini yg terluas, sumatra kalimantan bali dll d claim sudah tercover. tpi untested uy..

cmiiw yah..

linknya? mbah google aja deh... hehehe
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Ada satu lagi yg perlu diketahui : satu alat bisa diisi beberapa peta secara bergantian. Jadi kita ndak perlu pusing2 dgn brand loyalty.

Jadi, satu alat Garmin bisa dipasang citynavigator, otomasi, navigasi dkk. Kalau di suatu daerah lengkap A ya tinggal pilih itu, di daerah lain ganti pilih peta B.

Teman yg pakai Nokia E71 juga diisi macam2 peta : Google, Nokia, Navigasi dll.

Kalau pakai PPC malah aku ndak tahu apa bisa multipeta.

Note : pemakaian petanya one by one ya, Belum pernah aku bisa campursari gitu.
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yup btul sekali om..... klw pke handheld ber OS itu sangat bisa di lakukan..
d N95 symbian s60v3 di instal garmin+nokia map+gmap dulu pernah tom2 dan mapking cuma di apus karena tdk berguna..
d ppc htc tytn windows mobil 6 bokap ada mapking+nusamap+garmin
map garminnya aj d ganti2 klw di kota pke citynavigator, kluar navigasinet..

klw handheld GPS MIO kini pke OS winCE, kta salesnya sih dia bisa nerima tele atlas dan garmin, software map lain jg mudah aja di instalnya..

sebenernya klw sesama map garmin bisa di campurin.. cuma klw yg citynavigator ada proteksinya nda bisa langsung d campur kya map dri navigasi.net. klw yg navgasnet bisa, pernah sya campur dgn map topografi.. walau bacanya jd bingung jg sih... akhirnya d balikin lgi..

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dari avanza ke garmin. Apaan ini? Garmen? maklum, wong deso.

Pak Mods, apa ini ga OOT? ato FFT(far from topic) weh.. hehehe....
dari pada tret ini sepi kali ya.... :e-whistle:
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terus..mana nih, ada yg tau link utk update garmin xt ga?