Toyota sedang mengalami ujian berat - PART 02

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bushkntl wrote:bingung juga liat si toyotaman semangat banget jelekin satu merek emang pernah bikin salah apa toyota sama lo? kalo emang toyota pernah bikin salah mending lo jelasin secara detail kejadiannya apa daripada cuma copas dari sana sini terus bikin postingan pake font gede2 kayak orang udik yang gak tau cara pake telpon yang bener. Gw sih baru mulai baca2 sm lagi tapi gaya emosi si toyotman ini mirip sama member lama yg rada2 juga si sithlord jadi toyotaman mending lo baca2 deh kebelakang liat metamorphosis si sithlord dari car enthusiast menjadi SM village idiot karena tingkahnya sendiri yg kalo gak salah sampe berani memakai keluarganya untuk bersumpah atas suatu merek.
Kasian amat lu Sithlord/toyotaman... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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bushkntl wrote:
FortunerMan wrote:Wah...ane juga jaman kuliah delivery chinese food pake Civic (Grand Civic kalo di Indonesia - di Amerika gak ada grand2nya :mrgreen: )...spionnya cuman satu,..
hehe gw sering liat tu dulu civic dgn spion cuma satu, tipe DX ya kalo gak salah? Bumper masih hitam dan kaca masih diputer?
Betul sekali...si mobil penghasil duit - lumayan kan waktu rupiah jebol jadi 16 ribu sedollar :mrgreen:
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bushkntl wrote:bingung juga liat si toyotaman semangat banget jelekin satu merek emang pernah bikin salah apa toyota sama lo? kalo emang toyota pernah bikin salah mending lo jelasin secara detail kejadiannya apa daripada cuma copas dari sana sini terus bikin postingan pake font gede2 kayak orang udik yang gak tau cara pake telpon yang bener. Gw sih baru mulai baca2 sm lagi tapi gaya emosi si toyotman ini mirip sama member lama yg rada2 juga si sithlord jadi toyotaman mending lo baca2 deh kebelakang liat metamorphosis si sithlord dari car enthusiast menjadi SM village idiot karena tingkahnya sendiri yg kalo gak salah sampe berani memakai keluarganya untuk bersumpah atas suatu merek.
Bener banget kata si om bush :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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jd nda ada yg mau nerangin nih...........knapa ada nya oil sludge d mesin itu adalah kesalahan daripada mesin nya, bukan karena kesalahan oli nya?? :ungg: :ungg:
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Katanya si situs, ada pipa yang nggak beres shg menyebabkan oli yang lewat situ jadi sludge.

Menurut saya kok biasa aja, emang banyak lokasi di mesin Toyota yang berpotensi mengendapkan kotoran. Istilahnya kalau oli menggenang di sono, lama2 oilnya menguap dan menyisakan kotoran sisa pembakaran. Makanya kalau turun mesin, bagian dalam mesin digosok, agar kotoran itu terbuang dan mesin kinclong kembali.
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Toyotaman, bos ente demen banget sih ngubek2 berita mengenai masalah toyota di us? Sekali lagi gw bilang kalo bos emang mau educate kita orang caranya yg bener dong bos jangan cuma copas2 doang.

Soal unintended acceleration bos toyo pernah pake audi manual sesudah seri 5000? Perhatiin gak susah banget untuk melakukan heel to toe dgn audi2 manual? Ini semua gara2 audi 5000 pernah kena kasus juga di US sampai akhirnya harus melakukan recall/modifikasi di pedal controlnya, so masalah recall gara2 unintended acceleration gak unik ke toyota doang. Makanya seperti gw bilang mata bos loyoman jangan cuma mau lihat apa yg mau dilihat tapi buka wawasan seluasnya biar bisa bikin perbandingan yg fair terhadap semua brand.

Toyota di ubek2 di us juga sedikit banyak ada hubungan dengan industri otomotif US yang lagi kacau waktu itu(sebetulnya smp hari ini masih but that's not for our discussion on this thread) knp honda dan yg lain gak di single out? Gampang aja 1. Memang lg gak ada masalah sama productnya 2. Bukan saingan/ancaman terbesar buat the detroit clowns. Lagipula jangan percaya sama semua berita yg di keluarin sama US mesti di filter bos kalo nggak ketipu lo seperti kasus WMD in iraq yg sampe hari ini blom ketemu juga.

Bos toyotaman memang kelihatannya US big automotive nation dan itu memang benar tapi gw kasih tau aja ya rata2 driver di US gak becus nyetir jadi bisa aja semua kasus yg dikumpulin but toyota sebagian di dapat dr driver2 yg gak becus itu.
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kbeneran sy lg browsing nya dr hape, jd rada susah buka2 yutub :ungg:
tp kok bsa hanya gara2 jalur oli yg kurang rapi (misalkan), trus bsa merubah oli menjadi sludge??? :ungg: :ungg:
ga mudeng nih beneran.............
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anehh.... mesin nya bersludge oli tapi koq masi kuat yahh dipake gila2an tiap ari... di belahan dunia sana malah ampe jadi kendaraan tentara militan sgala... emang toyota ini fenomenal, mesin bersludge tapi kuat banget... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

mrek laen sperti honda apalagi nissan mana bisa kaya gt... dikasi bensin busuk aja uda rewel...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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btw oli bersludge di dalem mesin itu kayanya ada beberapa sebab deh... penggantian oli yg lewat jauh, penggantian oli yg ga bener, oil filter yg ga perna diganti, pake oli kualitas jelek... tapi kalo rajin2 ganti oli dan filter scara berkala sehh mustinya gpp, mesin korea jadul macam hyundai accent (bimantara cakra) aja ga ampe bersludge sgala tuh padahal uda ngebul tuh knalpot....
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote:btw oli bersludge di dalem mesin itu kayanya ada beberapa sebab deh... penggantian oli yg lewat jauh, penggantian oli yg ga bener, oil filter yg ga perna diganti, pake oli kualitas jelek... tapi kalo rajin2 ganti oli dan filter scara berkala sehh mustinya gpp, mesin korea jadul macam hyundai accent (bimantara cakra) aja ga ampe bersludge sgala tuh padahal uda ngebul tuh knalpot....
berarti bener khan nalar saya??? :ungg:
terbentuknya sludge di mesin dikarenakan oli nya?? :ungg:
nahh kok bsa yg d salahkan malah jalur oli nya??
mohon pencerahan :thanks:
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sedikit berawan disini kayaknya ya..... :e-think:
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emang agak berawan ya Wan..... :e-think:
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panggil pawang buat ngusir mendung :e-think:
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Belum pernah lihat mesin Harrier, tapi melihat posisinya yg "kebetulan" di pucuk paling atas mesin paling krn kavitasi atau sejenis itu.

Biarin aja, turun mesin seberapa sih, yang punya Harrier, Camry dll orang kaya ini.
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Jiahhh baru tau ada situs khusus "toyotasludge" :e-doh: :e-doh:
Emang semakin tinggi pohon semakin kuat angin meniup.. :mrgreen:
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asudarsono wrote:Biarin aja, turun mesin seberapa sih, yang punya Harrier, Camry dll orang kaya ini.
Harrier/Camry gak pake mesin Peugeot...gak perlu khawatir.
Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Lancia, Peugeot and AMC:
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These are cars we fondly remember as rolling boat payments. We'd see them coming into the shop — usually on the back end of a tow truck — and we'd know it would be a good month. Unfortunately, these manufacturers are now on our fecal roster because they've pulled out of the U.S. market. Fiat and Alfa may come back in the next few years, even if they have to sneak in disguised as Chryslers. We just hope they haven't improved too much.

We could live with all the other cars on this list if we could just have a dozen customers with these heaps. Guys, please come back! We miss you!
Emang sering sih liat Peugeot mogok di jalan, padahal populasinya sedikit. French cars...kasian. Gak bisa bersaing di Amerika...kabur :mrgreen:
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ga ada abis2nya ini hujan berangin...

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Hehehehe, udah kangen dia ama aku.

Peugeot sekarang emang banyak yang kedapetan digendong. Maklum pameran lagi banyak.

Apa rombongan Toyota Racing Dropout nggak digendong? Wah berani ya, nyetir mobil di Jakarta.
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