Gimana Bikin Mesin Diesel Ga Brisik...??

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tapi broo. panther ane yang 2.5 kapsul. gk berisik2 amat ah klo jalan.
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iyalah, mesin diesel mesti ada suaranya dikit, biar terasa khas dieselnya...
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Abu2 wrote:iyalah, mesin diesel mesti ada suaranya dikit, biar terasa khas dieselnya...
bukan terasa khas dieselnya wan, tp biar terasa nyetir gituuuu......... :upss:
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DOHC wrote:diesel mah kalo kaga brisik kaya ada yg kurang gt.... ibarat makan gado2 kaga pake bumbu kacang nya.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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m4rio wrote:tapi broo. panther ane yang 2.5 kapsul. gk berisik2 amat ah klo jalan.
emang kaga brisik koq bro... panther ane yg masi jenis kotak aja bole diadu tuh ama panther kapsul non turbo... cuman kan kadang orang2 suka berlebihan mengenai diesel.. brisik ampe bangunin tetangga lah, asep pekat ampe bikin kaga kliatan pengemudi di blakang lah, getaran ampe bikin tremor lah... itu smua kan hanya mitos atau utk mobil2 diesel yg ga kerawat.... nah kalo diesel nya kerawat, otomatis tuh suara dan getaran apalagi asap nya mah dikit dan masi bisa ditolerir sigh.... lah wong PS ama fortuner diesel aja brisik koq kalo didengerin dari luar....
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iyah bener juga...orang2 kadang2 lebay dlm kasi asumsi mesin diesel otomotif....jadi dianggapnya semua mesin disel bisingnya sama dengan mesin statis yanmar/kubota/dongfeng...padahal tidak selalu...IMHO
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Turunin kompresi,dijamin lebih senyap,tapi tenaga memble... Perna coba kijang kapsul tahun 2004,km jalan 600rb,suara mesin uda mendekati bensin ga ada garingnya mesin diesel lagi tenaga memble,pertanda kompresinya da turun...
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klo mau ga berisik, pakein aja peredam yg baik..... pasti deh lbh senyap..... wlp ga se senyap mesin bensin.......

btw udah ada yg usulin apa belon ya........ sorry klo dah ada yg usulin spt ini............... :ungg:
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@ jamesbond007: hah? kijang diesel 2004 uda ja;an 600rb km? dipake kemana aja tuh bro? gila!! wkwkkw
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hahahah serius neh bro uda dipake jalan kemana aja.. punya gua aja lgx diesel 2001 uda jalan 280.000 km
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6 tahun 600rebu, 1 tahun 100 rebu, bearti 1 bulan jalan 8000an km... bearti satu hari jalan 280an km... gilee... taksi kali yahh tuh mobil.... panther ane aja 10 taon baru 310 rebu km...
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DOHC wrote:6 tahun 600rebu, 1 tahun 100 rebu, bearti 1 bulan jalan 8000an km... bearti satu hari jalan 280an km... gilee... taksi kali yahh tuh mobil.... panther ane aja 10 taon baru 310 rebu km...
Nah sebenernya ini yang menarik... dari awal baca tret nya.. buset 6 taun 600 ribu....... :upss:
Anda sudah TEST DRIVE belum?...
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satu2 nya penjelasan yg masuk akal ttg tuh mobil sehh yahhh itu mobil dipake buat rental atau "taksi"... gilee... 280 km mahh uda kaya jakarta puncak PP tuh rute nya....

rekor tergila ane aja yg dulu perna slama 3 bulan rute harian nya muter2 jakarta aja cuman 4000 km per bulan nya....
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benernya sumber suara berisiknya mesin diesel konvensional tu dari pompa injektornya, bunyi ketukan "tek tek tek " dari pompanya, sementara kalo mesinnya sendiri waktu di gas bunyinya "nguuuung" kaya mesin bensin biasa.. jd emang lebih masuk akal klo pompa injektornya diberi oli lewat solarnya. coba bandingin dengan yg udh commonrail, pasti lebih halus,kan..
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diesel mania wrote:benernya sumber suara berisiknya mesin diesel konvensional tu dari pompa injektornya, bunyi ketukan "tek tek tek " dari pompanya, sementara kalo mesinnya sendiri waktu di gas bunyinya "nguuuung" kaya mesin bensin biasa.. jd emang lebih masuk akal klo pompa injektornya diberi oli lewat solarnya. coba bandingin dengan yg udh commonrail, pasti lebih halus,kan..
klo diberi oli, ane khawatir asepnye jadi nambah ngebul lohhh...... :ungg:
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katanya kalo diesel udah ngebul kayak truk or bus, injektornya bermasalah... solusinya hanya dibersihkan, apa bener? atau ganti? :mrgreen:
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bukan,bro
maksudnya oli additif yg emang khusus dicampurin ke solarnya (baca hal.1)... dgn asumsi bunyi mesin diesel konvensional berisik lebih banyak disumbang oleh bunyi pompa injektornya... n pompa injektor juga butuh pelumas dari solar dimana solar itu sendiri juga mengandung pelumas (cetane).. jd klo bunyi pompa injektornya kurang otomatis berisiknya juga berkurang,toh..
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diesel mania wrote:benernya sumber suara berisiknya mesin diesel konvensional tu dari pompa injektornya, bunyi ketukan "tek tek tek " dari pompanya, sementara kalo mesinnya sendiri waktu di gas bunyinya "nguuuung" kaya mesin bensin biasa.. jd emang lebih masuk akal klo pompa injektornya diberi oli lewat solarnya.
1. Daya lumas solar / pemberian zat pelumas ke solar, utk menurunkan angka HFRR. Konon yg paling ampuh adalah tambahan BioDiesel sebesar 2%, hanya saja pastikan BioDiesel bebas air, bebas Iodine, dll. Utk yg lebih safe & ekonomis = oli 2T Low smoke.

2. CN (Cetane NUmber) yg lebih tinggi juga membantu membuat mesin lebih alus.

3. Timing injeksi, jika lebih mundur maka suara mesin juga akan lebih halus, hanya saja nanti di Piggyback harus diatur = saat di atas 2000 RPM Timing injeksi harus dimajukan.

4. Nozzle Pressure juga berpengaruh thd suara mesin.
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kalo yang ane denger katanya ada juga yang bilang mesin diesel suaranya dari ledakannya di ruang bakar ama injectornya..... yang bner yg mana donk nih?
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m4rio wrote:kalo yang ane denger katanya ada juga yang bilang mesin diesel suaranya dari ledakannya di ruang bakar ama injectornya..... yang bner yg mana donk nih?
Dari mesinnya sendiri
1. Compression ratio, lower is smoother
2. Timing injeksi
3. AFR
4. Metode Injeksi : straight injection atau Pilot - Main Injection

Dari faktor external = pembebanan thd mesin
Maka itu
1. Nozzle Pressure / beban pompa injeksi
2. Pembebanan mesin (saat berakselerasi / menarik beban)
Juga berpengaruh thd suara mesin

Faktor BBM :
CN
HFRR / lubrikasi

Disain intake & exhaust
Disain air filter / air filter box
Disain muffler

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BADAK wrote:dipake jalan ke mars kali. wakakaka
Diputar kontaknya di posisi Off pasti kalau cuman ama Rolls royce pasti senyapan mesin diesel ...

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Unta_item wrote:
BADAK wrote:dipake jalan ke mars kali. wakakaka
Diputar kontaknya di posisi Off pasti kalau cuman ama Rolls royce pasti senyapan mesin diesel ...

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Yang Jelas kalau pake diesel bisa ngasepin pengendara motor yang ngak tau sopan santun berlalulintas,
Kita salib lalu oper verneling lebih tinggi lalu injak Gass....

Silahken makan asap item ....
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