What is the perfect 'city car'

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Mobil buat perkotaan yg plg ideal buat gw ya AvXen ato HRV... Simply krn dimensi kecil, GC tinggi, irit bbm, tenaga pas utk dalkot...

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yang penting
-irit banget
-empuk
-kedap suara nya bagus-
-bisa lewat banjir
- tenaga mobil yg cukup
-matic at least 5 speed
-awet ga rewel
-spareparts murah gampang
-ac dingin
-alarm yg bagus
-jok supportive dan interior nyaman
-audio bagus

itu aja kayanya cukup. tp kira2 apa ya yang kaya gitu
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Ford Fiesta gw rasa bagus.. sayang ATPMnya kabur..
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Vote vw up swap mesin R8,... :glodak:
FWD + FWD + 4WD + 4WD = :big_cat:
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M151 MUTT dgn engine kijang 7k carby n pasang AC paling dingin spy tdk cepat marah kalo ada yg nyangkut di dpn atau blakang

engine asli simpan rumah sj

going outdoor in jkt now = go to killzone
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Nambahin:

Bayar nominal pajak nya ngga segede bakar n buang motor matic baru tiap tahun :mky_03:
4 wheels move the body, 2 wheels move the soul.
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Fiat 500, suka banget, banger, bangeeeeet
emansipasi perempuan....tapi jangan panggil saya "om"
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newrubble wrote:M151 MUTT dgn engine kijang 7k carby n pasang AC paling dingin spy tdk cepat marah kalo ada yg nyangkut di dpn atau blakang

engine asli simpan rumah sj

going outdoor in jkt now = go to killzone
Sebetulnya ini akan jd mobil yg bagus. Bodi kuat, mesin torsinya gede, low maintenance cost, low tax...

Cuma 1 masalahnya; boros...
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geely panda .... engine parts (mr479) = toyota kr engine parts .... byk parts avanza 1300 yg bisa masuk

kalo susah terpasang bisa dibantu injak yg keras pake kaki atau pukul keras martil
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Kalo ngomongin city car menurut perspektif saya berdasarkan merk merk kuat cuman ada hrv 1.5 cvt untuk jakarta, mayan menempati semua kriteria yg ada kecuali kenyamanan ya toleransi sedikit deh hahaha
- yang kenceng kalah sama yang wet look
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Kriteria 'perfect' tiap orang beda, tergantung latar belakang sosial ekonomi. Buat kaum privileged/'the have' pilihannya rata2 'real city cars' standar 'the first world'. Buat rata2 warga kota macam Jakarta yg penting murah, irit bbm, ASS mudah dan murah, muat banyak, dimensi kecil, gc lumayan tinggi, turning radius kecil, bisa disiksa, kenyamanan dan kekedapan so so, minimal ada airbag-abs, ada ac dan radio tape build in biar gak kepanasan sambil dengerin dangdut koplo. Sekarang duo calya-sigra yg kayaknya mendekati. Tapi yg lebih penting adalah the perfect public transport system. Sorry, hanya mencoba mewakili pendapat kaum jelata.
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kalo mobil dianggap (n sptnya byk org di indo anggap mobil itu) investment (in pride n proud)

di negara level indo hrs mobil yg

brandholder nya tdk kabur (meski exist tapi dia tutup dapur ya percuma .....)

low breakdown rate
huge dealers' discount

kalo kita tinggal kabur n dijarah aborijin locals ya kita tdk merasa rugi (dijual juga cuma bisa dapat receh)

kalo safety features anggap sj itu ornamental bonus krn blm tentu bisa fungsi kalo di pake di indo (benz b class saja steeringwheel copot n bikin mati driver pas crashing di tollroad ..... apalagi brands lain)

ini kita bicara indo jaman skrg ya bukan 2014 atau sblm sblm
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kalo impian oe pribadi sih daihatsu copen.
kei car 660cc turbo, manual, light & efficient, dan 2 seater saat ini cukup buat oe..
mudah2an kebeli.. :)
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Yg ukurannya kecil, ada panoramic nya, tenaga gede
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newrubble wrote:(benz b class saja steeringwheel copot n bikin mati driver pas crashing di tollroad ..... apalagi brands lain)
kayaknya tau ini case. si nyonya istri pejabat yang crash di toll JORR klo ga salah.

eniwe, saya suka city car jaman dulu.

starlet kotak. bentuke timeless, kecil, ruang mesin lega, masih bisa kliatan kap mesin saat posisi nyetir.

pake velg kaleng+dop nya, warna merah asli. duh, kangen starko.

saya pernah di starko isi 5 orang dewasa dari cimahi ke bandung kota. aman, ga gasruk.

klo suara luar, anggep aja bonus supaya di mobil ga sepi2 amat.
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sebenernya dulu ada maruti karimun estilo 2007-2012, menurut saya pas/cukup untuk city car indo:
- ukuran kecil
- model streamline (modern nggak kotak2)
- irit
- headroom lega,
- bagasi juga luas
- GC tinggi
- suspensi empuk
- imobilizer
- brand suzuki, ASS okelah
cuman sayang kayaknya gak gitu bagus jualannya, generasi penerusnya malah jadi LCGC n bentuknya jelek
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Best City car.... Di Indonesia.
- Needs a hybrid or electric powertrain.... More linear power delivery, yet far efficient. Mesin gasoline mau cc dikurangin, silinder dikurangin lagi (mungkin ke depan cuma gasoline 2silinder 500cc kayak motor), tetep gak bisa efisien kalo udah kena macet... Still Hybrid masih lebih sensibel dibanding EV atau Plug-in Hybrid... Jadi buat di Indonesia Hybrid lebih cocok... Battery charging waktu braking... kayak Prius.
- Gak makan space garasi atau jalan... Banyak orang Indonesia rumahnya di gang senggol maksa punya mobil gede - gede padahal pakenya ya dalem kotaan aja... At least kalo diparkir di pinggir jalan gak bikin macet sekampung...
- But still needs a spacious cabin.... Buat orang yang kerja suka angkut-angkut barang. Jadi bentuk harus kotak. Aero? Mobil perkotaan paling jalan mentok 60-80 km/h.... aero doesn't matter much. Apalagi klw mesinnya hybrid atau electric... K-Car di Jepang juga kotak-kotak.
- Cheap running cost and affordable spare parts... Mobil perkotaan kalo di Indonesia akan sangat tersiksa dengan kondisi jalan berlubang - lubang... belom cara nyetir tiap orang beda - beda. Kalo parts slow moving/fast moving nya mahal ya tekor juga dompet walaupun mobilnya murah...
- Jangan overspec paling penting... Jangan tambahin cruise control, rain sensor blablabla... Cukup airbag + ABS saja... Mesin juga jangan pake embel embel rasio kompresi dewa jadi mintanya harus BBM bagus minimal RON98.. Kan matek yang beli entar gak jadi ngirit...
- Paling penting, harus ada policy yang jelas dari pemerintah tentang batasan penggunaan citycar ini supaya mengurangi angka kecelakaan... Saya suka miris liat citycar macem Agya/Ayla dipake buat long haul trip... No offense buat yang pake Agya/Ayla buat luar kotaan... Juga kalo ada yang protes kenapa Agya gak kuat nanjak... Ya simply gak diciptakan buat daerah pegunungan... Sewa Avanza kalo mau nanjak2...

Bayangan saya?
Smaller version of Honda Freed with 660cc Hybrid + Turbo (Konsep design nya Freed bagus ... aero dapet... space juga dapet)
Daihatsu Tanto Hybrid
Calya / Sigra Hybrid
Small 4WD pickup with Hybrid... Carry atau GranMax pickup Hybrid deh (at least klw tinggal di pedesaan masih bisa isi bensin in case di desanya gak ada colokan listrik / listriknya gak kuat)
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Hybrid itu yg mslh kan batrenya.. krn ditaro di lante mobil(krn space utilizing&weight distribution), klo kerendem banjir (mslh perkotaan di indo) yg prtama kena y tu batre... mana batrenya ratusan volt jg ~.~ (for good reasons ofcourse)

Oya... hybrid pajeknya gmn? Itu engine kan 2 (motor bakar sm motor listrik)

Smaller freed w/keicar spec (minus hybrid)? Honda N-box

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doge wrote:Hybrid itu yg mslh kan batrenya.. krn ditaro di lante mobil(krn space utilizing&weight distribution), klo kerendem banjir (mslh perkotaan di indo) yg prtama kena y tu batre... mana batrenya ratusan volt jg ~.~ (for good reasons ofcourse)

Oya... hybrid pajeknya gmn? Itu engine kan 2 (motor bakar sm motor listrik)

Smaller freed w/keicar spec (minus hybrid)? Honda N-box

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Masalah battery ... Prius sudah terbukti bisa berendem banjir setau saya. Tinggal design dan battery protectionnya gimana aja.

Nah ini kan bicara diluar faktor harga hehe... kalau sudah ngomong harga yaaa ujungnya mobil macem Calya Sigra paling ideal lol. Kalo peraturan pemerintah diubah kurasa gak mengurangi kemungkinan mobil hybrid akan lebih "berani" masuk. Buktinya Camry Hybrid cukup banyak yang pake :big_smile]
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Suzuki Vitara Brezza... 1.3 turbodiesel + AMT.

Kecil tapi memadai.
Torsi (secara teori) lumayan kuat.
Genangan kecil masih bisa lewat.
Design kalem, tidak bikin tetangga sirik.
Tanggal genap - Mini Cooper S Clubman R55
Tanggal ganjil - Lexus RX 270
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hmmm city car ya om
kalo image saya mengenai city car ya mobil buat perkotaan
jadi kriterianya
1. mesin irit & bandel (secara ini mobil bakal di bawa pergi hampir tiap hari)
2. murah, di bawah 180 jeti (kalo kejemur ato lecet gak sayang gitu)
3. suspensi nyaman (empuk, kan gak buat kenceng2an)
4. akomodasi minimal 4 orang masuk dengan nyaman, headroom, legroom, posisi duduk yang nyaman
5. ac dingin (wajib, sekarang kota kota panasss)
7. perawatan mudah, gak gampang rewel
8. desain gak perlu cakep, yang penting gak jelek jelek amat (colek etios valco, jeleknyaa)
9. ini gak penting sih, tapi warna silver (lecet gak keliatan, kotor gak terlalu keliatan, big no untuk hitam)
10. lincah, radius putar kecil, bisa masuk gang2 dan gampang parkir
mobil yang masuk:
1. datsun go
2. mirage
3. si kembar A
4. calya sigra
5. karimun wagon
6. brio
7. picanto
8. ceria
'98 new galant st black -5 mt
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Kalo saya pilih panther buat jakarta city's car.. irit, bandel, murah & hati tenang dari senggol, baret, tabrak motor/bus/bajaj.. tinggal masukin ketok magic pinggir jalan beres.. :upss:
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Golf Mk7 GTI atau Mazda Miata :ungg:

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The best City car?
Ofcourse Toyota Sienta :big_grin:
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perfect city car kriteria sy
gesit u/ sruntulan
irit n bs selip2
berkelas ga pasaran
bandel
part terjangkau

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