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brp ya??? kl liat di tetangga sy lbih banyak lg..... ada 4 speed rwd m/t, 4 speed rwd a/t, 3 speed 4wd m/t, 5 speed fwd a/t, 5 speed rwd m/t, banyak dah.............
ngapain si nanya2??????
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Hansen wrote:
poeticmind wrote:
ak4ng wrote:kl scr teknis, bedanya matic cvt and matic konvensional apa aj yg mbedakan????
rasanya dulu sudah pernah dibahas oleh GTR, nanti sy posting ulang disini deh... yg jelas salah satunya adalah kalo AT konven itu terbatas pada 4-7gear rata2... berbeda dengan AT cvt itu ga ada batasan gear, tapi unlimited..jadi selama power mesin masih ada ATnya bisa digeber..paling2 mesin nya yg jebol, ATnya cuma senyum2 aja...
rasanya ga mungkin deh kalo CVT itu ga ada batasannya, pasti ada suatu titik dimana pulleynya membesar ke ukuran (diameter) maksimum yg dirancang. kalo ga ada batasan mah ntar pulleynya jadi monster raksasa :big_weee:

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om dog udah pake cvt ya??????????
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grand livina udah CVT blom ya ? :ungg: :big_slap:

maklum cuma bisa naik dan bawak gaktau seluk beluk mbil sendiri :big_slap:
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bongkar aja bro..............
ntar pasti kliatan koq
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susah ah bro
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bawa sini aja GLnya........................
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Gak bole nanya k4ng?
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FMEAKD wrote:grand livina udah CVT blom ya ? :ungg: :big_slap:

maklum cuma bisa naik dan bawak gaktau seluk beluk mbil sendiri :big_slap:
belom bro :big_slap:
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ZombiEE wrote:Gak bole nanya k4ng?
nanya apa jemb?????????
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kalau cvt mundur bisa kenceng banget ya. Bayangkan aja tidak ada perbandingan roda gigi, cuma dilewati gigi pembalik aja. Berani coba?
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kalo ada cvt apanja sy cobain ampe 120km/h mundur.............
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ak4ng wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Gak bole nanya k4ng?
nanya apa jemb?????????
Nanye ente k4ng....
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ZombiEE wrote:
ak4ng wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Gak bole nanya k4ng?
nanya apa jemb?????????
Nanye ente k4ng....
daaak ada yang deketin akang nih :upss: :upss: :upss:
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ilhami wrote:kalau cvt mundur bisa kenceng banget ya. Bayangkan aja tidak ada perbandingan roda gigi, cuma dilewati gigi pembalik aja. Berani coba?
gak jebol ya om speedonya :big_slap: :big_slap:
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speedo setau ane se g bs jeboll oom.cm ane pernah cb mundur kenceng pk t31 kan udah cvt.rasany g bs de kenceng2 amet.cm ngeri jg se.kwkwkwkkw.20 z mundur susah.
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Transmisi CVT mundur bukan berarti bisa kenceng, karena rationya udah di lock jadi layaknya gear biasa.
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FMEAKD wrote:
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ak4ng wrote: nanya apa jemb?????????
Nanye ente k4ng....
daaak ada yang deketin akang nih :upss: :upss: :upss:
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Hansen wrote:Transmisi CVT mundur bukan berarti bisa kenceng, karena rationya udah di lock jadi layaknya gear biasa.
Kalau yang ini bisa kok kenceng yah Om Hansen...

http://oto.detik.com/read/2011/04/25/08 ... o991101638
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Hansen wrote:
poeticmind wrote:
ak4ng wrote:kl scr teknis, bedanya matic cvt and matic konvensional apa aj yg mbedakan????
rasanya dulu sudah pernah dibahas oleh GTR, nanti sy posting ulang disini deh... yg jelas salah satunya adalah kalo AT konven itu terbatas pada 4-7gear rata2... berbeda dengan AT cvt itu ga ada batasan gear, tapi unlimited..jadi selama power mesin masih ada ATnya bisa digeber..paling2 mesin nya yg jebol, ATnya cuma senyum2 aja...
rasanya ga mungkin deh kalo CVT itu ga ada batasannya, pasti ada suatu titik dimana pulleynya membesar ke ukuran (diameter) maksimum yg dirancang. kalo ga ada batasan mah ntar pulleynya jadi monster raksasa :big_weee:

but, CMIIW... :ngacir:
kapasitas handling torsi-nya juga, secara teknologi (saat ini) cvt, kekuatan handling torsi-nya masih belum bisa menyamai yang sistem hidrolis
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ak4ng wrote:kl scr teknis, bedanya matic cvt and matic konvensional apa aj yg mbedakan????
fluida (oli/pelumas) nya juga beda, karena fungsinya juga beda

kalo di CVT, fungsi fluida lebih sebagai pelumas
kalo yg konvensional, selain pelumas, fungsinya lebih kearah transfer tenaga/torsi (torque converter), ibaratnya cairan minyak hidrolis

jadi keduanya ga boleh salah pakai oli, kalau yg cvt ya harus khusus fluida cvt, sebaliknya yg konvensional juga begitu

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kl yg konvesional koq paling banter 4 speed ya????????????? cvt ampe 8 speed?????
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AFAIK
Kalo transmisi otomatis ada :
- Konvensional sistem gigi dgn Torque Converter
- CVT

CVT ini banyak variant-nya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous ... ansmission

Kalo sistem kopling kering type advanced ada :
- Dual Clutch
- Dog Drive / sliding lock spt buatan zeroshift

Yg sistem konvensional sendiri skg ini banyak menganut aliran Slip Lock agar perpindahan gigi lebih halus, ditandai dgn ATF dgn spec tertentu spt JWS 3309 / T-IV / JASO 1-A dll.

Yg paling populer digunakan memang type :
- Conventional gear - Slip Lock (dewasa ini)
- CVT
- Dual Clutch

Keunggulan Dual Clutch dan sistem dog drive = energy loss sgt kecil (kopling kering) dan perpindahan gigi sgt cepat

kekurangan Dual clutch = spec kopling ada batasan kemampuan handle Torsi, jadi kalo mau modif mesin agak terbatas. (harus ganti koplingnya en mahal)

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ak4ng wrote:kl yg konvesional koq paling banter 4 speed ya????????????? cvt ampe 8 speed?????
A/T Conventional gear saat ini udah sampe 9 speed (ZF)

Kalo buatan Aisin warner dan Hyundai transmission sampai 8 speed, ini dipakai di Lexus LS 460 (Aisin AW) dan Hyundai Equus (8 sp Hyundai A/T)
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