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I wouldn't buy a VW if I were you.

Pernah punya '94 Golf GL (dan sekarang ngurusin '02 Beetle Turbo), kapok deh. Gak lagi beli VW.
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Kalo dia mau jadi "People's Car"...seperti nama mereknya, dia akan meracik kendaraan khusus untuk Indonesian atau Asian market. Harga terjangkau untuk org Indonesia + kemampuan design Volkswagen yg bagus + jaringan dealer/bengkel yg luas...wah bisa laku keras. Kalo tetep mau jadi VW yg sok eksklusif dan menyimpang dr asal usul merek tersebut....yah...begitu2 aja paling penjualannya.
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POS VETT wrote:I wouldn't buy a VW if I were you.

Pernah punya '94 Golf GL (dan sekarang ngurusin '02 Beetle Turbo), kapok deh. Gak lagi beli VW.
Emang kenapa Pak Vett ? :)

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OOT ; kenapa new Zafira gak masuk ya ? padahal lumayan bagus jg modelnya..
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POS VETT wrote:I wouldn't buy a VW if I were you.

Pernah punya '94 Golf GL (dan sekarang ngurusin '02 Beetle Turbo), kapok deh. Gak lagi beli VW.
Yah, begitulah. Tapi moga2 yg rakitan sini lebih joss, bro. Sama zaman dulu VW Kombi ada yg rakitan Brasil ada yg rakitan Meksiko. Subaru juga ada yg rakitan Amrik ada yg langsung dari Gumna.
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iya dong, kalo langsung bersaing dgn merk jepang lainnya, bagi merk jerman (bukan premium) yg udah ketinggalan 30 tahun seperti ulasan kompas, memang bukan gampang, apalagi start dgn existing produknya kelas 2000cc ke atas.
mudah2an harganya makin terjangkau, paling tidak nantinya spareparts/aksesori makin mudah tersedia dimana2.
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MitshuToyo wrote:OOT ; kenapa new Zafira gak masuk ya ? padahal lumayan bagus jg modelnya..
Iya om, kalo diperhatiin banyak juga yah yg model2 'new' yg ga lagi dipasarkan disini, entah karena ga sanggup itungan harga jual atau gara2 kapok dgn pengalaman yg sebelum2nya ..... :e-doh:
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POS VETT wrote:I wouldn't buy a VW if I were you.

Pernah punya '94 Golf GL (dan sekarang ngurusin '02 Beetle Turbo), kapok deh. Gak lagi beli VW.
Ada periode beberapa tahun lalu yg VW emang jeblok banget reliabilitynya. Tapi skrg udah bagus lagi, kata angka2nya...
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hampir semua merk opel / chevrolet ga laku, juga optima, vectra, tavera (phanter bensin), aveo.
blazer yg pernah lumayan, juga chevrolet LUV pick-up jaman dulu pernah mayan laku.
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POS VETT wrote:I wouldn't buy a VW if I were you.

Pernah punya '94 Golf GL (dan sekarang ngurusin '02 Beetle Turbo), kapok deh. Gak lagi beli VW.
kok aneh ya... seingat saya dulu ... hampir semua college students.. mobilnya kalau tidak Golf GTI, ya Golf Cabriolet..yang agak sopan pakai JETTA,,,,, apalagi kalau hari minggu cruising di Santa Monica, Venice Beach...dan sekitarnya... semua pakai Golf Cabriolet... heheee.. paling diingat karena penumpangnya pakai string bikini
MitshuToyo wrote:OOT ; kenapa new Zafira gak masuk ya ? padahal lumayan bagus jg modelnya..
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Zafira yang lama... cukup cute.. tetapi terlalu plain.. hambar..... dukungan dari Opel/Chevy... kurang bagus...
pergantian nama dari Opel ke Chevy seharusnya pada saat ganti model... jangan mobil sama dikasih dua nama.. bingung.. dah gitu gak pakai ruwatan... hehheeeee....
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VW di Jerman sendiri ibaratnya Toyota di Indonesia, bahkan lebih. Padahal mobil merek Jerman lainnya juga banyak.

Bahkan ada rencana VW untuk merger dengan Porsche walaupun masih dalam pembahasan yang alot.

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FortunerMan wrote: Ada periode beberapa tahun lalu yg VW emang jeblok banget reliabilitynya. Tapi skrg udah bagus lagi, kata angka2nya...
Mungkin itu juga alasan kenapa VW berkamuflase menjadi Premium cars,, entah sekarang masih tetap mempertahankan gelar Premium-nya atau kembali ke habitat awalnya .... :e-pray:
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Kalu bisa jual dibawah 150jt, dijamin atpm jepang bakal ketar ketir...

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tapi ntar jadinya vw combi.... :ngacir:

pasti ketar ketir bro, jangankan merk jepang, taon depan bisa2 tinggal merk korea dan china yg isi di bawah 150jt.
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Tul... harusnya vw kembali seperti awal, balik jadi mobil rakyat lagi. Jgn sok2an pake label premium. Ntar ga bisa jualan lho... Mobil premium itu udah jatahnya mercedes ma bmw. Sayang khan udah bikin pabrik disini, tapi jualannya dikit.

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mang bukan premium seperti merc/bmw sih bro, di eropa seperti ford toyota honda aja.
VW beetle jadul itu dijadikan mobil rakyat nya eropa sebelum era mobil2 jepang.
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y_anjasrana wrote:Tul... harusnya vw kembali seperti awal, balik jadi mobil rakyat lagi. Jgn sok2an pake label premium. Ntar ga bisa jualan lho... Mobil premium itu udah jatahnya mercedes ma bmw. Sayang khan udah bikin pabrik disini, tapi jualannya dikit.

Hahaha... :upss:
dari group VW sudah ada merk Audi yang diproyeksikan sebagai premium class melawan Merc-BMW.
klu lihat laporan2 di eropa (barat/timur) merk VW itu merk umum yah seperti renault, peugeot, fiat, citroen. kliatannya memang VW harus buat pabrik mobil disini spy harga mobilnya sedikit lebih ekonomis walau tidak bisa se-ekonomis toyota-honda
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Harga resmi Touran 1.4 TSI = 395 jt.

Spec mesin = 140 BHP

1.4 TSI 170 BHP adalah utk versi sedan & hatchback.

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kalo udah ada pabrik gede kayanya basis asiatenggara, moga2 indo bisa minta bikin produk lokal deh... yg lebih terjangkau; or sama aja harganya seperti semua produk global vw.
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Mau tanya, mulai tahun kapan tuh reliablity VW naik lagi? Buat info kalau beli mobil second nih.
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VW = segala macemnya plastik yg gampang pecah/kalau sudah umur bbrp tahun jadi getas.

Pada tau gak kalau impeller utk water pump VW terbuat dari plastik ? Bbrp BMW juga sama tapi akhirnya balik lagi ke metal. Desain utk perawatan rada ngejengkelin deh dan spare part-nya tidak murah. Gw gak yakin kalau VW yg 2-3 tahun terakhir sudah berubah. Kalo VW/Audi pasti maintenance-nya ngilu :mrgreen:
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wah.. bisa ga cocok buat indo nih, soalnya yg penting di indo : murah dan ga rewel.
vw harus bisa adapt ini...
spareparts(maintenance) kalo pabriknya disini, harusnya bisa lebih rendah daripada full impor.
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POS VETT wrote:VW = segala macemnya plastik yg gampang pecah/kalau sudah umur bbrp tahun jadi getas.

Pada tau gak kalau impeller utk water pump VW terbuat dari plastik ? Bbrp BMW juga sama tapi akhirnya balik lagi ke metal. Desain utk perawatan rada ngejengkelin deh dan spare part-nya tidak murah. Gw gak yakin kalau VW yg 2-3 tahun terakhir sudah berubah. Kalo VW/Audi pasti maintenance-nya ngilu :mrgreen:
Betul bro, saya sependapat dgn ini.... Dulu waktu taon 2005 pernah ngebet juga sama new beetle, cuma teman di salah satu dealer cbu malah ga recoment saya buat ambil VW, padahal waktu itu beliau sedang gencar2nya mempromosikan kerjasamanya dgn VW,, tapi masukan2 yg diutarakan teman saya tsb sangat masuk akal jadi akhirnya saya mengurungkan niat buat jadiin beetle tsb,,
Kalo soal impeller palstik sebetulnya di mobil2 jepang produksi baru juga sudah ada beberapa yg menggunakannya, karena sepengamatan saya trend sekarang ini sudah bukan lagi ke maintenance ( perbaikan/diservis) melainkan lebih ke replacing parts :)