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tangan asem regeser sudah dilengkapi dengan built in torq wrench.


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yanuarra wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:44
marmut wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:50
jangankan 29mm...... :big_bored:



20201010_144053.jpg




89mm juga oke.......



20201010_144236.jpg



:big_weee:



:ngacir:
:big_bored:
















IMG_20201010_164025.jpg




:big_weee:









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:big_biglaugh:

skor 1-0 buat mbah dekan ...

jamin mbah rektor ga bisa tidur mikirin long tie rodnya ga sesuai torque. tiap kali ngencengin long tie rod doi selalu ngeliatin tumpukan TW stahlwille nya sambil meneteskan air mata (TW nya pun meliriknya balik tanpa bisa berbuat apa2)






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Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:32
yanuarra wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:44
marmut wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:50
jangankan 29mm...... :big_bored:



20201010_144053.jpg




89mm juga oke.......



20201010_144236.jpg



:big_weee:



:ngacir:
:big_bored:
















IMG_20201010_164025.jpg




:big_weee:









:ngacir:
:big_biglaugh:

skor 1-0 buat mbah dekan ...

jamin mbah rektor ga bisa tidur mikirin long tie rodnya ga sesuai torque. tiap kali ngencengin long tie rod doi selalu ngeliatin tumpukan TW stahlwille nya sambil meneteskan air mata (TW nya pun meliriknya balik tanpa bisa berbuat apa2)






.......... :ngacir:

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Bisa dibikin sinetron indosiar mbah
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Hmmm ya engga lah mbah... Ane mah anak bawang doang... Pantesnya skor ane 1-10 mbah warektor



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apakah sdh dibuat listnya?
kasta terendah tekiri, kenmamas, lippro, black & decker,
kasta middle si sata
kasta tinggi stahlwill

ini bahas kunci ring pas ama shock aja ya :D
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blloewy wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:48 apakah sdh dibuat listnya?
kasta terendah tekiri, kenmamas, lippro, black & decker,
kasta middle si sata
kasta tinggi stahlwill

ini bahas kunci ring pas ama shock aja ya :D
kasta keratonnya banyak om ...

snap-on
stahlwille
gedore
elora
facom
bahco
matco
sidchrome
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Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:53
blloewy wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:48 apakah sdh dibuat listnya?
kasta terendah tekiri, kenmamas, lippro, black & decker,
kasta middle si sata
kasta tinggi stahlwill

ini bahas kunci ring pas ama shock aja ya :D
kasta keratonnya banyak om ...

snap-on
stahlwille
gedore
elora
facom
bahco
matco
sidchrome
yg keraton saya skip Om :big_cry: :big_cry:
mau tau kasta menengah ama kasta sudra nya aja...
sebenernye pengen tau kasta sudra yg paling bagus lah jd semi menengah semi sudra (kl ada) :big_grin:
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blloewy wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:48 apakah sdh dibuat listnya?
kasta terendah tekiri, kenmamas, lippro, black & decker,
kasta middle si sata
kasta tinggi stahlwill

ini bahas kunci ring pas ama shock aja ya :D
Black n decker itu dulunya lmayan loh.. power tools doi di eropa sana dulunya awet2

Sebenernya utk kasta sudra sendiri masi dibagi lg om
Sudra aj ama sudra hina

Sudra aja itu tekiro, lipro, jtech, dan sgala tools2 yg dijual di ace
Nah sudra hina itu kenmaster, dan sgala tools yg dijual d kerfor



* btw sbg asemregesers sejati, saya punya kunci filter oli, yg belt buatan kenmaster kerfor, yg kaki 3 dan perna dmarahin ama rektor mbah marmut krn malah bikin ngerusak filter, itu merk tekiro
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blloewy wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:04
Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:53
blloewy wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:48 apakah sdh dibuat listnya?
kasta terendah tekiri, kenmamas, lippro, black & decker,
kasta middle si sata
kasta tinggi stahlwill

ini bahas kunci ring pas ama shock aja ya :D
kasta keratonnya banyak om ...

snap-on
stahlwille
gedore
elora
facom
bahco
matco
sidchrome
yg keraton saya skip Om :big_cry: :big_cry:
mau tau kasta menengah ama kasta sudra nya aja...
sebenernye pengen tau kasta sudra yg paling bagus lah jd semi menengah semi sudra (kl ada) :big_grin:
SATA

udah ga salah lagi .... produsennya wahid punya APEX TOOL GROUP

perusahaan yg sama dgn brand owner crescent dan gearwrench.


http://www.apextoolgroup.com/brands-faceting


*bukan sales sata. apalagi incognito enci2 besar hitam dan berbulu. bukan aneee mbahhh suweeerr (kl kata mbah dekan) :mky_02:
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Nah kalo kasta waisya nya
Sebenernya ad beberapa, dan didominasi oleh nihon
- sata
- flag
- tone
- ktc
- aigo
- stanley
- dll
- jtc
-fukung

Nah kl jaman dulu , waisya ini bener2 value for money banget, asal tau dmana tmpat beli nya, dan blom dikotori oleh era toped toped dkk..
Harga masi cengli banget.. dan tetesan embun di gurun pasir bagi kami asemregesers

Sayang skrg smua ud brubah, diajarin ga bener ama sudra2, shg ad beberapa yg kualitas jd gado2, atau harga upping ga karuan
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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blloewy wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:04
Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:53
blloewy wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:48 apakah sdh dibuat listnya?
kasta terendah tekiri, kenmamas, lippro, black & decker,
kasta middle si sata
kasta tinggi stahlwill

ini bahas kunci ring pas ama shock aja ya :D
kasta keratonnya banyak om ...

snap-on
stahlwille
gedore
elora
facom
bahco
matco
sidchrome
yg keraton saya skip Om :big_cry: :big_cry:
mau tau kasta menengah ama kasta sudra nya aja...
sebenernye pengen tau kasta sudra yg paling bagus lah jd semi menengah semi sudra (kl ada) :big_grin:
Kalo ngga SATA ya Toptul om
Jamin deh Toptul top betul...
Handtools ada, powertool ada, TW ada, tooldrawer ada, printilan ada...

Toptul itu bikinan ROTAR Group, sayangnya ane ga ngerti rotar itu apaan :big_biglaugh:

Menurut info mbah shifu omnibus Toptul dipake sm salah satu dealer ahond di bandung :upss:




Toptul..top betul...



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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:53
blloewy wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:48 apakah sdh dibuat listnya?
kasta terendah tekiri, kenmamas, lippro, black & decker,
kasta middle si sata
kasta tinggi stahlwill

ini bahas kunci ring pas ama shock aja ya :D
kasta keratonnya banyak om ...

snap-on
stahlwille
gedore
elora
facom
bahco
matco
sidchrome
Mbah

Sidchrome kayanya ud bole di cabut gelar bangsawan nya deh, semenjak doi main gila ama yg dr kasta waisya

Bahkan di aussie sendiri aj bnyak yg kuciwa loh ama sidchrome skrg
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yanuarra wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:44
marmut wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:50
yanuarra wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:29 Atoyot ane pake 29 mm. Susahnya di Indo sini nggk ada jual dgn paket 29 mm. Pdhl produk atoyot bejibun disini. Knp nggk ada yg jual SST untuk ukuran itu ya :big_bored:

Apa ane aja yg jualan yak :big_biglaugh:



IMG_20201010_132139.jpg




jangankan 29mm...... :big_bored:



20201010_144053.jpg




89mm juga oke.......



20201010_144236.jpg



:big_weee:



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:big_bored:


IMG_20201010_164025.jpg


:big_weee:

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DOHC wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:14 Nah kalo kasta waisya nya
Sebenernya ad beberapa, dan didominasi oleh nihon
- sata
- flag
- tone
- ktc
- aigo
- stanley
- dll
- jtc
-fukung

Nah kl jaman dulu , waisya ini bener2 value for money banget, asal tau dmana tmpat beli nya, dan blom dikotori oleh era toped toped dkk..
Harga masi cengli banget.. dan tetesan embun di gurun pasir bagi kami asemregesers

Sayang skrg smua ud brubah, diajarin ga bener ama sudra2, shg ad beberapa yg kualitas jd gado2, atau harga upping ga karuan
kayanya grouping harus diperlebar mbah. ane kurang setuju kl ktc dan tone disatuin sama sata. ktc tone tuh kaya score 7.5-8 gitu, sata baru 4-5, jtc 5-6.

yanuarra wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:16
Kalo ngga SATA ya Toptul om
Jamin deh Toptul top betul...
Handtools ada, powertool ada, TW ada, tooldrawer ada, printilan ada...

Toptul itu bikinan ROTAR Group, sayangnya ane ga ngerti rotar itu apaan :big_biglaugh:

Menurut info mbah shifu omnibus Toptul dipake sm salah satu dealer ahond di bandung :upss:




Toptul..top betul...



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sopo itu rotar? :big_biglaugh: :big_slap:

ya udah anggap comparo deh sata vs toptul. kayanya sekelas sih.
DOHC wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:19
Mbah

Sidchrome kayanya ud bole di cabut gelar bangsawan nya deh, semenjak doi main gila ama yg dr kasta waisya

Bahkan di aussie sendiri aj bnyak yg kuciwa loh ama sidchrome skrg
iya tadi jg ragu2 mau nulis itu mbah. ya udah sidchrome taken down from the list.

ada lagi merk Matador, jerman juga. tp ga yakin dia keraton meski kualitasnya bagus menurut ane.
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DOHC wrote:
blloewy wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:48 apakah sdh dibuat listnya?
kasta terendah tekiri, kenmamas, lippro, black & decker,
kasta middle si sata
kasta tinggi stahlwill

ini bahas kunci ring pas ama shock aja ya :D
Black n decker itu dulunya lmayan loh.. power tools doi di eropa sana dulunya awet2

Sebenernya utk kasta sudra sendiri masi dibagi lg om
Sudra aj ama sudra hina

Sudra aja itu tekiro, lipro, jtech, dan sgala tools2 yg dijual di ace
Nah sudra hina itu kenmaster, dan sgala tools yg dijual d kerfor



* btw sbg asemregesers sejati, saya punya kunci filter oli, yg belt buatan kenmaster kerfor, yg kaki 3 dan perna dmarahin ama rektor mbah marmut krn malah bikin ngerusak filter, itu merk tekiro
Kalau multipro kelas opo mbah hina apa sudra aja, kunci filter saya multipro type belt... Mayan lah hehe
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mengenai tone

jd inget saya punya konci sok 14 tp 12 pt merk tone, special saya beli buat buka baut kaliper rem an40 saya dl.. perna nabrak separator ckup tinggi ampe ancur pelek dan hajar dudukan kaliper nya.. trus oleh pihak asuransi, entah dganti gmana sampe berakhir dgn pasak kaliper ber baut 12 pt
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tp sampe skrrg pun masi saya pake, special hanya utk buka baut kaliper rem.. presisi, plek, mantep
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Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:27
kayanya grouping harus diperlebar mbah. ane kurang setuju kl ktc dan tone disatuin sama sata. ktc tone tuh kaya score 7.5-8 gitu, sata baru 4-5, jtc 5-6.

masa sata ampe sgitu hina nya mbah ?? padahal saya kira ckup bagus loh, at least sekelas ama jtc atau flag dehh

kl ktc tone, stuju saya, waisya rasa ksatria itu
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indeskey wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:29
DOHC wrote:
blloewy wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:48 apakah sdh dibuat listnya?
kasta terendah tekiri, kenmamas, lippro, black & decker,
kasta middle si sata
kasta tinggi stahlwill

ini bahas kunci ring pas ama shock aja ya :D
Black n decker itu dulunya lmayan loh.. power tools doi di eropa sana dulunya awet2

Sebenernya utk kasta sudra sendiri masi dibagi lg om
Sudra aj ama sudra hina

Sudra aja itu tekiro, lipro, jtech, dan sgala tools2 yg dijual di ace
Nah sudra hina itu kenmaster, dan sgala tools yg dijual d kerfor



* btw sbg asemregesers sejati, saya punya kunci filter oli, yg belt buatan kenmaster kerfor, yg kaki 3 dan perna dmarahin ama rektor mbah marmut krn malah bikin ngerusak filter, itu merk tekiro
Kalau multipro kelas opo mbah hina apa sudra aja, kunci filter saya multipro type belt... Mayan lah hehe
multipro kayanya skelas sudra biasa aj mbah

saya sendiri dl sempet pake koq beserta sudra2 lain nya, buat tukang ama supir biar jangan maling in tools saya mulu
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DOHC wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:45
Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:27
kayanya grouping harus diperlebar mbah. ane kurang setuju kl ktc dan tone disatuin sama sata. ktc tone tuh kaya score 7.5-8 gitu, sata baru 4-5, jtc 5-6.

masa sata ampe sgitu hina nya mbah ?? padahal saya kira ckup bagus loh, at least sekelas ama jtc atau flag dehh

kl ktc tone, stuju saya, waisya rasa ksatria itu
ya kan dr harganya mbah ...

jtc tanya mbah rektor marmut yg sering nangis ngeliat harga2 jtc :big_biglaugh:

jujur ane belum pernah megang sata. kayanya sih bagus tp belum selevel ktc tone.
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Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:49
DOHC wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:45
Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:27
kayanya grouping harus diperlebar mbah. ane kurang setuju kl ktc dan tone disatuin sama sata. ktc tone tuh kaya score 7.5-8 gitu, sata baru 4-5, jtc 5-6.

masa sata ampe sgitu hina nya mbah ?? padahal saya kira ckup bagus loh, at least sekelas ama jtc atau flag dehh

kl ktc tone, stuju saya, waisya rasa ksatria itu
ya kan dr harganya mbah ...

jtc tanya mbah rektor marmut yg sering nangis ngeliat harga2 jtc :big_biglaugh:

jujur ane belum pernah megang sata. kayanya sih bagus tp belum selevel ktc tone.
Ohh kl mau masukin faktor harga

Flag skrg jg ud jeblok skor nya.. trakir kata om profith aj, flag dijual ampe jutaan.. ya kaleee, wong importirnya di glodok aj cuman jual beberapa lembar sukarno hatta doank gt

Btw kl sata ternyata kes nya mirip2 ama flag.. kita grudug rame2 enci2 besar berbulu hitam lebat yg katanya bukan mbah omni yg lg incognito yuk.. blgin turunin harga nya
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DOHC wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:55
Ohh kl mau masukin faktor harga

Flag skrg jg ud jeblok skor nya.. trakir kata om profith aj, flag dijual ampe jutaan.. ya kaleee, wong importirnya di glodok aj cuman jual beberapa lembar sukarno hatta doank gt
kayanya itu sih seller2 yg suka jual seenaknya tp ga punya barang, dropshipper. biasanya bukan power merchant atau sebangsanya, jualan jg belum pernah ada yg beli. banyak seller model begini di olshop.

jangan dijadiin patokan harga.
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Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:59
Mbah

Ukuran torsi utk busi itu asalkan head nya aluminum, bsa kta pukul rata ga, 20Nm ?

Demikian jg utk baut ban, asalkan pelek alloy dan baut nya besi baja item, 100Nm ?
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DOHC wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 13:05
Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:59
Mbah

Ukuran torsi utk busi itu asalkan head nya aluminum, bsa kta pukul rata ga, 20Nm ?

Demikian jg utk baut ban, asalkan pelek alloy dan baut nya besi baja item, 100Nm ?
bisa pukul rata.

busi saran ane sih 25 Nm (kalo 20 kurang rapet)

mur roda 105 Nm aja
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Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 13:08
DOHC wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 13:05
Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:59
Mbah

Ukuran torsi utk busi itu asalkan head nya aluminum, bsa kta pukul rata ga, 20Nm ?

Demikian jg utk baut ban, asalkan pelek alloy dan baut nya besi baja item, 100Nm ?
bisa pukul rata.

busi saran ane sih 25 Nm (kalo 20 kurang rapet)

mur roda 105 Nm aja
Yg roda ukuran velg ada pengaruh nggk mbah? Di ring 15 cuma minta 103 Nm soalnya
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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yanuarra wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 13:16
Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 13:08
DOHC wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 13:05

Mbah

Ukuran torsi utk busi itu asalkan head nya aluminum, bsa kta pukul rata ga, 20Nm ?

Demikian jg utk baut ban, asalkan pelek alloy dan baut nya besi baja item, 100Nm ?
bisa pukul rata.

busi saran ane sih 25 Nm (kalo 20 kurang rapet)

mur roda 105 Nm aja
Yg roda ukuran velg ada pengaruh nggk mbah? Di ring 15 cuma minta 103 Nm soalnya
103 ke 105 hampir ga ada bedanya mbah dekan. cuma kira2 tambahan 2Nm = 0.2 kg = 200 gram (steak) ditaro diujung pivot r sepanjang 1 meter.

mau lebih aman kasih 110 Nm juga ga masalah.

kl pake pipa besi perpanjangan sampai krek kreek itu mungkin 180Nm ke atas kayanya. bisa dol ulirnya.

besar ukuran velg + ban ngga ngaruh. yg pengaruh besar diameter ulir dan material grade nya. contoh: M12 material grade 8.8 gitu.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 02]

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Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 13:29
yanuarra wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 13:16
Omnibus wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 13:08

bisa pukul rata.

busi saran ane sih 25 Nm (kalo 20 kurang rapet)

mur roda 105 Nm aja
Yg roda ukuran velg ada pengaruh nggk mbah? Di ring 15 cuma minta 103 Nm soalnya
103 ke 105 hampir ga ada bedanya mbah dekan. cuma kira2 tambahan 2Nm = 0.2 kg = 200 gram (steak) ditaro diujung pivot r sepanjang 1 meter.

mau lebih aman kasih 110 Nm juga ga masalah.

kl pake pipa besi perpanjangan sampai krek kreek itu mungkin 180Nm ke atas kayanya. bisa dol ulirnya.

besar ukuran velg + ban ngga ngaruh. yg pengaruh besar diameter ulir dan material grade nya. contoh: M12 material grade 8.8 gitu.
Ok sip tararengkyu mbah..
Kalo di bukman ane minta 103 Nm, tp stlh pengencangan diminta ricek lagi after nempuh 1.000 km. Yaudah kmren2 ane jajal seminggu kemudian (kbtulan nempuh 1.600 km ajrut2an+hi speed), pas cek ulang si TW lgsg ceklek di semua murnya. Artinya everything is ok. Jd smpe skrg set di 103 Nm udah ngerasa aman banget... :mky_02:

Memang ya tw berguna banget, yg paling penting perasaan tenang dan damai waktu nyetir itu yg utama :big_grin:

Lebay :big_slap: