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vvti16valve
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by vvti16valve » Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:33
Omnibus wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 14:15
kl buat busi kayanya terlalu panjang, kecuali memang muat.
utk akurasi ga jd masalah krn bukan buat ngencengin komponen daleman mesin yg perlu akurasi tinggi. yg jelas jauh lbh baik drpd pake perasaan.
betul mbah, takut berlebihan jadi main perasaan
azu wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 14:53
Kalau utk busi pakai yg drive 3/8 ata 1/4 aja om, setau saya kebanyakan torsi utk busi antara 18-25 Nm soalnya
Kalau ini cocoknya utk torsi mur roda sih om
Untuk kunci torsi yg murah biasanya akurasi di sekitar 6-10% om. Saya sendiri punyamerk Pegasi yg murah, beli di Jakartanotebook harganya 130ribuan utk yg 1/4 5-25 Nm dan 150ribuan utk yg 3/8 19-110 Nm. Coba beli yg murah dulu soalnya bakal diomelin Menkeu kalau belinya yg mahal
setidaknya seperti kata mbah Omni yg lebih baik daripada pakai perasaan
Soalnya saya udah pernah bikin patah baut koil karena kekencengan
oh iya berarti ini lebih cocok buat roda ya mbah
marmut wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 15:22
sikat.
tinggal beli mata sok yg mahal a.k.a mumpuni a.k.a presisi a.k.a merk jelas.
btw ini persis spt saya punya dipajang di part 1 yg berhasil bikin seseorang kebakaran jenggot dan langsung ngeluarin semua dagangannya.....
edit : buat busi ga bisa, kepanjangan dan torsinya kegedean.
oke mbah makasih masukan dan info nya
DOHC
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by DOHC » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:53
vvti16valve wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 14:05
malam mbah, kalo buat pemula a.k.a nubie sotoy kalo ini barang akurasi nya oke gak ya mbah?
mohon maklum kantong pelajar yg mau nimba ilmu dari para suhu
harga cuma si pek ceng kembali go ceng di lapak oren
biar hati tenang aja klo ngencengin baut roda sama busi
skalian nambah satu lg yg ukuran kecil kaya kata mbah2 d atas , ukuran 1/4 atau 3/8 in drive, rentang torsi imut2 dari 5-25 newton
sperti kata petuah2 penunggu dedemit tret hentul, minimal konci torsi itu wajip punya 2 biji , yg kecil buat ruang mesin, yg gede buat kaki2 ama skalian buat sabet begal d jalan
numpang lewat aja....
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by yanuarra » Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:11
nubie pensiunan nyimak aja
Suryaputra
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by Suryaputra » Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:24
yanuarra wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:11
nubie pensiunan nyimak aja
Boleh mbah dilelang di sini
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saturday
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by saturday » Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:26
yanuarra wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:11
nubie pensiunan nyimak aja
Dilihat dari merk dan tipe mobil yang akan anda beli, sepertinya hand tools anda akan banyak terpakai lagi dan suhu aing akan batal pensiun
singachu
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by singachu » Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:45
Suryaputra wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:24
yanuarra wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:11
nubie pensiunan nyimak aja
Boleh mbah dilelang di sini
nyimak
regards,
singachu
marmut
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by marmut » Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:48
saturday wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:26
Dilihat dari merk dan tipe mobil yang akan anda beli, sepertinya hand tools anda akan banyak terpakai lagi dan suhu aing akan batal pensiun
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marmut
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by marmut » Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:54
singachu wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:45
regards,
singachu
sudah pernah tes ketebalan aktual feeler gauge pak?
saya iseng² beli feeler gauge merk anu harga emperan, kemudian iseng tes ketebalannya dengan micrometer cungkwo dan ini hasilnya :
20240419_141509.jpg
20240419_142104.jpg
20240419_142559.jpg
itu 2 feeler gauge dari merk yg sama, yg 1 model lurus spt umumnya, 1 lg bengkok ujungnya husus untuk stel klep.
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saturday
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by saturday » Fri Apr 19, 2024 14:45
marmut wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:48
saturday wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:26
Dilihat dari merk dan tipe mobil yang akan anda beli, sepertinya hand tools anda akan banyak terpakai lagi dan suhu aing akan batal pensiun
IMG-20240409-WA0013.jpg
Jajan iseng aja.
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marmut
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by marmut » Fri Apr 19, 2024 16:53
saturday wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 14:45
Jajan iseng aja.
IMG_20240419_214433.jpg
itu apa?
*belagapilonketularansuhuaing.
marmut
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by marmut » Fri Apr 19, 2024 16:59
udah dateng td sore kang
Omnibus
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goreng kang kotakna....
eta gagangna oge burik.
belon coba digetok krn udh malem hawatir kena amuk warga.
moga² besok cobain getok² ga ambrol.
yg panjang ada ph2, ph3, sm slotted.
yg pendek ph3 sm slotted.
kalo sekali pake ambrol ya nasip lha.... harga selembar masih kembalian kok protes.........
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Omnibus
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by Omnibus » Fri Apr 19, 2024 18:24
marmut wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 16:59
udah dateng td sore kang
Omnibus
20240419_235121.jpg
20240419_235050.jpg
goreng kang kotakna....
eta gagangna oge burik.
belon coba digetok krn udh malem hawatir kena amuk warga.
moga² besok cobain getok² ga ambrol.
yg panjang ada ph2, ph3, sm slotted.
yg pendek ph3 sm slotted.
kalo sekali pake ambrol ya nasip lha.... harga selembar masih kembalian kok protes.........
yg penting balmod nya cepet
DOHC
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by DOHC » Fri Apr 19, 2024 22:23
saturday wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 14:45
marmut wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:48
saturday wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:26
Dilihat dari merk dan tipe mobil yang akan anda beli, sepertinya hand tools anda akan banyak terpakai lagi dan suhu aing akan batal pensiun
IMG-20240409-WA0013.jpg
Jajan iseng aja.
IMG_20240419_214433.jpg
daytona ??
ga coba maen ke total tools aj mbah
dsana ada TTI, itu 11 12 ama daytona tuh, lebi murah jg
numpang lewat aja....
marmut
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by marmut » Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:08
VIDEO
Profith83
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by Profith83 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:57
yanuarra wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:11
nubie pensiunan nyimak aja
sama mbah, saya pensiun juga
Profith83
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by Profith83 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:53
Btw.
Ratchet ada drive 1/4 3/8 1/2.
Nah idealnya kunci shock di masing2 ukuran berapa sd berapa?
Bayangan saya
Misal drive 1/4 sd max 10mm
Drive 3/8 max 12mm sd 16mm
Drive 1/2 max 17mm keatas sd ?
Drive 3/4 kayanya gak perlu
Suryaputra
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by Suryaputra » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:11
Profith83 wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:53
Btw.
Ratchet ada drive 1/4 3/8 1/2.
Nah idealnya kunci shock di masing2 ukuran berapa sd berapa?
Bayangan saya
Misal drive 1/4 sd max 10mm
Drive 3/8 max 12mm sd 16mm
Drive 1/2 max 17mm keatas sd ?
Drive 3/4 kayanya gak perlu
Tergantung torsi aja mbah sebetulnya
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singachu
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by singachu » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:20
marmut wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:54
singachu wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:45
regards,
singachu
sudah pernah tes ketebalan aktual feeler gauge pak?
saya iseng² beli feeler gauge merk anu harga emperan, kemudian iseng tes ketebalannya dengan micrometer cungkwo dan ini hasilnya :
20240419_141509.jpg
20240419_142104.jpg
20240419_142559.jpg
itu 2 feeler gauge dari merk yg sama, yg 1 model lurus spt umumnya, 1 lg bengkok ujungnya husus untuk stel klep.
ga punya micrometer pak, pinjemin dong
aku feeler gauge cuman buat gap busi aja, eh ama celah klep motor aja sih...... seringnya gap busi aja, itu aja juga masih pakai "feel" ini seret apa ga....
feeler gauge nya merk apa itu pak ?
yang bend kenapa ada koma panjang ?
regards,
singachu
singachu
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by singachu » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:28
saturday wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 14:45
Jajan iseng aja.
IMG_20240419_214433.jpg
socket rail aku pakai merk gestar murmer sebelum restock jadi mayan naek harga
DOHC wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 22:23
daytona ??
ga coba maen ke total tools aj mbah
dsana ada TTI, itu 11 12 ama daytona tuh, lebi murah jg
total tools maksudnya merk total ?
regards,
singachu
singachu
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by singachu » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:29
marmut wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 16:59
udah dateng td sore kang
Omnibus
20240419_235121.jpg
20240419_235050.jpg
goreng kang kotakna....
eta gagangna oge burik.
belon coba digetok krn udh malem hawatir kena amuk warga.
moga² besok cobain getok² ga ambrol.
yg panjang ada ph2, ph3, sm slotted.
yg pendek ph3 sm slotted.
kalo sekali pake ambrol ya nasip lha.... harga selembar masih kembalian kok protes.........
warna biru, engsel boxnya semoga ga cepet sobek...... multipro ? jetjo ?
regards,
singachu
singachu
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by singachu » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:57
marmut wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:08
VIDEO
terima kasih saya akan coba menggunakan palu dengan baik dan benar
regards,
singachu
DOHC
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by DOHC » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:54
singachu wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:28
total tools maksudnya merk total ?
regards,
singachu
kaga mbah
itu nama toko nya mbah
numpang lewat aja....
DOHC
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by DOHC » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:57
Profith83 wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:53
Btw.
Ratchet ada drive 1/4 3/8 1/2.
Nah idealnya kunci shock di masing2 ukuran berapa sd berapa?
Bayangan saya
Misal drive 1/4 sd max 10mm
Drive 3/8 max 12mm sd 16mm
Drive 1/2 max 17mm keatas sd ?
Drive 3/4 kayanya gak perlu
dah perna di bahas beberapa taon silam mbah
inti nya, tergantung kualitet konci sok nya
numpang lewat aja....
Omnibus
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by Omnibus » Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:07
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:11
Profith83 wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:53
Btw.
Ratchet ada drive 1/4 3/8 1/2.
Nah idealnya kunci shock di masing2 ukuran berapa sd berapa?
Bayangan saya
Misal drive 1/4 sd max 10mm
Drive 3/8 max 12mm sd 16mm
Drive 1/2 max 17mm keatas sd ?
Drive 3/4 kayanya gak perlu
Tergantung torsi aja mbah sebetulnya
socket 36mm pakai ratchet 1/4
*b/g ratchet 3/8 dan 1/2 sbg perbandingan
IMG_20240422_170051~2.jpg
ada betulnya, itu socket meskipun 36 tp utk filter oli plastik yg paling kenceng juga 25Nm. tp kayanya kl 1/4 sy ga mau, idealnya pakai 3/8.
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marmut
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by marmut » Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:53
Omnibus wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:07
socket 36mm pakai ratchet 1/4
*b/g ratchet 3/8 dan 1/2 sbg perbandingan
IMG_20240422_170051~2.jpg
ada betulnya, itu socket meskipun 36 tp utk filter oli plastik yg paling kenceng juga 25Nm. tp kayanya kl 1/4 sy ga mau, idealnya pakai 3/8.
oil filter cap yg 36mm kan ada kuncinya husus.
masa punya roll cab snap on malah pake mata sok biasa? malu ah......
sblm digiles vrz batuk