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bukanya kalo shock blakang lebi keras yg ada malah bahaya yah pas kalo lagi tikungan gt... kan pantat nya jadi ngebuang atau gampang ngepot gt... :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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ya itu jg susah dijelaskan, pengertian lbh kerasnya itu seberapa banyak selisihnya,hehehe....
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kalo ane dulu di civic malah yg depan pake bilstein blakang pake std honda yg showa aja tuh.... lumayan tuh handling nya jadi enak...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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jalu wrote:ya itu jg susah dijelaskan, pengertian lbh kerasnya itu seberapa banyak selisihnya,hehehe....
perbedaan kekerasannya kira2 sekitar 20% dari default kk pembina :ungg:
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mohon masukannya donk dr para master d SM, ato barangkali ada yg uda gape maen2 d sentul bsa sharing mengenai settingan suspensi yg stabil bwat mobil :ungg: :ungg:

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doq wrote:mohon masukannya donk dr para master d SM, ato barangkali ada yg uda gape maen2 d sentul bsa sharing mengenai settingan suspensi yg stabil bwat mobil :ungg: :ungg:

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buat mbl apa doq....... :e-think:
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sjamsul wrote:
doq wrote:mohon masukannya donk dr para master d SM, ato barangkali ada yg uda gape maen2 d sentul bsa sharing mengenai settingan suspensi yg stabil bwat mobil :ungg: :ungg:

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buat mbl apa doq....... :e-think:
buat baleno oom..........adanya khan itu doank :big_weee: :upss: :mrgreen:
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doq wrote:
jalu wrote:ya itu jg susah dijelaskan, pengertian lbh kerasnya itu seberapa banyak selisihnya,hehehe....
perbedaan kekerasannya kira2 sekitar 20% dari default kk pembina :ungg:
om doq habis beli coilover suspnesion set yah.......wooww................:frm_salut: :frm_salut:
eh itu komplit sm adj pillow ball nya kan ??? :roll:
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doq wrote:
sjamsul wrote:
doq wrote:mohon masukannya donk dr para master d SM, ato barangkali ada yg uda gape maen2 d sentul bsa sharing mengenai settingan suspensi yg stabil bwat mobil :ungg: :ungg:

:thanks:
buat mbl apa doq....... :e-think:
buat baleno oom..........adanya khan itu doank :big_weee: :upss: :mrgreen:
mangkenye klo nanya itu yg jelas donggggg..... gemane sihhhhhh............. khan nt cuma kasih data spt ini 'nb: bwat mobil fwd nih'........ nah, ane kirain nt beli mbl baru gituuuuuu................... wakakakakakaka......... :upss: .....

nah, sebelon ane ngacir, ane pengen nanya lagi neh..... maunya spt apa gitu.... ato suspensi spt apa yg diharapkan hasilnya ama dik ferdi..... ehhhhh.... dik doq............. :e-think: ......

nah, baru deh ane ngacirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..................... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: ..............
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imho, settingan suspensi kalo udah spesifik, bergantung pada karakter driver dan sirkuit yang dilintasi.. tapi kalo untuk penggunan biasa, standar pabrik adalah yang terbaik... kecuali perlu adjustment sesuai dengan kebutuhan..
secara sasis beol monokok, perlu dipasang struts bar di suspensi depan, dan belakang (jika memungkinkan). plus stabilizer di ke dua poros roda...
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@kk pembina: waaaaah mana kebeli yg ky gitu oom :e-wall:

jd gini ceritanya, shock yg skarang ini khan udah mulai lemes....berhubung budget lg mefet, rencananya ntar mo di suntik aja gitchuuuu :mrgreen: :oops:

naah....secara d tukang suntik itu khan tingkat kekerasan shock bsa d modif sesuai pesenan, sy lg perlu masukan nih kira2 settingan kekerasan yg pas bwat speed cruising itu yg ky gimana......siapa tau ada master2 yg berpengalaman dlm hal ini

kira2 mana yg lbh baik,
-shock depan lbh keras dr belakang (tekanan shock belakang default)
-shock belakang lbh keras dr depan (tekanan shock depan default)
-shock depan-belakang sama kerasnya (lbh keras dr default)

mohon mangap klo ada yg ngira ini bwat settingan coilover :big_weee: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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doq wrote:@kk pembina: waaaaah mana kebeli yg ky gitu oom :e-wall:

jd gini ceritanya, shock yg skarang ini khan udah mulai lemes....berhubung budget lg mefet, rencananya ntar mo di suntik aja gitchuuuu :mrgreen: :oops:

naah....secara d tukang suntik itu khan tingkat kekerasan shock bsa d modif sesuai pesenan, sy lg perlu masukan nih kira2 settingan kekerasan yg pas bwat speed cruising itu yg ky gimana......siapa tau ada master2 yg berpengalaman dlm hal ini

kira2 mana yg lbh baik,
-shock depan lbh keras dr belakang (tekanan shock belakang default)
-shock belakang lbh keras dr depan (tekanan shock depan default)
-shock depan-belakang sama kerasnya (lbh keras dr default)


mohon mangap klo ada yg ngira ini bwat settingan coilover :big_weee: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
lebih keras atau lbh empuk....hmm seberapa besar perbedaan keras atau empuknya ? :upss:

gini aja deh...karena mbl masih untuk harian...saran saya sih ya ikut defaultnya aja....kalo pun ngotot pengen keras...ya seragam depan belakang sama2 dibikin lbh keras...meski sebesar apa perbedaan kerasnya ya saya jg ndak tau. :mrgreen:
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mohon info nya bagi yg mengetahui.

Apakah type busi yg dipake di Grand Vitara 2.0 bisa jg dipake di kijang grand 1.8 (mesin 7k sblm kapsul)? Kalo emg bisa jadi rencananya busi irridium yg skrg ane pake di GV mo di limpahkan ke kijang tsb supaya ga mubazir, sebab GV pgn ganti yg baru nih tp berhub yg lama jg msh blm terlalu lama rasanya sayang kalo di apkir gitu aja.

Thx atas info nya yang mantap.
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untuk busi nampaknya mesti konsul ke om meong atau badak...apakah Denso W16EXU (kijang) itu kompatibel dengan NGK BKR6E (GV)....juragan spare part tentu punya comparison table nya....
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growbuckme wrote:mohon info nya bagi yg mengetahui.

Apakah type busi yg dipake di Grand Vitara 2.0 bisa jg dipake di kijang grand 1.8 (mesin 7k sblm kapsul)? Kalo emg bisa jadi rencananya busi irridium yg skrg ane pake di GV mo di limpahkan ke kijang tsb supaya ga mubazir, sebab GV pgn ganti yg baru nih tp berhub yg lama jg msh blm terlalu lama rasanya sayang kalo di apkir gitu aja.

Thx atas info nya yang mantap.
klo ga salah di mbl grand vitara, businya ada tulisan R nya deh..... artinya itu busi ada resistornya..... jadi sebaiknya jangan bro, ntar apinya malah kurang buat kijang lama......tp biar ga penasaran coba aja dulu, yg penting liat dratnya.... apakah panjangnya sama..... klo sama dipakein aja dulu, trus liat performanya...... klo ok terusin, tp klo kaga yah jangan dipake......

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jalu wrote:
doq wrote:@kk pembina: waaaaah mana kebeli yg ky gitu oom :e-wall:

jd gini ceritanya, shock yg skarang ini khan udah mulai lemes....berhubung budget lg mefet, rencananya ntar mo di suntik aja gitchuuuu :mrgreen: :oops:

naah....secara d tukang suntik itu khan tingkat kekerasan shock bsa d modif sesuai pesenan, sy lg perlu masukan nih kira2 settingan kekerasan yg pas bwat speed cruising itu yg ky gimana......siapa tau ada master2 yg berpengalaman dlm hal ini

kira2 mana yg lbh baik,
-shock depan lbh keras dr belakang (tekanan shock belakang default)
-shock belakang lbh keras dr depan (tekanan shock depan default)
-shock depan-belakang sama kerasnya (lbh keras dr default)


mohon mangap klo ada yg ngira ini bwat settingan coilover :big_weee: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
lebih keras atau lbh empuk....hmm seberapa besar perbedaan keras atau empuknya ? :upss:

gini aja deh...karena mbl masih untuk harian...saran saya sih ya ikut defaultnya aja....kalo pun ngotot pengen keras...ya seragam depan belakang sama2 dibikin lbh keras...meski sebesar apa perbedaan kerasnya ya saya jg ndak tau. :mrgreen:
gmana toh kk pembina ini :upss: khan udah d tulis klo perbedaan kerasnya sekitar 20% dr default
masukannya donk kk :ungg:
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oke deh..dibawah ini primbon sederhana untuk mengurangi understeer :
Simple modifications to make a car less prone to understeer

If you have a track car and find understeer a problem, you can complete some relatively easy modifications which can make the handling more neutral. These include:

* Reducing the front tyre pressure
* Softening front springs or anti-roll bar
* Use softer front tyres
* Increase front down force (if aerodynamics fitted)
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wooo.....ic ic
jd settingan shock belakang yg lbh keras memang bsa membantu mengurangi undertseer ya oom.....

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doq wrote:wooo.....ic ic
jd settingan shock belakang yg lbh keras memang bsa membantu mengurangi undertseer ya oom.....

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diprimbon menulis demikian...jg disitu dinyatakan bahwa jika belakang terlalu keras maka potensinya berbalik jadi oversteer (ngepot)...so, mudah2an 20% stiffer udah cukup.

btw kaki blkg baleno itu independent kan ?? :ungg:
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setau sy sih independen oom cmiiw.......
knpa yah? :ungg: :ungg:
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camber blkg nya bisa distel gak ? kalo emang bisa, ya bagus..... :mrgreen:
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wah.....klo itu g tau oom :ungg:
settingan camber yg gmana yg bgs nih ?
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om doq, chambernya diset kayak hellaflush.... :mrgreen:
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doq wrote:wah.....klo itu g tau oom :ungg:
settingan camber yg gmana yg bgs nih ?
fer.....ehhh doq..... baiknya gini..... setelah shock disetel, langsung bawa mobilnya ke tukang spooring, krn mereka biasanya tau setelan cambernya....jadi ga usah pusing2...... :e-whistle:
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waaaah........modifan nyengsarain itu mah :big_weee: :big_weee:
sy mah lbh demen modifan yg ngga nyusahin oom :ungg:
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