Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 04

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Re: Oli TBN, Detergent , dan Antiwear Tinggi

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kalo pake oli 10W-30 bermasalah ga om mobil nya ?? kalo ga terjadi penguapan oli pake oli encer, ada tuh oli10W-30 yg masi api SL.... petronas synthium 800 yg 10W-30 ama oli nissan genuine oil...
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Re: Oli TBN, Detergent , dan Antiwear Tinggi

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10w30 kayaknya terlalu encer ya bro.
kalo 10w40 masih oke
Yang ane tahu fastron ama repsol 10w40 itu klasifikasinya sl.
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rata2 mobil2 yg ane perna coba... kalo make 10W-40 ga masalah... ane switch ke 10W-30 jg ga masalah sehh bro... bahkan ipah ane yg uda jalan 115 rebu aja ane cekokin yg 10W-30 ga masalah... ga terjadi penguapan berlebihan... demikian pula di cityZ sepupu ane yg uda 160 rebu km.. skrg dipakein oli kepala 30 jg ga masalah... mungkin karena beda tingkatan cuman dikit kali ama yg 40... cmiiw
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Re: Oli TBN, Detergent , dan Antiwear Tinggi

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ngomong2... oli yg ckup terkenal dgn zat molybdenum sbg zat anti wear nya kann si eneos tuh... bahkan kalo ane ga salah, masi api SL... cmiiw... mungkin bisa dicoba bro..
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Re: Oli TBN, Detergent , dan Antiwear Tinggi

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inova ama city mah jauh lebih baru dari mobil ane. accord 93.
http://www.hondaaccordmaestro.wordpress.com

khusus mobil ini adalah mobil pertama dari hasil kerja ane sendiri. Jadi banyak banget historynya. Dan akan tetep ane pake , nggak akan ane jual bro... :mky_02:
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Re: Oli TBN, Detergent , dan Antiwear Tinggi

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Yup bener eneos itu masih sl. Btw udah beberapa kali pernah mencoba eneos. Tapi kok ane rasa suara mesin agak kasar ya. Apa feeling ane aja.

Ane juga pernah membaca artikel bahwa molybdenum sebenarnya kurang baik digunakan untuk anti wear additive , karena sifat molekulnya yang keras , pada pamakaian jangka panjang justru berefek negatif pada logam.

Bener enggak ya bro ??? Apa itu hanya hoax belaka ?? :mky_06:
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wahh kalo soal itu... ane ga tau bro... cuman kalo gosip ttg si molyb itu bisa ngerusak jg ane perna baca di forum tetangga... cuman stelah ane gugel2 barusan, ane blom ketemu bro data yg bener2 kuat utk ngebuktiin hal tsb...
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Re: Oli TBN, Detergent , dan Antiwear Tinggi

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Re: Oli TBN, Detergent , dan Antiwear Tinggi

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Oli Top 1 juga iklan nya mengandung molybdenum... :ungg:
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Re: Oli TBN, Detergent , dan Antiwear Tinggi

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Umumnya sih Molybdenum digunakan dalam persentasi yang sgt kecil, sebagai zat pelengkap antiwear additive

Yg utama tetap ZDDP, lalu di bbrp merek en type oli ada sejumlah kecil Molybdenum digunakan dan bahkan juga zat senyawa Boron.

Mobil1 termasuk yg menggunakan zat Mo ini, tetapi dalam jumlah sgt kecil, en warna olinya juga tetap kuning bening (gak sampe ijo)

Rata2 produsen oli menggunakan sebanyak 50 - 100 an ppm, walau ada juga yg sampai 200 - 230 ppm.

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Re: Oli TBN, Detergent , dan Antiwear Tinggi

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Sampai saat ini penggunaan Moly sebagai addiive mengundang pro dan kontra.
Bahkan cummins secara jelas tidak merekomendasikan penggunaan moly karena menimbulkan keausan dan korosi.

CMW is not alone in their recommendation against the use of moly in oils, with Cummins Engine Oil Recommendations, Bulletin No. 3810340-02, stating that "there is firm evidence that certain friction modifiers, molybdenum dithiophosphate for example, can in certain formulations result in cam follower pin failure at relatively low mileage." Also, molybdenum compounds in motor oils can degrade and cause bearing corrosion and is particularly aggressive towards copper. In almost all cases, any engine oil formula having "moly" will also contain a copper deactivator which will protect bearings from the moly compounds. The only problem, the copper deactivator decomposes at relatively low temperatures and looses it's potency after a few thousand miles, which can be seen in used oil analyses of moly rich oils having higher than normal copper levels...............

sumber :
http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html#Z22

ini forum di luar negeri:
Lubro-Moly Mos2 Antifriction Treatment
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub ... er=1715407

Analisa Nasa Pada Molybdenum pdf Download
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 004987.pdf
Tapi tahun jadul banget.
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Re: oli mesin Motul, Shell atau Castrol??

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Angkat lagi ahhhhhh. :big_weee: ............. :ngacir:
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Re: oli mesin Motul, Shell atau Castrol??

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Saat ini sudah ngga lagi pakai ketiganya :big_weee:

Masih cocok sama eks- kuda laut

Entah besok besok... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Re: oli mesin Motul, Shell atau Castrol??

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mo nanya dong bro2 sekalian
kalo shell helix astra 10w-40 itu aslinya shell helix apa ya??
harganya mayan beda jauh ama shell helix HX7
kalo shell helix astra 10w-30 kalo ga salah aslinya shell helix AJ yak??

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Kayaknya dari HX7, cmiiw yah :D
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Re: oli mesin Motul, Shell atau Castrol??

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imsus2c wrote:Kayaknya dari HX7, cmiiw yah :D
tapi harganya beda jauh om
HX7 kan 70 rebuan kalo shell astra cuma 50 rebuan
API nya jg beda. HX7 API SN kalo shell astra API SL
trus di kemasannya ditulis mineral
apa HX7 diluar banyak jenisnya ya?? :e-think:
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Jambangan wrote:
imsus2c wrote:Kayaknya dari HX7, cmiiw yah :D
tapi harganya beda jauh om
HX7 kan 70 rebuan kalo shell astra cuma 50 rebuan
API nya jg beda. HX7 API SN kalo shell astra API SL
trus di kemasannya ditulis mineral
apa HX7 diluar banyak jenisnya ya?? :e-think:
Ouw, mineral dan SL ya? Kalau 2 jenis ini, biasanya ngga jauh dari HX5

Sorry, kurang ngikuti perkembangan oli shell lagi :mky_01:
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Re: oli mesin Motul, Shell atau Castrol??

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Jambangan wrote:
imsus2c wrote:Kayaknya dari HX7, cmiiw yah :D
tapi harganya beda jauh om
HX7 kan 70 rebuan kalo shell astra cuma 50 rebuan
API nya jg beda. HX7 API SN kalo shell astra API SL
trus di kemasannya ditulis mineral
apa HX7 diluar banyak jenisnya ya?? :e-think:
kalau synthetic api sl kemungkinan hx 7 versi lama
tapi kalau mineral kurang tau
shell hx 7 ada banyak jenisnya
http://www.shell.com/global/products-se ... x-hx7.html
http://www.shell.com/global/products-se ... x-hx6.html
nah lo bingung :wkkk:
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Re: oli mesin Motul, Shell atau Castrol??

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imsus2c wrote:Saat ini sudah ngga lagi pakai ketiganya :big_weee:

Masih cocok sama eks- kuda laut

Entah besok besok... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
saat ini kebetulan pake oli honda aja..

ga tau besok besok...... :ngacir:
Permisii :ungg: ............................. :ngacir:
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Re: oli mesin Motul, Shell atau Castrol??

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nescafe wrote:
imsus2c wrote:Saat ini sudah ngga lagi pakai ketiganya :big_weee:

Masih cocok sama eks- kuda laut

Entah besok besok... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
saat ini kebetulan pake oli honda aja..

ga tau besok besok...... :ngacir:
Sama om 90 ribuan ya
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Jambangan wrote:mo nanya dong bro2 sekalian
kalo shell helix astra 10w-40 itu aslinya shell helix apa ya??
harganya mayan beda jauh ama shell helix HX7
kalo shell helix astra 10w-30 kalo ga salah aslinya shell helix AJ yak??

:thanks:
Wah shell helix astra kan 86 ribu om di shop n drive,kalo g salah ingat
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nugroho bagor wrote:
Jambangan wrote:mo nanya dong bro2 sekalian
kalo shell helix astra 10w-40 itu aslinya shell helix apa ya??
harganya mayan beda jauh ama shell helix HX7
kalo shell helix astra 10w-30 kalo ga salah aslinya shell helix AJ yak??

:thanks:
Wah shell helix astra kan 86 ribu om di shop n drive,kalo g salah ingat
Yg dibawah shell hx7 itu shell helix astra yg 10w-40 API SL om. Cuma 50rebuan kalo ga salah
Ternyata setelah ane cek2 dia cuma mineral makanya murah
Om bagor pake shell astra yg 10w-30 ya??
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Re: oli mesin Motul, Shell atau Castrol??

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kalau gue sih pake oli yg sudah diakui dunia aja castrol atau shell sesuai spek mesin gak mau kasih yg mahal mahal buang uang , honda jazz dikasih oli harga 300 rb/l gak mesinnya mungkin bisa ngalahin standar accord cuma pake mesran 10w40 makanya gue banyak kasian liat OKB beli mobil baru ... baru keluar diler velg udah naik 3 inch , stiker krom berhamburan dimana mana bonus lagi kasih kaca film segelap gelapnya ( gak sekalian di cat hitam aja :mrgreen: ) pakai oli super 300 ribuan tapi yg mobilnya harga 200 jutaan
Performa mesin berlipat ganda setiap 30 tahun
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Jambangan wrote:
nugroho bagor wrote:
Jambangan wrote:mo nanya dong bro2 sekalian
kalo shell helix astra 10w-40 itu aslinya shell helix apa ya??
harganya mayan beda jauh ama shell helix HX7
kalo shell helix astra 10w-30 kalo ga salah aslinya shell helix AJ yak??

:thanks:
Wah shell helix astra kan 86 ribu om di shop n drive,kalo g salah ingat
Yg dibawah shell hx7 itu shell helix astra yg 10w-40 API SL om. Cuma 50rebuan kalo ga salah
Ternyata setelah ane cek2 dia cuma mineral makanya murah
Om bagor pake shell astra yg 10w-30 ya??
Belum kepake om,itu aja pas ada program di sn d tukar accu n dapat 2 liter shell helix astra 10w30, yang sae SM om,nanti kalo sdh saatnya ganti oli mau saya isiin ke jazz saya om
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Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 04

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<< PART 03

imsus2c wrote:Sainz = Conoco ?

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conoco bukannya dah ada kendall?