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http://www.safetyresearch.net/2011/02/2 ... a-edition/
" Dear Toyota:
Why did you buy back Tim Scott’s 2007 Lexus RX? We mean, really? You gave him a bunch of different reasons, but he doesn’t believe you. (We’re finding it a little hard to swallow, too.)
Awaiting your reply,
SRS
Here’s Tim Scott’s story. In early December, as NHTSA and NASA were putting the finishing touches on their reports saying that there is nothing wrong with Toyota’s electronics or software, Scott experienced an unintended acceleration event in his 2007 Lexus RX350, on his way home from the gym. Here’s the narrative that Scott, 46, the chief financial officer for the International Union of Police Associations, wrote:
“At approx. 8:05 am on Thursday, December 2nd I was stopped behind a school bus that was picking up children at the intersection of Sarasota Square Blvd and Crockers Lake Blvd in Sarasota, FL. After the bus cleared the intersection (1-2 min wait) I gave the car enough gas to make the right hand turn onto Crockers Lake Blvd. which is only approx. 150-200 ft in length. I estimate the speed was between 10-15 mph when I began braking to make the left hand turn into the Citation Club Apartments when I noticed the vehicle was not slowing.
I pressed the brake pedal harder and the car continued to pull against the brakes. As I approached the end of Crockers Lake Blvd I had both feet on the brakes and the car was slowing, however the engine was “screaming†and the tachometer was approaching to “red-lineâ€Â. I managed to make the left hand turn and as the car slowed I shifted it into park to stop it. The engine was screaming so I turned the ignition to the off position.
I attempted to restart the vehicle and it immediately red-lined again; I immediately turned the car off. At this time two employees of Citation Club approached me on the passenger side in a service golf cart and asked what was wrong. I indicated I didn’t know but they should “hear this†at which time I started the car again and it again red-lined. I immediately turned the ignition off.
One of the Citation Club employees told me they would push me out of the entrance area to prevent my vehicle from being struck should someone attempt to enter the complex. Once safely parked, I exited the vehicle and immediately checked to be sure the floor mats were still secured by the anchors; they were. I looked for any type of obstruction near the accelerator and found none.â€Â
The dealership, Wilde Lexus, however did find a problem – they found three different problems. Or, rather, one problem that changed three times. First, they told him that his vehicle was equipped with the wrong carpet mats. Then they told him that the floor mats were the right size, but that they were “bunched up†around the accelerator. Then they told him that the driver’s side floor mat appeared to dislodge a section of molding that obstructed the accelerator. So – wrong-size floor mats, bunched up floor mats, then dislodged molding. Are you with us?
About a week later, the dealership informed him that even though they had isolated the problem to a carpeted floor mat, Lexus was sending a team of engineers to examine the vehicle. When the engineers arrived, they called Scott to ask if the accelerator was 25-percent or 50-percent depressed. The accelerator was zero-percent depressed – Scott was braking at the time the UA occurred.
Back to the narrative: “Late in the afternoon of December 20th I received a call from Lexus (Corporate) stating that the engineers had determined they ‘didn’t want to take any more chances with the vehicle on the road and that they wanted to purchase my vehicle back if I was interested.’ â€Â
Scott was interested – and stunned.
“I never anticipated hearing that out of the blue,†Scott told SRS. “It was supposedly a floor mat issue. I remember telling the service manager, ‘I find it hard to believe Toyota buys back cars because of a floor mat problem.’ â€Â
And today, the mystery deepened. Toyota announced more floor mat recalls and under-the-floor-mat and trim interference recalls!
First, Toyota added three more models to its earlier all-weather floor mat recalls (also see Toyota All-Weather Floor Mat Entrapment) to address the potential for unsecured or incompatible floor mat entrapment of the accelerator pedal: the 2003 through 2009 4Runner; 2008 through 2011 Lexus LX 570; and the 2010 RAV4.
Second, it announced a new safety recall of approximately 20,000 2006 and early 2007 Model Year GS 300 and GS 350 All-Wheel Drive vehicles to modify the shape of the plastic pad embedded in the driver’s side floor carpet, which apparently can be moved during a service operation, and interfere with the gas pedal.
Third, it announced a recall of 372,000 2004 through 2006 and early 2007 RX 330, RX 350, and RX 400h vehicles, and 397,000 2004 through 2006 Highlander and Highlander HV vehicles, to replace the driver’s side floor carpet cover and its two retention clips, because “if the forward retention Ilip used to secure the floor carpet cover, which is located in front of the center console, is not installed properly, the cover may lean toward the accelerator pedal and interfere with the accelerator pedal arm.â€Â
And the freaky thing is – Toyota had already recalled the 2004-2005 and early 2006 Highlanders and 2004 – 2005 Lexus RX 330 and 2006 RX400h center console to replace the forward retention clip used to secure the floor carpet cover in front of the center console. In 2006 (06V253)! The campaign warned: “The two Retaining Clips for the driver’s side forward Center Console (Floor Carpet Cover) can become loose. If both clips separate from the Floor Carpet Cover, the cover may lean toward the accelerator pedal, causing interference with the accelerator pedal rod. In the worst case, this condition may interfere with the accelerator pedal returning to the idle position and thus may increase the possibility of a crash.â€Â
So is this a re-notification? The forward retention clip Toyota replaced five years ago is already breaking and they are worried about the rear clip, too? So many questions.
Now, Scott is no little old lady. He’s a strapping guy of 250 pounds who, as an RX owner, had been following all the Toyota news. The first thing he checked when he stopped his vehicle was the state of his carpet mats. They were secured, in place and nowhere near his accelerator.
“I don’t scare easy, but that scared the sâ€â€t out of me. If it had happened three minutes earlier, I would have plowed into the back of a school bus. I had all my weight on those brakes. The engine was screaming. And when I got the car to stop, I almost jumped out, because I thought it was going to explode,†he says “It’s a travesty what they are trying to do. The fact that there’s another massive round of recalls just underlines that there’s a problem. I don’t like that large corporations can get way with putting people’s lives in jeopardy.â€Â
Obviously, Mr. Scott did not get the memo from Ray and his band of rocket scientists: all mechanical causes of unintended acceleration have already been identified and remedied. There are no electronic or software problems with Toyotas.
P.S. Toyota, we don’t know if truth is stranger than fiction, but fiction sure is more work to maintain.
" Dear Toyota:
Why did you buy back Tim Scott’s 2007 Lexus RX? We mean, really? You gave him a bunch of different reasons, but he doesn’t believe you. (We’re finding it a little hard to swallow, too.)
Awaiting your reply,
SRS
Here’s Tim Scott’s story. In early December, as NHTSA and NASA were putting the finishing touches on their reports saying that there is nothing wrong with Toyota’s electronics or software, Scott experienced an unintended acceleration event in his 2007 Lexus RX350, on his way home from the gym. Here’s the narrative that Scott, 46, the chief financial officer for the International Union of Police Associations, wrote:
“At approx. 8:05 am on Thursday, December 2nd I was stopped behind a school bus that was picking up children at the intersection of Sarasota Square Blvd and Crockers Lake Blvd in Sarasota, FL. After the bus cleared the intersection (1-2 min wait) I gave the car enough gas to make the right hand turn onto Crockers Lake Blvd. which is only approx. 150-200 ft in length. I estimate the speed was between 10-15 mph when I began braking to make the left hand turn into the Citation Club Apartments when I noticed the vehicle was not slowing.
I pressed the brake pedal harder and the car continued to pull against the brakes. As I approached the end of Crockers Lake Blvd I had both feet on the brakes and the car was slowing, however the engine was “screaming†and the tachometer was approaching to “red-lineâ€Â. I managed to make the left hand turn and as the car slowed I shifted it into park to stop it. The engine was screaming so I turned the ignition to the off position.
I attempted to restart the vehicle and it immediately red-lined again; I immediately turned the car off. At this time two employees of Citation Club approached me on the passenger side in a service golf cart and asked what was wrong. I indicated I didn’t know but they should “hear this†at which time I started the car again and it again red-lined. I immediately turned the ignition off.
One of the Citation Club employees told me they would push me out of the entrance area to prevent my vehicle from being struck should someone attempt to enter the complex. Once safely parked, I exited the vehicle and immediately checked to be sure the floor mats were still secured by the anchors; they were. I looked for any type of obstruction near the accelerator and found none.â€Â
The dealership, Wilde Lexus, however did find a problem – they found three different problems. Or, rather, one problem that changed three times. First, they told him that his vehicle was equipped with the wrong carpet mats. Then they told him that the floor mats were the right size, but that they were “bunched up†around the accelerator. Then they told him that the driver’s side floor mat appeared to dislodge a section of molding that obstructed the accelerator. So – wrong-size floor mats, bunched up floor mats, then dislodged molding. Are you with us?
About a week later, the dealership informed him that even though they had isolated the problem to a carpeted floor mat, Lexus was sending a team of engineers to examine the vehicle. When the engineers arrived, they called Scott to ask if the accelerator was 25-percent or 50-percent depressed. The accelerator was zero-percent depressed – Scott was braking at the time the UA occurred.
Back to the narrative: “Late in the afternoon of December 20th I received a call from Lexus (Corporate) stating that the engineers had determined they ‘didn’t want to take any more chances with the vehicle on the road and that they wanted to purchase my vehicle back if I was interested.’ â€Â
Scott was interested – and stunned.
“I never anticipated hearing that out of the blue,†Scott told SRS. “It was supposedly a floor mat issue. I remember telling the service manager, ‘I find it hard to believe Toyota buys back cars because of a floor mat problem.’ â€Â
And today, the mystery deepened. Toyota announced more floor mat recalls and under-the-floor-mat and trim interference recalls!
First, Toyota added three more models to its earlier all-weather floor mat recalls (also see Toyota All-Weather Floor Mat Entrapment) to address the potential for unsecured or incompatible floor mat entrapment of the accelerator pedal: the 2003 through 2009 4Runner; 2008 through 2011 Lexus LX 570; and the 2010 RAV4.
Second, it announced a new safety recall of approximately 20,000 2006 and early 2007 Model Year GS 300 and GS 350 All-Wheel Drive vehicles to modify the shape of the plastic pad embedded in the driver’s side floor carpet, which apparently can be moved during a service operation, and interfere with the gas pedal.
Third, it announced a recall of 372,000 2004 through 2006 and early 2007 RX 330, RX 350, and RX 400h vehicles, and 397,000 2004 through 2006 Highlander and Highlander HV vehicles, to replace the driver’s side floor carpet cover and its two retention clips, because “if the forward retention Ilip used to secure the floor carpet cover, which is located in front of the center console, is not installed properly, the cover may lean toward the accelerator pedal and interfere with the accelerator pedal arm.â€Â
And the freaky thing is – Toyota had already recalled the 2004-2005 and early 2006 Highlanders and 2004 – 2005 Lexus RX 330 and 2006 RX400h center console to replace the forward retention clip used to secure the floor carpet cover in front of the center console. In 2006 (06V253)! The campaign warned: “The two Retaining Clips for the driver’s side forward Center Console (Floor Carpet Cover) can become loose. If both clips separate from the Floor Carpet Cover, the cover may lean toward the accelerator pedal, causing interference with the accelerator pedal rod. In the worst case, this condition may interfere with the accelerator pedal returning to the idle position and thus may increase the possibility of a crash.â€Â
So is this a re-notification? The forward retention clip Toyota replaced five years ago is already breaking and they are worried about the rear clip, too? So many questions.
Now, Scott is no little old lady. He’s a strapping guy of 250 pounds who, as an RX owner, had been following all the Toyota news. The first thing he checked when he stopped his vehicle was the state of his carpet mats. They were secured, in place and nowhere near his accelerator.
“I don’t scare easy, but that scared the sâ€â€t out of me. If it had happened three minutes earlier, I would have plowed into the back of a school bus. I had all my weight on those brakes. The engine was screaming. And when I got the car to stop, I almost jumped out, because I thought it was going to explode,†he says “It’s a travesty what they are trying to do. The fact that there’s another massive round of recalls just underlines that there’s a problem. I don’t like that large corporations can get way with putting people’s lives in jeopardy.â€Â
Obviously, Mr. Scott did not get the memo from Ray and his band of rocket scientists: all mechanical causes of unintended acceleration have already been identified and remedied. There are no electronic or software problems with Toyotas.
P.S. Toyota, we don’t know if truth is stranger than fiction, but fiction sure is more work to maintain.
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Ternyata kasus accelerasi mendadak toyota ngak cuman terjadi di Amerika saja, di negara lain juga ada :
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ire ... 34790.html
Toyota aware of accelerator pedals sticking since last year
TOYOTA FIRST learnt of the problem with accelerator pedals sticking in vehicles in Ireland and England in spring last year.
According to a letter sent to the car firm by the chairman of the US energy and commerce committee on Tuesday, Toyota officials told the committee on January 27th that the company first learned of this problem through reports of accelerator pedals sticking in vehicles in Ireland and England more than seven months ago.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ire ... 34790.html
Toyota aware of accelerator pedals sticking since last year
TOYOTA FIRST learnt of the problem with accelerator pedals sticking in vehicles in Ireland and England in spring last year.
According to a letter sent to the car firm by the chairman of the US energy and commerce committee on Tuesday, Toyota officials told the committee on January 27th that the company first learned of this problem through reports of accelerator pedals sticking in vehicles in Ireland and England more than seven months ago.
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Sekarang, di China dan Eropa ada ngak. Ternyata ada !
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 804275.htm
Sticky accelerator forces Toyota recall
Posted Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:03am AEDT
Japanese car-maker Toyota is to recall 75,000 cars in China over a possible problem with faulty accelerator pedals.
The company had earlier announced it would be recalling cars in Europe too.
Toyota says the number of vehicles and the models that will be recalled in Europe is still being investigated.
It said in some rare cases, the accelerator mechanism could become worn and stick while pressed down.
The same problem, which may cause a car to speed out of control, has led to a recall of 2.3 million vehicles in North America.
Sales have been suspended of eight Toyota models there, including the best-selling Camry.
Production will be stopped for at least a week in the company's factories in the United States and Canada.
-BBC
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 804275.htm
Sticky accelerator forces Toyota recall
Posted Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:03am AEDT
Japanese car-maker Toyota is to recall 75,000 cars in China over a possible problem with faulty accelerator pedals.
The company had earlier announced it would be recalling cars in Europe too.
Toyota says the number of vehicles and the models that will be recalled in Europe is still being investigated.
It said in some rare cases, the accelerator mechanism could become worn and stick while pressed down.
The same problem, which may cause a car to speed out of control, has led to a recall of 2.3 million vehicles in North America.
Sales have been suspended of eight Toyota models there, including the best-selling Camry.
Production will be stopped for at least a week in the company's factories in the United States and Canada.
-BBC
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toyotaman
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Dan ternyata jumlah mobil toyota di Eropa yang kena penyakit accelerasi mendadak juga cukup banyak : 1.8 JUTA mobil ! :
http://paultan.org/2010/01/29/toyota-st ... to-europe/
Toyota sticky accelerator recall crosses to Europe
January 29, 2010 at 10:05 am By Danny Tan Filed Under Cars, International News, Toyota
The recall in North America which has seen Toyota USA suspend sales of eight models and call back up to 2.3 million vehicles has spread to Europe, due to the same “sticky accelerator pedal†issue. Details of corrective action and implementation will be communicated directly to customers with vehicles potentially affected. The models and exact number of potentially affected vehicles is under investigation.
The Japanese carmaker said that there’s a possibility that certain accelerator pedal mechanisms may, in rare instances, mechanically stick in a partially depressed position or return slowly to the idle position. Progressive wear, combined with certain operating and environmental conditions, can increase friction in the mechanism leading to the problem. In case of occurrence, the driver may notice that the accelerator pedal is progressively harder to depress or is slower to return. A rough or chattered feeling may also be experienced when depressing/releasing the accelerator pedal.
A running change in production using different parts has already been implemented model-by-model in the European production. Therefore, there is no need or intention to stop production in Europe, says Toyota.
UPDATE: Toyota has announced that the Europe recall will involve eight models and up to 1.8 million vehicles. No other models or Lexus models are affected:
- AYGO (Feb 2005 – Aug 2009)
- iQ (Nov 2008 – Nov 2009)
- Yaris (Nov 2005 – Sep 2009)
- Auris (Oct 2006 – 5 Jan 2010)
- Corolla (Oct 2006 – Dec 2009)
- Verso (Feb 2009 – 5 Jan 2010)
- Avensis (Nov 2008 – Dec 2009)
- RAV4 (Nov 2005 – Nov 2009
http://paultan.org/2010/01/29/toyota-st ... to-europe/
Toyota sticky accelerator recall crosses to Europe
January 29, 2010 at 10:05 am By Danny Tan Filed Under Cars, International News, Toyota
The recall in North America which has seen Toyota USA suspend sales of eight models and call back up to 2.3 million vehicles has spread to Europe, due to the same “sticky accelerator pedal†issue. Details of corrective action and implementation will be communicated directly to customers with vehicles potentially affected. The models and exact number of potentially affected vehicles is under investigation.
The Japanese carmaker said that there’s a possibility that certain accelerator pedal mechanisms may, in rare instances, mechanically stick in a partially depressed position or return slowly to the idle position. Progressive wear, combined with certain operating and environmental conditions, can increase friction in the mechanism leading to the problem. In case of occurrence, the driver may notice that the accelerator pedal is progressively harder to depress or is slower to return. A rough or chattered feeling may also be experienced when depressing/releasing the accelerator pedal.
A running change in production using different parts has already been implemented model-by-model in the European production. Therefore, there is no need or intention to stop production in Europe, says Toyota.
UPDATE: Toyota has announced that the Europe recall will involve eight models and up to 1.8 million vehicles. No other models or Lexus models are affected:
- AYGO (Feb 2005 – Aug 2009)
- iQ (Nov 2008 – Nov 2009)
- Yaris (Nov 2005 – Sep 2009)
- Auris (Oct 2006 – 5 Jan 2010)
- Corolla (Oct 2006 – Dec 2009)
- Verso (Feb 2009 – 5 Jan 2010)
- Avensis (Nov 2008 – Dec 2009)
- RAV4 (Nov 2005 – Nov 2009
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toyotaman
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Tim Scott, yang kena kasus accelerasi mendadak toyota, itu benar ngak adalah chief financial officer for the International Union of Police Associations ? Jelas benar ! Dan ini ada photonya lagi :
http://www.iupa.org/index.php?option=co ... Itemid=168
Cerita kasusnya dia di sini :
http://www.safetyresearch.net/2011/02/2 ... a-edition/
http://www.iupa.org/index.php?option=co ... Itemid=168
Cerita kasusnya dia di sini :
http://www.safetyresearch.net/2011/02/2 ... a-edition/
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Bro Toyotaman, bosen postingan topik kejelekan Toyota melulu. Kalopun berita itu bener, toh Toyota akan menghadapi konsekwensinya.
Apa elo nggak pernah terpikir ttg kebaikan Toyota di negeri ini? Berapa Triliun pajak yg dibayarkan TAM setiap tahunnya ? Berapa puluh ribu karyawan yg bekerja di TAM ? Berapa banyak pemasok lokal yg mendapat order dari TAM ? Berapa ratus ribu puluhan keluarga Indonesia yg -menikmati produk toyota spt Kijang dan Avanza ?
Hati elo terlalu diliputi kebencian sama Toyota. Kasian bener idup elo. Bahkan seorang Malaikat-pun bisa menjadi Setan jika hatinya penuh dgn kebencian dan dendam kesumat. Bertobatlah sebelum terlambat...
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Om M-90, orang kayak gitu kok didengerin?? Di forum sebelah udah dibantai habis2an kok dia! Disini, kita baru kasi yang 'pedes dikit' aja udah surut lagi, ngebrowsing web sampah yang ngeblow Toyota Fault mlulu. Persis orang pengecut atau kaki tangannya GM atau US Lawyer untuk menghujat habis2an Toyota. Kasian, hidup Toyotaman hanya untuk itu, untuk menuruti kebenciannya pada Toyota, nggada lagi hidupnya untuk sesuatu yang lebig bermanfaat dan efisien dalam waktu daripada menghabiskan waktunya mengubek2 internet. Ketauan kan, sbenernya dia manusia produktif atau engga?
Orang yang dewasa adalah orang yang bisa menerima perbedaan. Sudah pernah saya katakan, saya ex orang Idmoc. Di bengkel anak2 Idmoc, mekaniknya juga mengangani Toyota Starlet, TKCI, anak2 Corolla, penunggang BMW seri 7, Volvo, Holden...
Orang yang dewasa itu memberi solusi. Bukan menyalahkan. Di bengkel, sudah umum penyakit Kijang super, kapsul, atau Toyota itu apa ajah. Kita perbaiki bersama, BUKAN dengan ngoceh sana sini kayak ELOE, Toyotaman! Loe emang tipikal NO ACTION, TALK Only!!.
Toyotaman, Anda percis bangeth ama model iklan rokok terbaru, yang slalu nelpon2,"tukangnya manaaa..?" ampe tenggelampun dia tetep ngemeng doank....
Oom M-90 kan juga ngga mau kalo sampe jadi ngga produktif hanya karena menanggapi The One That You Ought to Avoid, Man!
Biarkan dia mati tenggelam sendiri dalam NATO nya, tokh orang kayak Toyotaman ngga butuh temen! Dia bisa jalan sendiri ke kuburannya kalo udah mati! Atau, teman2 yang nyogok dia untuk menebar kebencian Toyota lah yang (mungkin) akan menguburkannya..
Ngga lama kok hidup orang kayak Toyotaman!
Orang yang dewasa adalah orang yang bisa menerima perbedaan. Sudah pernah saya katakan, saya ex orang Idmoc. Di bengkel anak2 Idmoc, mekaniknya juga mengangani Toyota Starlet, TKCI, anak2 Corolla, penunggang BMW seri 7, Volvo, Holden...
Orang yang dewasa itu memberi solusi. Bukan menyalahkan. Di bengkel, sudah umum penyakit Kijang super, kapsul, atau Toyota itu apa ajah. Kita perbaiki bersama, BUKAN dengan ngoceh sana sini kayak ELOE, Toyotaman! Loe emang tipikal NO ACTION, TALK Only!!.
Toyotaman, Anda percis bangeth ama model iklan rokok terbaru, yang slalu nelpon2,"tukangnya manaaa..?" ampe tenggelampun dia tetep ngemeng doank....
Oom M-90 kan juga ngga mau kalo sampe jadi ngga produktif hanya karena menanggapi The One That You Ought to Avoid, Man!
Biarkan dia mati tenggelam sendiri dalam NATO nya, tokh orang kayak Toyotaman ngga butuh temen! Dia bisa jalan sendiri ke kuburannya kalo udah mati! Atau, teman2 yang nyogok dia untuk menebar kebencian Toyota lah yang (mungkin) akan menguburkannya..
Ngga lama kok hidup orang kayak Toyotaman!
" It is not the eyes that are blind, but the hearts "
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Itu lah....my dead cat theory gitu loooo....
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IMHO:
hendaknya memang berita / opini ditujukan ke sasaran yg tepat.
Berita2 yg sering di posting om TM itu harusnya lebih cocok jika om TM menginfokan lgs ke Instansi macam Deperindag atau bahkan mungkin jika om TM merasa perlu juga infokan ke KPK.
Kalo menginfokan ke user sebaiknya infokan hal-hal yg berguna bagi user, misalnya posting berita ttg data2 mobil Toyota tahun brp aja / dgn nomor chassis / engine mana aja yg perlu di cek.
Kalo kata pepatah Bijak "Pandai pandailah membawa Diri" / "Jadilah solusi bagi orang lain, dan jangan menjadi bagian masalah bagi orang lain"
Sorry yah, nggak bermaksud menguliahi.
hendaknya memang berita / opini ditujukan ke sasaran yg tepat.
Berita2 yg sering di posting om TM itu harusnya lebih cocok jika om TM menginfokan lgs ke Instansi macam Deperindag atau bahkan mungkin jika om TM merasa perlu juga infokan ke KPK.
Kalo menginfokan ke user sebaiknya infokan hal-hal yg berguna bagi user, misalnya posting berita ttg data2 mobil Toyota tahun brp aja / dgn nomor chassis / engine mana aja yg perlu di cek.
Kalo kata pepatah Bijak "Pandai pandailah membawa Diri" / "Jadilah solusi bagi orang lain, dan jangan menjadi bagian masalah bagi orang lain"
Sorry yah, nggak bermaksud menguliahi.
* Bukan ajakan Beli *
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Sejauh saya pantau...bang TM(sama2 TM ya)...1 nya mempunyai itikad utk menjelekkan merk Toyota, 1 nya lagi sudah dijabarkan di atas.....dari semula itikad nya tidak pernah baik diantara salah satu dari dua bang TM.Turboman wrote:IMHO:
hendaknya memang berita / opini ditujukan ke sasaran yg tepat.
Berita2 yg sering di posting om TM itu harusnya lebih cocok jika om TM menginfokan lgs ke Instansi macam Deperindag atau bahkan mungkin jika om TM merasa perlu juga infokan ke KPK.
Kalo menginfokan ke user sebaiknya infokan hal-hal yg berguna bagi user, misalnya posting berita ttg data2 mobil Toyota tahun brp aja / dgn nomor chassis / engine mana aja yg perlu di cek.
Kalo kata pepatah Bijak "Pandai pandailah membawa Diri" / "Jadilah solusi bagi orang lain, dan jangan menjadi bagian masalah bagi orang lain"
Sorry yah, nggak bermaksud menguliahi.
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Ini TM yg mana bang zemb?ZombiEE wrote:Sejauh saya pantau...bang TM(sama2 TM ya)...1 nya mempunyai itikad utk menjelekkan merk Toyota, 1 nya lagi sudah dijabarkan di atas.....dari semula itikad nya tidak pernah baik diantara salah satu dari dua bang TM.Turboman wrote:IMHO:
hendaknya memang berita / opini ditujukan ke sasaran yg tepat.
Berita2 yg sering di posting om TM itu harusnya lebih cocok jika om TM menginfokan lgs ke Instansi macam Deperindag atau bahkan mungkin jika om TM merasa perlu juga infokan ke KPK.
Kalo menginfokan ke user sebaiknya infokan hal-hal yg berguna bagi user, misalnya posting berita ttg data2 mobil Toyota tahun brp aja / dgn nomor chassis / engine mana aja yg perlu di cek.
Kalo kata pepatah Bijak "Pandai pandailah membawa Diri" / "Jadilah solusi bagi orang lain, dan jangan menjadi bagian masalah bagi orang lain"
Sorry yah, nggak bermaksud menguliahi.
Yg pake toyota ato turbo?
kaboer ah....................
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Ikut . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .BADAK wrote:Ini TM yg mana bang zemb?ZombiEE wrote:Sejauh saya pantau...bang TM(sama2 TM ya)...1 nya mempunyai itikad utk menjelekkan merk Toyota, 1 nya lagi sudah dijabarkan di atas.....dari semula itikad nya tidak pernah baik diantara salah satu dari dua bang TM.Turboman wrote:IMHO:
hendaknya memang berita / opini ditujukan ke sasaran yg tepat.
Berita2 yg sering di posting om TM itu harusnya lebih cocok jika om TM menginfokan lgs ke Instansi macam Deperindag atau bahkan mungkin jika om TM merasa perlu juga infokan ke KPK.
Kalo menginfokan ke user sebaiknya infokan hal-hal yg berguna bagi user, misalnya posting berita ttg data2 mobil Toyota tahun brp aja / dgn nomor chassis / engine mana aja yg perlu di cek.
Kalo kata pepatah Bijak "Pandai pandailah membawa Diri" / "Jadilah solusi bagi orang lain, dan jangan menjadi bagian masalah bagi orang lain"
Sorry yah, nggak bermaksud menguliahi.
Yg pake toyota ato turbo?
kaboer ah....................
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Re: UPDATE : KASUS KASUS BARU toyota
The World's Top 10 Car Brands - 2010 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/0 ... s-in-2010/
Car Brand Sales 2010 Sales 2009 Difference
1 – Toyota 5,496,346 5,128,647 7.2%
2 – Volkswagen 4,407,062 3,972,839 10.9%
3 – Ford 4,320,792 3,901,315 10.8%
4 – Chevrolet 3,592,600 2,939,026 22.2%
5 – Honda 3,152,197 3,017,491 4.5%
6 – Nissan 3,088,298 2,621,882 17.8%
7 – Hyundai 2,931,325 2,608,220 12.4%
8 – Fiat 1,853,282 1,954,250 -5.3%
9 – Renault 1,668,615 1,481,045 12.7%
10 – Kia 1,593,602 1,297,555 22.8%
Biar toyotaman makin semangat...
Car Brand Sales 2010 Sales 2009 Difference
1 – Toyota 5,496,346 5,128,647 7.2%
2 – Volkswagen 4,407,062 3,972,839 10.9%
3 – Ford 4,320,792 3,901,315 10.8%
4 – Chevrolet 3,592,600 2,939,026 22.2%
5 – Honda 3,152,197 3,017,491 4.5%
6 – Nissan 3,088,298 2,621,882 17.8%
7 – Hyundai 2,931,325 2,608,220 12.4%
8 – Fiat 1,853,282 1,954,250 -5.3%
9 – Renault 1,668,615 1,481,045 12.7%
10 – Kia 1,593,602 1,297,555 22.8%
Biar toyotaman makin semangat...
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toyotaman
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Re: UPDATE : KASUS KASUS BARU toyota
Ini kata yang paling BODOH yang saya pernah dengarkan ! Pusing amat ama berapa orang yang di kerjakan tam atau berapa pajak yang mereka stor ke negara. Kenapa ?
Tinggal pikir aja, andai kata suatu hari toyota tidak lagi ada di Indonesia. Apakah tu puluhan ribu orang pekerjanya akan jadi nganggur ? Apakah storan pajak besar akan hilang semua ? Tentu tidak ! Apa yang akan terjadi ?
1. Penjualan toyota akan pindah ke Nissan, Honda, GM, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Suzuki etc.. Emang cuman toyota doang yang jualan mobil murah ?
2. Storan pajak akan tetap tinggi ! Cuman bedanya sekarang yang bayar adalah ATPM lain !
3. Kalau toyota tidak ada, ATPM lain akan expansi pabrik untuk hadapi permintaan yang naik, dan saat itu mereka pasti lebih suka recruit mantan pekerja tam dari pada harus training orang baru. Jadi para pekerja toyota bisa join ATPM lain !
4. Supplier yang dulu dapat banyak order dari toyota, akan dapat pula banyak order baru dari ATPM lain !
Jadi kalau toyota ngak ada lagi di Indonesia, tidak ada pihak di Indonesia yang di rugikan kok ! Pusing amat ! Cuman petinggi tam aja yang jadi nganggur. Tapi toh untuk mereka bukan masalah, karena mereka sudah menikmati gaji tinggi puluhan tahun. Tinggal tidur aja di rumah terus. Udah kaya ini ?
Jadi sebenernya kalau toyota ngak ada di Indonesia, sama sekali tidak masalah. Para pabrik mobil lain tinggal takeover !
Malah saat itu, rakyat Indonesia mau ngak mau tinggalkan mobil macam avanza yang hasil uji tabrakannya tidak bagus, dan mau ngak mau beli lebih banyak mobil murah lain yang hasil uji tabrakannya bagus, JDM standard gitu, seperti Nissan March / Grand Livina, Honda Brio (kalau nanti masuk), Honda Jazz, Ford Fiesta, Hyundai i-20, H1, Mazda 2, Suzuki Swift.
Jadi effectnya akan seperti kalau rokok satu hari di BAN. Masyarakat mau ngak mau terpaksa harus beli barang lain yang lebih " aman " untuk kesehatan !
BAGUS untuk Indonesia ! Bayangkan saat hari itu, mudah mudahan nanti nyaris semua rakyat Indonesia beli dan pakai mobil terjangkau yang hasil uji tabrakannya bagus !
Tinggal pikir aja, andai kata suatu hari toyota tidak lagi ada di Indonesia. Apakah tu puluhan ribu orang pekerjanya akan jadi nganggur ? Apakah storan pajak besar akan hilang semua ? Tentu tidak ! Apa yang akan terjadi ?
1. Penjualan toyota akan pindah ke Nissan, Honda, GM, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Suzuki etc.. Emang cuman toyota doang yang jualan mobil murah ?
2. Storan pajak akan tetap tinggi ! Cuman bedanya sekarang yang bayar adalah ATPM lain !
3. Kalau toyota tidak ada, ATPM lain akan expansi pabrik untuk hadapi permintaan yang naik, dan saat itu mereka pasti lebih suka recruit mantan pekerja tam dari pada harus training orang baru. Jadi para pekerja toyota bisa join ATPM lain !
4. Supplier yang dulu dapat banyak order dari toyota, akan dapat pula banyak order baru dari ATPM lain !
Jadi kalau toyota ngak ada lagi di Indonesia, tidak ada pihak di Indonesia yang di rugikan kok ! Pusing amat ! Cuman petinggi tam aja yang jadi nganggur. Tapi toh untuk mereka bukan masalah, karena mereka sudah menikmati gaji tinggi puluhan tahun. Tinggal tidur aja di rumah terus. Udah kaya ini ?
Jadi sebenernya kalau toyota ngak ada di Indonesia, sama sekali tidak masalah. Para pabrik mobil lain tinggal takeover !
Malah saat itu, rakyat Indonesia mau ngak mau tinggalkan mobil macam avanza yang hasil uji tabrakannya tidak bagus, dan mau ngak mau beli lebih banyak mobil murah lain yang hasil uji tabrakannya bagus, JDM standard gitu, seperti Nissan March / Grand Livina, Honda Brio (kalau nanti masuk), Honda Jazz, Ford Fiesta, Hyundai i-20, H1, Mazda 2, Suzuki Swift.
Jadi effectnya akan seperti kalau rokok satu hari di BAN. Masyarakat mau ngak mau terpaksa harus beli barang lain yang lebih " aman " untuk kesehatan !
BAGUS untuk Indonesia ! Bayangkan saat hari itu, mudah mudahan nanti nyaris semua rakyat Indonesia beli dan pakai mobil terjangkau yang hasil uji tabrakannya bagus !
M-90 wrote:
Bro Toyotaman, bosen postingan topik kejelekan Toyota melulu. Kalopun berita itu bener, toh Toyota akan menghadapi konsekwensinya.
Apa elo nggak pernah terpikir ttg kebaikan Toyota di negeri ini? Berapa Triliun pajak yg dibayarkan TAM setiap tahunnya ? Berapa puluh ribu karyawan yg bekerja di TAM ? Berapa banyak pemasok lokal yg mendapat order dari TAM ? Berapa ratus ribu puluhan keluarga Indonesia yg -menikmati produk toyota spt Kijang dan Avanza ?
Hati elo terlalu diliputi kebencian sama Toyota. Kasian bener idup elo. Bahkan seorang Malaikat-pun bisa menjadi Setan jika hatinya penuh dgn kebencian dan dendam kesumat. Bertobatlah sebelum terlambat...
Peace
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Re: UPDATE : KASUS KASUS BARU toyota
Lihat sendiri TRENDnya. toyota tumbuh salah satu paling pelan ! Cuman 7.2% doang. Coba banding ama merek lain yang tumbuhnya jauh lebih cepat :
1. VW tumbuh 10.9 %
2. Ford tumbuh 10.8 %
3. Si bobrok menurut fm Chevrolet (GM) malah tumbuh 22.2 %
4. Nissan tumbuh 17.8 %
5. Hyundai aja tumbuh 12.4 %
6. Renault tumbuh 12.7%
7. Dan si Kia malah jago banget, tumbuh 22.8 % !
8. Honda memang tumbuhnya pelan, 4.5 %, tapi dia pada dasarnya ngak ada masalah besar kok. Jadi its OK.
Kalau gini terus, pikir sendiri, ngak lama lagi toyota akan makin merosot terus... Toh mereka udah mulai banyak orang benci kok, ya habis gimana, masa permainkan nyawa orang demi hemat ratusan juta dollar ! Kan gila itu ! Belum kasus di pengadilan di mana toyota tidak patuh ama hukum !
Toyota, BP join US’ most hated firms
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/arc ... 2003492941
1. VW tumbuh 10.9 %
2. Ford tumbuh 10.8 %
3. Si bobrok menurut fm Chevrolet (GM) malah tumbuh 22.2 %
4. Nissan tumbuh 17.8 %
5. Hyundai aja tumbuh 12.4 %
6. Renault tumbuh 12.7%
7. Dan si Kia malah jago banget, tumbuh 22.8 % !
8. Honda memang tumbuhnya pelan, 4.5 %, tapi dia pada dasarnya ngak ada masalah besar kok. Jadi its OK.
Kalau gini terus, pikir sendiri, ngak lama lagi toyota akan makin merosot terus... Toh mereka udah mulai banyak orang benci kok, ya habis gimana, masa permainkan nyawa orang demi hemat ratusan juta dollar ! Kan gila itu ! Belum kasus di pengadilan di mana toyota tidak patuh ama hukum !
Toyota, BP join US’ most hated firms
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/arc ... 2003492941
FortunerMan wrote:The World's Top 10 Car Brands - 2010 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/0 ... s-in-2010/
Car Brand Sales 2010 Sales 2009 Difference
1 – Toyota 5,496,346 5,128,647 7.2%
2 – Volkswagen 4,407,062 3,972,839 10.9%
3 – Ford 4,320,792 3,901,315 10.8%
4 – Chevrolet 3,592,600 2,939,026 22.2%
5 – Honda 3,152,197 3,017,491 4.5%
6 – Nissan 3,088,298 2,621,882 17.8%
7 – Hyundai 2,931,325 2,608,220 12.4%
8 – Fiat 1,853,282 1,954,250 -5.3%
9 – Renault 1,668,615 1,481,045 12.7%
10 – Kia 1,593,602 1,297,555 22.8%
Biar toyotaman makin semangat...
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-0 ... 2796.story
Texas Supreme Court rules against Toyota in rollover case
The carmaker is ordered to face contempt charges in a suit filed by a paralyzed woman who received a $1.5-million settlement. She now says she settled only because the firm withheld documents.
By Ken Bensinger, Los Angeles Times
August 31, 2010
Toyota Motor Corp. must face charges that it acted in contempt of court in a 2007 lawsuit involving a paralyzed woman, the Texas Supreme Court has ruled.
Pennie Green, permanently injured five years ago when her Camry rolled over, originally settled the personal injury suit for $1.5 million. But last fall she filed a motion in state court alleging that the automaker had deliberately withheld documents related to vehicle safety in the course of that case, leading her to settle rather than seek more money or go to trial.
In late February, Toyota asked the state's highest judicial body to stay that case and dismiss the contempt motion, arguing that the courts did not have jurisdiction in the matter. On Friday, however, the court lifted the stay, allowing the proceedings to continue.
The ruling could have serious implications for Toyota. If Greene's allegations are upheld the Japanese automaker could face not only a civil sanction, but also the prospect that dozens  if not hundreds  of other long-closed lawsuits against the automaker could be reconsidered on similar grounds.
Green's attorney, Jeff Embry, said that if Toyota was hit with a contempt ruling his client would consider asking the court to reopen her personal injury case. "Ms. Green is going to want to consider her options," Embry said.
Toyota is facing hundreds of lawsuits stemming from its rash of sudden-acceleration-related recalls over the last year. The company in April agreed to pay a record $16.4-million fine to regulators for delaying a recall for gas pedals that can stick.
"Toyota is confident that we have acted appropriately with respect to product-liability litigation and our discovery practices, including in the Green case," the company said in a statement. "We are considering our options related to this ruling and intend to vigorously defend ourselves against any claims of impropriety in this matter."
Green's original suit against Toyota, alleging that the 1997 Camry had defects in the design of its roof and seat belts, was settled out of court and subsequently dismissed in April 2007.
In September she filed the contempt motion, based on allegations made by Dimitrios Biller, a former Toyota lawyer who defended the company in her case and has since left the company.
According to Biller's suit against Toyota, filed in federal court in California, Toyota "conspired and continues to conspire, to unlawfully withhold evidence from plaintiffs" in rollover cases. Biller specifically mentioned several cases he handled for Toyota, among them the Green case.
In a 2006 internal e-mail subpoenaed by Congress this year, Biller wrote that he was forced to settle with Green to prevent her from gaining access to certain company documents, known as "Books of Knowledge."
"Frankly," Biller wrote in the e-mail, "plaintiff's discovery efforts … were getting too close to requiring [Toyota] to produce the 'Books of Knowledge.' "
Biller had been subpoenaed to testify in the Green case in February, but just before his appearance, Toyota asked the state Supreme Court for the stay. The automaker's attorney in the case, former Texas Solicitor Gen. R. Ted Cruz, argued that the state court lost jurisdiction 30 days after the case was originally dismissed.
With the stay lifted, Biller will probably be able to testify in the matter, which is before Johnson County District Judge John Neill in Cleburne, outside Fort Worth. Embry said he would attempt to get Biller back in court as soon as possible and that he expected a formal hearing on the contempt motion in as little as four weeks.
"We are disappointed that Mr. Biller is using the tragedy of Ms. Green's accident to further his own claims against Toyota, which we strongly dispute and will continue to fight," the company said in its statement.
Biller's own suit against Toyota, filed in the U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, is pending and in arbitration. The arbitrator in that case is considering whether thousands of Toyota documents held by Biller are privileged or whether they can be made public based on Biller's charges that they contain evidence of fraud.
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Copyright © 2011, Los Angeles Times
Texas Supreme Court rules against Toyota in rollover case
The carmaker is ordered to face contempt charges in a suit filed by a paralyzed woman who received a $1.5-million settlement. She now says she settled only because the firm withheld documents.
By Ken Bensinger, Los Angeles Times
August 31, 2010
Toyota Motor Corp. must face charges that it acted in contempt of court in a 2007 lawsuit involving a paralyzed woman, the Texas Supreme Court has ruled.
Pennie Green, permanently injured five years ago when her Camry rolled over, originally settled the personal injury suit for $1.5 million. But last fall she filed a motion in state court alleging that the automaker had deliberately withheld documents related to vehicle safety in the course of that case, leading her to settle rather than seek more money or go to trial.
In late February, Toyota asked the state's highest judicial body to stay that case and dismiss the contempt motion, arguing that the courts did not have jurisdiction in the matter. On Friday, however, the court lifted the stay, allowing the proceedings to continue.
The ruling could have serious implications for Toyota. If Greene's allegations are upheld the Japanese automaker could face not only a civil sanction, but also the prospect that dozens  if not hundreds  of other long-closed lawsuits against the automaker could be reconsidered on similar grounds.
Green's attorney, Jeff Embry, said that if Toyota was hit with a contempt ruling his client would consider asking the court to reopen her personal injury case. "Ms. Green is going to want to consider her options," Embry said.
Toyota is facing hundreds of lawsuits stemming from its rash of sudden-acceleration-related recalls over the last year. The company in April agreed to pay a record $16.4-million fine to regulators for delaying a recall for gas pedals that can stick.
"Toyota is confident that we have acted appropriately with respect to product-liability litigation and our discovery practices, including in the Green case," the company said in a statement. "We are considering our options related to this ruling and intend to vigorously defend ourselves against any claims of impropriety in this matter."
Green's original suit against Toyota, alleging that the 1997 Camry had defects in the design of its roof and seat belts, was settled out of court and subsequently dismissed in April 2007.
In September she filed the contempt motion, based on allegations made by Dimitrios Biller, a former Toyota lawyer who defended the company in her case and has since left the company.
According to Biller's suit against Toyota, filed in federal court in California, Toyota "conspired and continues to conspire, to unlawfully withhold evidence from plaintiffs" in rollover cases. Biller specifically mentioned several cases he handled for Toyota, among them the Green case.
In a 2006 internal e-mail subpoenaed by Congress this year, Biller wrote that he was forced to settle with Green to prevent her from gaining access to certain company documents, known as "Books of Knowledge."
"Frankly," Biller wrote in the e-mail, "plaintiff's discovery efforts … were getting too close to requiring [Toyota] to produce the 'Books of Knowledge.' "
Biller had been subpoenaed to testify in the Green case in February, but just before his appearance, Toyota asked the state Supreme Court for the stay. The automaker's attorney in the case, former Texas Solicitor Gen. R. Ted Cruz, argued that the state court lost jurisdiction 30 days after the case was originally dismissed.
With the stay lifted, Biller will probably be able to testify in the matter, which is before Johnson County District Judge John Neill in Cleburne, outside Fort Worth. Embry said he would attempt to get Biller back in court as soon as possible and that he expected a formal hearing on the contempt motion in as little as four weeks.
"We are disappointed that Mr. Biller is using the tragedy of Ms. Green's accident to further his own claims against Toyota, which we strongly dispute and will continue to fight," the company said in its statement.
Biller's own suit against Toyota, filed in the U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, is pending and in arbitration. The arbitrator in that case is considering whether thousands of Toyota documents held by Biller are privileged or whether they can be made public based on Biller's charges that they contain evidence of fraud.
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Copyright © 2011, Los Angeles Times
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-0 ... 9323.story
Toyota subpoenaed again, this time over faulty steering components
Grand jury seeks documents related to steering relay rods, which are crucial to the handling and control of vehicles, as investigations into sudden acceleration and other safety matters continue.
By Ken Bensinger, Los Angeles Times
July 20, 2010, 8:08 p.m.
A federal grand jury investigating Toyota Motor Corp. is expanding its inquiry into the automaker's handling of safety issues, subpoenaing documents dealing with defects unrelated to sudden acceleration.
The Japanese automaker disclosed Tuesday that a federal grand jury in New York's Southern District had subpoenaed documents related to faulty steering components. That broadens the panel's inquiry beyond problems related to unintended-acceleration issues, which have led Toyota to issue more than 10 million recall notices worldwide since September.
The subpoena, issued June 29, requests documents related to "defective, broken and/or fractured steering relay rods of Toyota vehicles," Toyota said in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
"We'll cooperate with the grand jury request," said Mike Michels, a spokesman for Toyota at its Torrance sales headquarters.
The automaker is already under scrutiny by federal safety regulators over its 2005 recall of nearly 1 million pickups and SUVs for steering relay rods that could break without warning.
That investigation, launched by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in May, seeks to determine whether the automaker delayed the recall, a potential violation of federal law.
A spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office for the Southern District of New York, which works with the federal grand jury examining Toyota, declined to comment.
In February, the same federal grand jury subpoenaed Toyota for information related to unintended acceleration in its vehicles as well as braking systems in the Prius hybrid. Toyota has also received subpoenas related to sudden acceleration from the SEC and the attorney general of Michigan.
In April, it agreed to pay a record $16.4-million fine for delaying a recall of gas pedals that could stick.
Toyota did not disclose which vehicles or model years were targeted by the latest subpoena. But its handling of steering defects had come under scrutiny from NHTSA.
In September 2005, Toyota recalled three vehicles covering the 1989 to 1998 model years, including the 4Runner, to repair steering relay rods. That recall affected 977,000 vehicles.
NHTSA officials say they are exploring the timing of the recall, which came nearly a year after a similar action in Japan for the same defect.
According to Toyota, the relay rod could suddenly fail, causing partial or total loss of vehicle control. Such a failure occurred in a Toyota Hilux in Japan in 2004, causing injuries to five people and triggering a police probe of the automaker that indicated that it may have known about the defect for well over a decade before taking action, according to court records.
At the time of the Japanese recall, in October 2004, Toyota informed NHTSA that no recall was necessary in the U.S. because there were no reports of problems here.
John Kristensen, an attorney representing the families of two people killed in accidents involving vehicles subject to that recall, requested that NHTSA open its timeliness investigation in the spring.
He said documents showed that Toyota had received scores, if not hundreds, of complaints from consumers about the vehicle as early as 2000. The Times first reported on those earlier complaints in December.
"We've always contended that they knew steering rods were breaking in the U.S. before they announced the recall in Japan," Kristensen said.
Although it is against the law to mislead NHTSA about safety defects in vehicles, prosecutors have rarely if ever charged an automaker with such a violation.
One reason, according to Ellen Podgor, a professor at Stetson University College of Law in Gulfport, Fla., and an expert in white-collar crime, is the enormous complexity of such cases and the eagerness of companies to settle by paying a substantial fine before charges are ever filed.
Increasingly, she said, the Justice Department offers such a deal to companies rather than take them to court. "The collateral damage can be so great to a company if it is indicted," Podgor said. "A company always wants to work something out."
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Toyota subpoenaed again, this time over faulty steering components
Grand jury seeks documents related to steering relay rods, which are crucial to the handling and control of vehicles, as investigations into sudden acceleration and other safety matters continue.
By Ken Bensinger, Los Angeles Times
July 20, 2010, 8:08 p.m.
A federal grand jury investigating Toyota Motor Corp. is expanding its inquiry into the automaker's handling of safety issues, subpoenaing documents dealing with defects unrelated to sudden acceleration.
The Japanese automaker disclosed Tuesday that a federal grand jury in New York's Southern District had subpoenaed documents related to faulty steering components. That broadens the panel's inquiry beyond problems related to unintended-acceleration issues, which have led Toyota to issue more than 10 million recall notices worldwide since September.
The subpoena, issued June 29, requests documents related to "defective, broken and/or fractured steering relay rods of Toyota vehicles," Toyota said in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
"We'll cooperate with the grand jury request," said Mike Michels, a spokesman for Toyota at its Torrance sales headquarters.
The automaker is already under scrutiny by federal safety regulators over its 2005 recall of nearly 1 million pickups and SUVs for steering relay rods that could break without warning.
That investigation, launched by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in May, seeks to determine whether the automaker delayed the recall, a potential violation of federal law.
A spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office for the Southern District of New York, which works with the federal grand jury examining Toyota, declined to comment.
In February, the same federal grand jury subpoenaed Toyota for information related to unintended acceleration in its vehicles as well as braking systems in the Prius hybrid. Toyota has also received subpoenas related to sudden acceleration from the SEC and the attorney general of Michigan.
In April, it agreed to pay a record $16.4-million fine for delaying a recall of gas pedals that could stick.
Toyota did not disclose which vehicles or model years were targeted by the latest subpoena. But its handling of steering defects had come under scrutiny from NHTSA.
In September 2005, Toyota recalled three vehicles covering the 1989 to 1998 model years, including the 4Runner, to repair steering relay rods. That recall affected 977,000 vehicles.
NHTSA officials say they are exploring the timing of the recall, which came nearly a year after a similar action in Japan for the same defect.
According to Toyota, the relay rod could suddenly fail, causing partial or total loss of vehicle control. Such a failure occurred in a Toyota Hilux in Japan in 2004, causing injuries to five people and triggering a police probe of the automaker that indicated that it may have known about the defect for well over a decade before taking action, according to court records.
At the time of the Japanese recall, in October 2004, Toyota informed NHTSA that no recall was necessary in the U.S. because there were no reports of problems here.
John Kristensen, an attorney representing the families of two people killed in accidents involving vehicles subject to that recall, requested that NHTSA open its timeliness investigation in the spring.
He said documents showed that Toyota had received scores, if not hundreds, of complaints from consumers about the vehicle as early as 2000. The Times first reported on those earlier complaints in December.
"We've always contended that they knew steering rods were breaking in the U.S. before they announced the recall in Japan," Kristensen said.
Although it is against the law to mislead NHTSA about safety defects in vehicles, prosecutors have rarely if ever charged an automaker with such a violation.
One reason, according to Ellen Podgor, a professor at Stetson University College of Law in Gulfport, Fla., and an expert in white-collar crime, is the enormous complexity of such cases and the eagerness of companies to settle by paying a substantial fine before charges are ever filed.
Increasingly, she said, the Justice Department offers such a deal to companies rather than take them to court. "The collateral damage can be so great to a company if it is indicted," Podgor said. "A company always wants to work something out."
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Re: UPDATE : KASUS KASUS BARU toyota
Ini adalah ucapan PALING TOLOL dari pasien Rumah Sakit Jiwa yang lolos bisa akses internet bernama TOYOTAMAN yang udah kepepet ngga bisa ngomong apa2 lagi!toyotaman wrote:Ini kata yang paling BODOH yang saya pernah dengarkan ! Pusing amat ama berapa orang yang di kerjakan tam atau berapa pajak yang mereka stor ke negara. Kenapa ?
Tinggal pikir aja, andai kata suatu hari toyota tidak lagi ada di Indonesia. Apakah tu puluhan ribu orang pekerjanya akan jadi nganggur ? Apakah storan pajak besar akan hilang semua ? Tentu tidak ! Apa yang akan terjadi ?
1. Penjualan toyota akan pindah ke Nissan, Honda, GM, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Suzuki etc.. Emang cuman toyota doang yang jualan mobil murah ?
2. Storan pajak akan tetap tinggi ! Cuman bedanya sekarang yang bayar adalah ATPM lain !
3. Kalau toyota tidak ada, ATPM lain akan expansi pabrik untuk hadapi permintaan yang naik, dan saat itu mereka pasti lebih suka recruit mantan pekerja tam dari pada harus training orang baru. Jadi para pekerja toyota bisa join ATPM lain !
4. Supplier yang dulu dapat banyak order dari toyota, akan dapat pula banyak order baru dari ATPM lain !
Jadi kalau toyota ngak ada lagi di Indonesia, tidak ada pihak di Indonesia yang di rugikan kok ! Pusing amat ! Cuman petinggi tam aja yang jadi nganggur. Tapi toh untuk mereka bukan masalah, karena mereka sudah menikmati gaji tinggi puluhan tahun. Tinggal tidur aja di rumah terus. Udah kaya ini ?
Jadi sebenernya kalau toyota ngak ada di Indonesia, sama sekali tidak masalah. Para pabrik mobil lain tinggal takeover !
Malah saat itu, rakyat Indonesia mau ngak mau tinggalkan mobil macam avanza yang hasil uji tabrakannya tidak bagus, dan mau ngak mau beli lebih banyak mobil murah lain yang hasil uji tabrakannya bagus, JDM standard gitu, seperti Nissan March / Grand Livina, Honda Brio (kalau nanti masuk), Honda Jazz, Ford Fiesta, Hyundai i-20, H1, Mazda 2, Suzuki Swift.
Jadi effectnya akan seperti kalau rokok satu hari di BAN. Masyarakat mau ngak mau terpaksa harus beli barang lain yang lebih " aman " untuk kesehatan !
BAGUS untuk Indonesia ! Bayangkan saat hari itu, mudah mudahan nanti nyaris semua rakyat Indonesia beli dan pakai mobil terjangkau yang hasil uji tabrakannya bagus !
Puluhan ribu karyawannya mau dikasi makan apa, TOLOL???? Dikasi makan besi rongsok mobil eloe yang jeblok, TOYOTAMAN?????? DIKASI MAKAN WEB SAMPAH ELOE???? Mobil eloe ngga laku di Indonesia, ELOE malah nyampah2!!! Orang kayak Eloe ini yang paling cocok dipanggil INDON, TAU!!!
Ente emang ngga pusing2 amat, karena ENTE emang ENGGA KERJA!!!!! Itu kesimpulan gue!!! Ente ngga ngrasain pecah kepala nyari kerjaan walopun hanya untuk sesuap nasi sebulan dengan jadi buruh pabrik!!! ENte hanya pengangguran!!! Yes, TOTALLY JOBLESS yang dibayarin buat blow Toyota Fault buat ngorek2 web SAMPAH!
ITU karena ENTE PENGECUTTTT, TOYOTAMAN!!! DAN dengan enteng bilang PUSING AMAT ama yang akan MENGANGGURR???????
TOYOTAMAN, ENTE EMANG SAMPAHHHH...!!! SAMPAH MASYARAKAT!!!! SAMA BUSUKNYA DENGAN WEB-WEB SAMPAHH ANDA !!!!
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Re: UPDATE : KASUS KASUS BARU toyota
Kalo saya bingung omongan paling tolol si toyotaman om Vanz. Semuanya tolol sihVanzMatic wrote:Ini adalah ucapan PALING TOLOL dari pasien Rumah Sakit Jiwa yang lolos bisa akses internet bernama TOYOTAMAN yang udah kepepet ngga bisa ngomong apa2 lagi!