2012 Honda CR-V - PART 01

Segala mobil tipe SUV (2WD/4WD). (Cherokee, Terios, Rush, dll).

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Kalau tidak salah ada mobil ktm yang road legal menganut tubular frame...tpi yah itu..mcm bom2 car...cmiiw
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kalo om jombi baca link yang ane kasih tadi, banyak koq yang pake tubular space frame dan tidak seperti bom bom car....
mobil2 itu: All Ferrari before the 360M, Lamborghini Diablo, Jaguar XJ220, Caterham, TVR etc.
dan satu lagi, pajero evolution dan racing lancer juga pake chassis ini... cmiiw...
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ane coba jelasin ya.. benerin kalo salah.
getaran pada roda akan diserap oleh suspensi (per dan shockbreaker). getaran ini diteruskan ke suspension support. biasanya ke chassis mobil. kalo ladder frame, berarti ke chassisnya sehingga getaran akan diredam oleh chassis. selanjutnya baru disalurkan ke body mobil yang selanjutnya akan kita rasakan.
sementara kalo monokok, chassis ini langsung jadi body. makanya getaran dan berisiknya getaran itu akan terasa pada chassis monokok.

untuk mengurangi masalah ini, beberapa produsen mengembangkan sub frame untuk suspensinya. jadi suspension support dipasang pada sub frame instead of directly to chassis. baru dari sub frame ini ke chasis.
biasanya sub frame ini dipasang pada mobil2 mahal om..
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Oh begitu om, thanks pencerahannya master kopat.
Btw, mobil apa aja yg sudah ada "subframe" di chasisnya ...? :frm_tumbleft:
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Welly2008 wrote: Oh begitu om, thanks pencerahannya master kopat.
Btw, mobil apa aja yg sudah ada "subframe" di chasisnya ...? :frm_tumbleft:
wah, ane gak tahu om... kabarnya sih mobil2 mahal om... seperti keluarga lexus kecuali LX, pajero, cherokee...
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Xtrail sudah memakai subframe...walau gak murah jg sih..cmiiw
Bang kopat...apa spaceframe ala audi tuh pengembangan dr tubular?ane pnh liat tipi show di discovery...murcielago lp640 memakai frame karbon dgn konstruksi a la audi..cmiiw
Oiya...race car ane tambahin 1 lg...touareg...tp nih touareg cuman casing doank sama dr yg di sorum:)
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ZombiEE wrote:Xtrail sudah memakai subframe...walau gak murah jg sih..cmiiw
Bang kopat...apa spaceframe ala audi tuh pengembangan dr tubular?ane pnh liat tipi show di discovery...murcielago lp640 memakai frame karbon dgn konstruksi a la audi..cmiiw
Oiya...race car ane tambahin 1 lg...touareg...tp nih touareg cuman casing doank sama dr yg di sorum:)
sepertinya ASF dikembangkan untuk mengatasi kekurangan monokok yang pake besi om... tapi entah lah apakah dikembangkan dari situ atau tidak..
tapi dari konstruksinya, ASF itu seperti space frame... cmiiw..

thanks untuk infonya om zom.. hebat ya xtrail... sudah pake sub frame... harusnya lebih senyap dan minim vibrasi ya? :frm_salut:
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Di acara tsb jg digambarkan betapa kuat sekaligus ringan asf tsb....bkn jual kecap lo, tp ini ada buktinya....sampai jon favreau sutradara ironman geleng2 kepala...uwkwkwkw
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maskopat wrote:- CUT -

untuk mobil2 sport, mereka gak pake monokok dan ladder lagi, malah pake tubular space frame. keuntungannya adalah chassis yang kuat tapi ringan.
seperti ini

- CUT -
Seeeep, om Kopat, om Jembie dll....

Udah terlalu sering dibahaslah ladder dan monocoque ini y..
Soal tubular space frame, nih salah 1 mobil sport terkencang pada masanya yang udah menerapkan chassis advanced ini, 1955 W198 300SL.

Gara2 nerapin chassis ginian, rangkanya ada di samping kiri kanan jok, hingga pintunya 'terpaksa' buka ke atas gini, mlahirkan nickname 'Gullwing', menjadi ciri khasnya dia dan kelak sejarah membuktikan ia menjadi icon Mercedes dan salah sato sportscar terbaik dan legendaris spanjang sjarah otomotif:

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Dari CRV to Gullwing.. :wkkk:
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wah, menarik tuh om...
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Tuh mobil silap2 lbh mahal dr gullwing re-edition skg...
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Nightster Guy wrote:
maskopat wrote:- CUT -

untuk mobil2 sport, mereka gak pake monokok dan ladder lagi, malah pake tubular space frame. keuntungannya adalah chassis yang kuat tapi ringan.
seperti ini

- CUT -
Seeeep, om Kopat, om Jembie dll....

Udah terlalu sering dibahaslah ladder dan monocoque ini y..
Soal tubular space frame, nih salah 1 mobil sport terkencang pada masanya yang udah menerapkan chassis advanced ini, 1955 W198 300SL.

Gara2 nerapin chassis ginian, rangkanya ada di samping kiri kanan jok, hingga pintunya 'terpaksa' buka ke atas gini, mlahirkan nickname 'Gullwing', menjadi ciri khasnya dia dan kelak sejarah membuktikan ia menjadi icon Mercedes dan salah sato sportscar terbaik dan legendaris spanjang sjarah otomotif:

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Dari CRV to Gullwing.. :wkkk:
wow...nice info om Night Guy. :ungg:

Ternyata mobil2 kuno sudah nerapin teknologi chasis yg sudah canggih.
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Master-master telah bertitah.... :big_smoking:
Ane yang ga ngerti apa2 cuman bisa ngangguk2 kepala Aja.. :oops:

Permisi, nubie balik lg ke atas genteng... Memantau.... :ungg:
Anda sudah TEST DRIVE belum?...
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gimana klo CRV 2012 macho kayak gini..
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abrof wrote:gimana klo CRV 2012 macho kayak gini..
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Itu mah Mercedes ML-Klasse om, tapi ga tau ML asli apa tiruan :wkkk:
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AD74YA wrote:Master-master telah bertitah.... :big_smoking:
Ane yang ga ngerti apa2 cuman bisa ngangguk2 kepala Aja.. :oops:

Permisi, nubie balik lg ke atas genteng... Memantau.... :ungg:
wah, Master dedjay merendah mulu...

Ayo ikutan nimbrung om, biar ngobrolnya makin asyik nih... :e-whistle: :e-pray:
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Hansen wrote:
abrof wrote:gimana klo CRV 2012 macho kayak gini..
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Itu mah Mercedes ML-Klasse om, tapi ga tau ML asli apa tiruan :wkkk:
ini ML asli katanya...tapi polisi China takut sama masyarakat...beli mobil mewah buat patroli...akhirnya solusinya mereknya di ganti H tegak plus emblem CRV dibelakang.... :wkkk:
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maskopat wrote:
AD74YA wrote:yang jelas ane rasakan ladder frame lebih nyamaaaann dari monocoque.... Kalau kena jalan rusak, monocoque geter semua... Ladder diredam chassis dulu...Kekurangannya, ladder lebih berat, badan pasti lebih besar, dan keterbatasan untuk speeding...Tapi yang lebih jelas lagi..... Chassis be-spoke jauh lebih nyaman lagi...... Ada yang udah pernah nyoba Land Rover Discovery 3 TGV? Hehehehehe..CMIIW
kalo monokok mau nyaman, suspensi jangan dipasang di chassis... tapi di sub frame... frame yang terpisah dengan chassis... :big_weee:
Ga papa bang... Soalnya ane suka yang geter-geter gimanaaaa gitu..... :upss:
Welly2008 wrote:
AD74YA wrote:Master-master telah bertitah.... :big_smoking:
Ane yang ga ngerti apa2 cuman bisa ngangguk2 kepala Aja.. :oops:

Permisi, nubie balik lg ke atas genteng... Memantau.... :ungg:
wah, Master dedjay merendah mulu...

Ayo ikutan nimbrung om, biar ngobrolnya makin asyik nih... :e-whistle: :e-pray:
Kan ane di genteng bang.. gimana bisa ikut nimbrung :big_weee:

Jadi kesimpulannya untuk entry-class SUV... Xtrail yang paling compromised ya antara kenyamanan dan kekuatan.. :frm_salut:
Anda sudah TEST DRIVE belum?...
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AD74YA wrote:- CUT -

Kan ane di genteng bang.. gimana bisa ikut nimbrung :big_weee:

Jadi kesimpulannya untuk entry-class SUV... Xtrail yang paling compromised ya antara kenyamanan dan kekuatan.. :frm_salut:
Mmmmmm....

IMO, entry level SUV itu keknya si RushTer y.. CMIIW mods DJ.. :big_peace:
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SUV????????? FWD............. :wkkk: :wkkk:
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kalo mau SUV minim yg kelas xtrail crv aja d
dibawahnya itu blon nemu yg enak dikendarai
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ak4ng wrote:SUV????????? FWD............. :wkkk: :wkkk:
Dasar si ak4ng.. :p
Gapapa, SUV versi si Honda lah k4ng.. :big_peace:
Bagi pengexplore sjati SUV, palagi yang kolot kayak saya (baca: kuno, orang jadul gak ngerti kmajuan jaman, etc.) jelas sama skali gak masuk hitungan si CRV ini.. :)
'Coz ni merk memang sama skali gak pernah bikin mobil macho.. Imagenya jauuuuuuuuuuuuh dari sgala yang berbau medan tanah.

'SUV' kota lah k4ng, skedar untuk ngelewatin lubang2 ala jalanan Jakarta tanpa takut mentok. Selera masing2lah.. Scara engineering, Honda (pernah) wan of de bes di dunia.. Saya objective.
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sy si aneh aja...... ngakunya SUV.... tp di ajak ke kebon kopi aja memble...... kalah jauh sama apanja.............
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ak4ng wrote:sy si aneh aja...... ngakunya SUV.... tp di ajak ke kebon kopi aja memble...... kalah jauh sama apanja.............
kalo pake siarpi, ke kebon duit om... bukan kebon kopi.... :big_weee:
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mana ada kebon duit kopat??????? kalo ada ane tanem 30 hektar de.........
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maskopat wrote:
ak4ng wrote:sy si aneh aja...... ngakunya SUV.... tp di ajak ke kebon kopi aja memble...... kalah jauh sama apanja.............
kalo pake siarpi, ke kebon duit om... bukan kebon kopi.... :big_weee:
Napaen k4ng ke kebon kopi?