Suzuki Kizashi...Wow Keren...

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Beda horsepower juga om ama beda berat
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Pasti transmisi pake CVT kalo matik konvensional mana mungkin :big_weee: ..Let"s see lah di indon pake matik yg mana..he2 :big_peace: ups kurang teliti tuh bro bacanya 7.8 second tuh yamg manual 6 speed pantes kenceng amat..
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jalu wrote:wah mesin J24 kizashi bs 0-100 dlm 7.6 sec......kapann yah GV bisa begitu...... :big_weee:
ga beda jauh lah... marmutnya si kresna 0-100 11detik. beda dikiiiiit kan? 1.0 lawan 2.4 ? wkwkwkwk...
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aldy wrote:Pasti transmisi pake CVT kalo matik konvensional mana mungkin :big_weee: ..Let"s see lah di indon pake matik yg mana..he2 :big_peace: ups kurang teliti tuh bro bacanya 7.8 second tuh yamg manual 6 speed pantes kenceng amat..
all variant semua CVT, ga ada yg konvensional... which is available only with the CVT, uses an electronic clutch pack. dan moga2 di indo varian AWDnya masuk.

kalo mau liat2 site nya...
http://www.globalsuzuki.com/kizashi/index.html
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Ane udah liat tuh kijaji di jalanan.....kalo diliat aslinya, bodinya keliatan banget lebih kecil dari kelas accord/camry.

Kayanya suzuki mao posisikan kijaji sebagai "sports sedan", makanya di iklan2 selalu dibandingin sama acura tsx (accord euro) :frm_tumbleft:

Kalo kata car and driver 2.4l I4 ngeluarin 185 hp, 0-60mph (100kpj) sekitar 9.4 detik buat yg AT atau 7.2 detik buat yg MT
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poeticmind wrote:hahahaha! akhirnya baleno mati juga... :big_weee:

bosen banget ama nama baleno...
Imo tampangnya Neo Baleno yg nggak banget, bukan namanya. SX4 bagus, SX4 dipaksa kasi bokong...caur. Baguslah Kizashi ini bakalan masuk...
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IMO...yg namanya baleno...pantatnya rata2 baenol deh..... :upss:
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Kizashi secara dimensi memang tidak besar. Panjang keseluruhan cuma 4650 apa 4700MM, beda 150MM sama camry(lebih panjang) dan 200MM(lebih panjang) accord.

Kizashi di kategorikan sports saloon, gara2 dia kan di test di europe, nurburgring segala. Gw baca2 reviewnya keliatannya mobil ini bakal untuk Driver's car, bukan disetirin sama supir(rata2 pemakai camry or accord kan pke supir).

Semoga aja pricing ampe indo lebih murah dari kompetitor tapi dengan package yang lengkap.
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jalu wrote:IMO...yg namanya baleno...pantatnya rata2 baenol deh..... :upss:
baenol kayak yang di tenda ya kak? :mrgreen:
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naldo wrote:Kizashi secara dimensi memang tidak besar. Panjang keseluruhan cuma 4650 apa 4700MM, beda 150MM sama camry(lebih panjang) dan 200MM(lebih panjang) accord.

Kizashi di kategorikan sports saloon, gara2 dia kan di test di europe, nurburgring segala. Gw baca2 reviewnya keliatannya mobil ini bakal untuk Driver's car, bukan disetirin sama supir(rata2 pemakai camry or accord kan pke supir).

Semoga aja pricing ampe indo lebih murah dari kompetitor tapi dengan package yang lengkap.
tapi masih di atas kelasnya lancer, civic, altis ya om?

mobil2 suzi emang lebih cendrung fun for driver. karakter mesinnya asik untuk diajak ngebut, suspensi sedikit rigid.

hm... bingung nih dengan pengkategorian mobil suzi... koq kizashi menggantikan baleno? padahal beda kelas.
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Aneh, kenapa SIS / SIM ingin masuk ke pasar yang makin kerucut (sempit). Apalagi harus bersaing dengan legend-legend. Sementara dalam benak manusia Indo, Suzuki lebih terkenal karena mesinnya bandel dan tidak ribet, suspensi tahan banting... pokoknya sesuai yang dibutuhkan pasar yang besar.
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€lj€p€ wrote:Aneh, kenapa SIS / SIM ingin masuk ke pasar yang makin kerucut (sempit). Apalagi harus bersaing dengan legend-legend. Sementara dalam benak manusia Indo, Suzuki lebih terkenal karena mesinnya bandel dan tidak ribet, suspensi tahan banting... pokoknya sesuai yang dibutuhkan pasar yang besar.
Iya, aneh juga, tp mungkin saja mereka ingin mengangkat brand image Suzuki, jadi lebih prestige.
Kalau dari sales sih pasti susah bersaing dengan camry dan accord, kecuali dengan harga yang jauh lebih kompetitif. Apalagi dengan dimensi yang lebih kecil. Pengendaraan mungkin lebih sporty, tapi segmen kelas ini di Indo kan lebih mengutamakan kenyamanan dan keleluasaan kabin.
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Ini produk Suzuki yang paling "ultimate" untuk saat ini.

Ini memang bukan dikategorikan untuk sekelas Camry dan Accord, bukan civic/altis.

Mengingat sekarang nama Suzuki ud 100 tahun, makanya mereka mau menaikkan citra brand ke higher level. Gitu om.

Sama mobil ini tidak hanya sporty, tapi bisa buat jalan biasa, comfort juga n juga tidak sempit koq ni mobil.

Bisa dibilang Suzuki Kizashi gedenya seperti Subaru Liberty/Legacy gen 4. Tidak terlalu besar, tapi di kelas camry/accord. Beda 15cm aja untuk panjangnya. Tapi ga tau si dalemnya luas apa ga. Kalau luas dengan dimensi lebih kompak kan malah bagus. Lebar sama dengan Camry.

Baleno berhenti saya ga tau kenapa.

Dimensi Kizashi perbandingan dengan Camry:
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Untuk spec kizashi bisa dilihat disini:
http://www.suzuki.co.jp/car/kizashi/spec/index.html

Perbandingan dengan spec Camry:
http://toyota.jp/camry/spec/spec/index.html

@aldy
Ya gpp donk CVT, mobil eropa juga pke CVT. Lucunya Honda pindah ke konvensional automatic. :big_weee:
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Verdict

Berat , pasti DI KO camry dan accord utk penjualan di Indonesia. Bahkan lawan 2010 NF sonata , (merek yg tidak populer di Indo) juga kalau jadi masuk Indonesia berat .

Gimana sih Suzuki, ngapaain keluarin model baru kalau ga yakin bakal laris.
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kalo pesimis gak bakal laris ya bisa2 gak jualan dooong....hehehehe...... :mrgreen:
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Kalau ga di coba mana tau om laku apa ga?

Kita toh ga tau konsumen akan bagaimana reaksinya. Ya nanti liat aja lah om. Ga tau laku apa ga, ga bisa ngomong skg krn mobilnya belum sampe indonesia.
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FortunerMan wrote:
poeticmind wrote:hahahaha! akhirnya baleno mati juga... :big_weee:

bosen banget ama nama baleno...
Imo tampangnya Neo Baleno yg nggak banget, bukan namanya. SX4 bagus, SX4 dipaksa kasi bokong...caur. Baguslah Kizashi ini bakalan masuk...
itu ciri khas suzuki dari dulu, oom... inget jaman swift 90an? sedan nya juga ada kan? nah yg jadi masalah kadang ada yg dipaksakan, liat swift baru, sedan nya ada juga... edan! dan laku di india. :hoyoooooooh:
baleno 97 pun keluar dalam 3 tipe, sedan 4doors/hatchback 4doors/3doors GT. dpan nya gitu lah, sama... haha
jalu wrote:IMO...yg namanya baleno...pantatnya rata2 baenol deh..... :upss:
pantat paling sempurna ada di NextG. meski badan nya maksa agak MPV. alias tinggi... aneh juga, but diliat2 after modifikasi, well... bolehlah... apalagi di US, NextG (aerio sedan) ini lumayan digemari... iyalah, irit, kenceng dan engine J23. :)
€lj€p€ wrote:Aneh, kenapa SIS / SIM ingin masuk ke pasar yang makin kerucut (sempit). Apalagi harus bersaing dengan legend-legend. Sementara dalam benak manusia Indo, Suzuki lebih terkenal karena mesinnya bandel dan tidak ribet, suspensi tahan banting... pokoknya sesuai yang dibutuhkan pasar yang besar.
seperti kata naldo, sport design... dan mau ga mau lawan nya mazda. bukan camry or accord bongsor...
tapi saya setuju dengan design baru ini, secara seharusnya mobil sedan type semakin compact, bukan bongsor... kalo mau gede, yaaaa pilih MPV or SUV.
cowcool wrote:Verdict

Berat , pasti DI KO camry dan accord utk penjualan di Indonesia. Bahkan lawan 2010 NF sonata , (merek yg tidak populer di Indo) juga kalau jadi masuk Indonesia berat .

Gimana sih Suzuki, ngapaain keluarin model baru kalau ga yakin bakal laris.
hohoho ga juga, justru camry dan accord harus RED alert... coba iseng bro search google, liat polling kizashi versus [cencored]... rata2 (repeat, rata-rata) memilih kizashi. :)
so, yg menentukan adalah tipe kizashi yg akan masuk ke indo... kalo saja varian nya sama dengan di luar, bukan ga mungkin suzuki akan mengambil posisi. seperti masa 1996/1997 baleno menjadi salah satu penjualan tertinggi.
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ah sial... kok gue kesan nya bela suzuki ya... :big_slap:
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yakinlah apa yang dikatakan romy............... :mrgreen:
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jalu wrote:yakinlah apa yang dikatakan romy............... :mrgreen:
jal, udah pernah ketimpa makita belum? :upss:
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udah dong....kan dulu waktu jd kuli pake makita juga...tapi makita gerinda................. :upss: :upss: :upss:
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poeticmind wrote:
jalu wrote:wah mesin J24 kizashi bs 0-100 dlm 7.6 sec......kapann yah GV bisa begitu...... :big_weee:
ga beda jauh lah... marmutnya si kresna 0-100 11detik. beda dikiiiiit kan? 1.0 lawan 2.4 ? wkwkwkwk...
sejak kapan marmut gw jadi 11 detik,, perasaan masi 12an deh :big_slap:

eh pak putik lg dirumah gak?
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tepatnya 11.6 detik kan...dibulatkan jadi 12,hehehehe.......... :mrgreen:
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biar keren, bulatin ke bawah dong...! :big_peace:

@kresna : kesini aja, si brago mau dateng jam 3an. elo udah ujian kan? nyantai jadinya... :mrgreen:
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wkwkwk,, justru br mau ujian,, sbelon ujian harus sungkem dl sama pak putik, biar sukses, wkwkwk
heheh,, kaga ko, masih 12.3 best record (tapi mobil diisi ama gw + Hot2K)
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