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Shock arbsorber merek apa yg pernah anda gunakan ?

Kayaba Ultra
52
23%
Tokico ProDra G
18
8%
KONI merah atau KONI sport kuning
6
3%
BILSTEIN kuning atau silver
40
18%
Monroe Magnum
20
9%
Gabriel
4
2%
Sachs
21
9%
BOGE
11
5%
Old Man EMU
13
6%
Rancho
7
3%
RAW
1
0%
TRD
6
3%
Mugen
1
0%
HOTBITS DT1 atau Basic
7
3%
Armada Extreme
14
6%
OHLINS
3
1%
 
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arfs wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 14:14
alvin23 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 13:45 Kl kayaba saya cuma nanya satu, keras ga? Excel G itu masya Allah kl dibanding shock ori, ampun dah.
Ini new sr ngjar comfort atau another hard shock from kayaba? Wkwk, kl keras mending beli tokico atau sachs
Entah dah, review nya campur2 ttg Excel G. Ada yg bilang puas ada yg bilang kekerasan haha. :big_slap:
Kalau baca keterangan nya di web Excel G itu "Designed to help restore OE performance for normal driving conditions" so mestinya mirip2 karakter asli mobil nya.. :big_childish:
wkwwk padahal ampir semua orang setuju kayaba cenderung lebih kueras dibanding bawaan. Kl di mobil jerman sih, bilstein emang mirip, mungkin 80-90% mirip.
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Om sesepuh mau tanya , kalau mau cari bilstein silver dimana ya ?
Trima.kasih sebelum.nya
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alvin23 wrote:
wkwwk padahal ampir semua orang setuju kayaba cenderung lebih kueras dibanding bawaan. Kl di mobil jerman sih, bilstein emang mirip, mungkin 80-90% mirip.
Barusan baca di catalog komplit KYB 2017 liat ini:
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Sepertinya mmg benar Excel G lebih keras dikit dibanding OE nya... [emoji55]
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coilover dah paling enak si
yg bisa stel empuk ke keras
apalagi kalo yg bermasalah mnobilnya kekerasan bantingannya
pake coilover diempukin
kaya grandis ane pakein gab coilover, seting klik 10 udah lebih empuk ketimbang bawaan standartnya
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Habis ganti shock belakang sx4 lawas pake KYB Excel G Jepang.

Kondisi shock belakang asli nya sudah lemah (mobil 2011 akhir, odo menunjukan 67rb km)

First impression habis ganti: pasti lebih keras, hehe karena shock asli nya kan ud lemah jadinya keempukan... Tapi menurut ogut habis diganti, karakter bantingan shock belakang nya mengingatkan ane kyk waktu sx4 ane masih baru dulu... Alias ane bisa blg kurang lebih sama lah bantingan nya sama O. E.

Td coba zigzag rasanya pantat mobil nya ud gk ngebuang...

P. S. Shock asli nya juga buatan KYB walaupun kode part nya pakai kode angka Suzuki dan di Excel G pakai angka kode KYB sendiri.
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pengalaman make shock gas di beberapa mobil ane, kayanya cocok utk jd shock belakang deh... dl di GL, XR, ipah smua nya enak pake kyb excel g atau ultra (gas smua ini kyb) pas dijadiin shock blakang.. bantingan pas, ngangkat barbel ayoo, manuver sinting jg masi tolerable... kcuali di apanja, amit2 pake gas di shock blakang, gebrak2 nya makin parah..

nah kl shock depan, haram dehh pake shock gas kl buat ane, entah knapa jadi nya malah ga enak banget.. berasa ga pake shock
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Terakhir ganti shock arbsorber pake sachs di kombo ma eibach pro kit di A3
Dampingnya enak, handlingnya membaik.
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Abis ganti shock tadi siang di ipah ane...
Sebelumnya depan pakai ori toyota dan belakang pakai OME entah apa typenya...
Shock depan udah rembes total olinya...belakang masih bagus kayanya...
Ganti pake profender yang bisa diatur kekerasannya sampe 4 klik...

Sekarang disetel di 3 (keras), tapi menurut saya dan istri masih keras settingan yg lama...yg lama shock std + underbrace, underbrace depannya saya lepas sekalian...kalo ada yg minat pm yah..(eh, malah ngiklan)

Masih dipake deket2 dan masih baru banget...jadi belum kentara bener...yg pasti sih lebih nyaman ya meskipun sudah disetel ke 3..


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evolution21 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:42 coilover dah paling enak si
yg bisa stel empuk ke keras
apalagi kalo yg bermasalah mnobilnya kekerasan bantingannya
pake coilover diempukin
kaya grandis ane pakein gab coilover, seting klik 10 udah lebih empuk ketimbang bawaan standartnya
Ya kalo koiloper sih lain om. Wkwkwkwk.

Sepasang per sama shock yang sudah diciptakan untuk saling bersama, apalg adjustable. Hehehe.
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Barusan ganti shock belakang innova gnki sama Monroe Adventure.

Lebih firm dr ori nya tp berasa jadi anteng belakang nya. Lewatin polisi tidur juga masih acceptable. Body roll jg berkurang jauh.

Depan lagi order Amada Xtreme yg comfort (gara2 enak rasanya habis coba ipah nya mbah bebong :big_slap: ).
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Saya pernah coba Kayaba Kuning (GNKI).
Amada Extreme (MuX).
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Apakah ada yg pernah pakai pedders? Katanya foam... Apa ya perbedaannya dgn shock isi gas?
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kayaba.tokico.monroe kuning.sach.bilstin hitam.silver.kuning...

saking fans sama bilstin..sampe beli versi kuning hanya tuk di simpan...
kalo mau jual malah bisa untung dari harga baru...sempat ada yang mau bayarin...
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Akhirnya kmrn terpasang juga. Amada Xtreme tipe comfort di depan nya. Dikombinasi kan sama Monroe Adventure sekarang bantingan kurang lebih masih sama spt shock OEM nya (yg blkg sedikit lebih firm) namun body roll nya jauh lebih berkurang. Di jalan bergelombang dan berlubang pun juga berasa lebih anteng...

Perbandingan sama shock OEM nya (buatan KYB):
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*sumber dr seller nya
** bukan seller shockbreaker :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Ikut"an,... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:


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abis ganti tokico di ipah 2kd pre-fl.
shock lama udah ngondoy. berasanya enak banget skrg pas dari segi kekerasan dan driveability.
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b8099ok wrote:Ikut"an,... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:


Donpip donpip :big_love:
Mesti nya gk usah nyoba mobil lo minggu lalu... [emoji85][emoji85][emoji85][emoji85]

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baru 2 hari lalu di tawar kawan yang punya e36 M3... :big_biglaugh:
tetep gak mau jual...taunan cari gak ada..pesan sama sumber berkat..barang rare sisa 1 dari brasil..

puas bisa punya akhirnya..walo gak dipake..keras amit ky gerobak n ceper
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kemarin abis beresin kaki2 ops 2012. ganti shock pake KYB excell-G thai depan dan belakang, DC 2,1jt berikut ongkos di S&D.
so far baru jalan 20 km, dan kerasa bedanya, engga ngayu/ nunduk berlebihan ke depan ketika ngerem, lewatin jalan buduk mobil jadi lebih diem engga goyang kanan kiri.

lewatin tol, lari 100-120 dan tikungan 80km juga terasa lebih stabil tapi belum se-significant improvement ketika nge-rem dan lewatin jalan rusak.
rebound terasa mirip2 dengan shock std.

will review again at 500km.
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pakein coilover tein
plus electronic adaptiv nya, enaknya stel2 keras empuk ga repot bongkar2 mobil
n canggih juga ni kalo lg akselerasi shock blakang otomatis ngerasin, sebaliknya ngerem shock depan ngerasin
cth nya ada ni ane comot video di yutub https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LqG_eUICAg

stel di 7 - 12 klik berasa nyaman sekali, cuman kalo di tol mesti di 16-20 klik agar stabilnya pas
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Lumayan banyak sih..
Gabriel Adjustable
Koni Adjustable
Bilstein
Tokico
Monroe Gas-matic

semuanya di trooper..
Saat ini kembali ke OEMnya Tokico..
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sukerdan02 wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:22 Lumayan banyak sih..
Gabriel Adjustable
Koni Adjustable
Bilstein
Tokico
Monroe Gas-matic

semuanya di trooper..
Saat ini kembali ke OEMnya Tokico..
Troopernya pake bilstein yg seri apa om? Per pakai apa? Saya mo nyontek hehehe... Enak kah?
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ngalih wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:58
sukerdan02 wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:22 Lumayan banyak sih..
Gabriel Adjustable
Koni Adjustable
Bilstein
Tokico
Monroe Gas-matic

semuanya di trooper..
Saat ini kembali ke OEMnya Tokico..
Troopernya pake bilstein yg seri apa om? Per pakai apa? Saya mo nyontek hehehe... Enak kah?
Waduh apa ya serinya, udah lumayan lama dilepas krn udh lemah, sempat pakai selama sekitar 8 tahun.. Yang jelas bukan yg heavyduty, karena kalo yg havyduty ada coilover tambahannya di shock untuk yg belakang.. Kalau per pakai bawaan asli mobil.. IMHO, untuk harian enak, ayunan lembut tapi ga limbung, tp untuk offroad medium agak terlalu lembek.. Daily driven sih enak bgt
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evolution21 wrote:pakein coilover tein
plus electronic adaptiv nya, enaknya stel2 keras empuk ga repot bongkar2 mobil
n canggih juga ni kalo lg akselerasi shock blakang otomatis ngerasin, sebaliknya ngerem shock depan ngerasin
cth nya ada ni ane comot video di yutub https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LqG_eUICAg

stel di 7 - 12 klik berasa nyaman sekali, cuman kalo di tol mesti di 16-20 klik agar stabilnya pas
coilover ini paketnya shok + coil ya oom ? atau coil doang ?

electronic adaptivenya itu kayak gimana wujudnya oom?
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Bilstein beli dimana ya di jakarta? Toko yang terpercaya. Mengurangi resiko kw atau rekondisi