Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
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Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
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Mesin ini awalnya adalah hasil pengembangan Mitsubishi dan Mercedes (Daimler Chrysler), dulunya dibuat di MDC Power Gmbh - Germany dan sekarang dibuat juga di pabrik SHENYANG AEROSPACE MITSUBISHI - China
http://www.same.com.cn/en/
http://www.same.com.cn/en/en/a/chanpinz ... 08/25.html
Bahkan Shenyang Aerospace Mitsu juga memproduksi versi Turbo-nya
http://www.same.com.cn/en/en/a/chanpinz ... 08/26.html
Berikut deretan mobil2 yg menggunakan mesin Mitsu 4A91 - 1500 cc MIVEC (dari Wiki) :
2004 Mitsubishi Colt
2007 Mitsubishi Lancer
2004-2006 Smart Forfour
2011 Haima 2
2011 Brilliance fsv
2014 Soueast v3
2016 Yema T70 SUV
2017 Soueast DX3
Berikut service manual utk mesin 4A9 :
http://evoscan.com/manuals/ColtRalliart ... 00-11A.pdf
http://evoscan.com/manuals/ColtRalliart ... 01-11B.pdf
Terlihat di sini mekanisme valve train menggunakan solid tappet, maka jika sampai hari ini masih sama, utk pelumas disarankan API SL atau SN - 5W30
Mesin ini awalnya adalah hasil pengembangan Mitsubishi dan Mercedes (Daimler Chrysler), dulunya dibuat di MDC Power Gmbh - Germany dan sekarang dibuat juga di pabrik SHENYANG AEROSPACE MITSUBISHI - China
http://www.same.com.cn/en/
http://www.same.com.cn/en/en/a/chanpinz ... 08/25.html
Bahkan Shenyang Aerospace Mitsu juga memproduksi versi Turbo-nya
http://www.same.com.cn/en/en/a/chanpinz ... 08/26.html
Berikut deretan mobil2 yg menggunakan mesin Mitsu 4A91 - 1500 cc MIVEC (dari Wiki) :
2004 Mitsubishi Colt
2007 Mitsubishi Lancer
2004-2006 Smart Forfour
2011 Haima 2
2011 Brilliance fsv
2014 Soueast v3
2016 Yema T70 SUV
2017 Soueast DX3
Berikut service manual utk mesin 4A9 :
http://evoscan.com/manuals/ColtRalliart ... 00-11A.pdf
http://evoscan.com/manuals/ColtRalliart ... 01-11B.pdf
Terlihat di sini mekanisme valve train menggunakan solid tappet, maka jika sampai hari ini masih sama, utk pelumas disarankan API SL atau SN - 5W30
Last edited by Turboman on 25 Jul 2017, 01:15, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
prediksi ane horsepower nya di kisaran 109-110hp. Dari yang asli nya 120ps, pasti di detune dikit buat nyesuain bensin di indonesia.
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
Ini mesinnya mpv baru nya mitsubishi?
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
Tapi di wiki kok nemunya yg ini ya?
4A91
Engine type — DOHC 16v, ECI multiple
Displacement — 1499 cc
Bore pitch — 83.0 mm
Bore — 75.0 mm
Stroke — 84.8 mm
Compression ratio — 10.5:1
Power — 118 hp (88 kW; 120 PS) at 6000 rpm
Torque — 145 N·m (107 lb·ft) at 4000 rpm
Apakah sama saja? Maaf ane awam soal mesin...
Soal mesin buat mpv, yg dateng ke acara kemarin kan sempat lihat tuh tulisan dan gambar di bawah mobil yang ada di setiap sisi, nah salah satunya di bagian depan ada foto mesinnya, bagi yg ngerti mesin taulah mesin yg dipakai buat MPV barunya
4A91
Engine type — DOHC 16v, ECI multiple
Displacement — 1499 cc
Bore pitch — 83.0 mm
Bore — 75.0 mm
Stroke — 84.8 mm
Compression ratio — 10.5:1
Power — 118 hp (88 kW; 120 PS) at 6000 rpm
Torque — 145 N·m (107 lb·ft) at 4000 rpm
Apakah sama saja? Maaf ane awam soal mesin...
Soal mesin buat mpv, yg dateng ke acara kemarin kan sempat lihat tuh tulisan dan gambar di bawah mobil yang ada di setiap sisi, nah salah satunya di bagian depan ada foto mesinnya, bagi yg ngerti mesin taulah mesin yg dipakai buat MPV barunya
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
Expander kemaren dikunci kan.......gimana buka kap mesin ?
ha ha
ha ha
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
kalo bener pake 4A91, setelah ane liat2 service manualnya....
mesinnya kurang menarik.
single Continuous VVT.... intake only. sementara lawannya udah pake Dual VVT-i
konfigurasi exhaust 4-1... kecekek di catalyst. solusi, bikin knalpot custom 4-2-1.
EGR... hmm... palingan disini itu benda ditiadakan dari pabrik.
feature n spec-wise, mesin ini agak mirip K14B...
akankah low torque-nya payah kayak Ertiga?
jika iya, maka manual is the tranny to go. forget that antiquated 4AT.
ane nyari dyno sheetnya blom nemu.
mesinnya kurang menarik.
single Continuous VVT.... intake only. sementara lawannya udah pake Dual VVT-i
konfigurasi exhaust 4-1... kecekek di catalyst. solusi, bikin knalpot custom 4-2-1.
EGR... hmm... palingan disini itu benda ditiadakan dari pabrik.
feature n spec-wise, mesin ini agak mirip K14B...
akankah low torque-nya payah kayak Ertiga?
jika iya, maka manual is the tranny to go. forget that antiquated 4AT.
ane nyari dyno sheetnya blom nemu.
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
Pling ntar fenboyny bilang....spekny jgn di liat Ni mitsu punya dna rally... Di jamin kenceng.....
Macam miras, elsape, tisos dll......
Hahhaha
Macam miras, elsape, tisos dll......
Hahhaha
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
wartawan yg sudah td sih katanya tarikan bawah nya biasa alias lemot, tengah ke atas yg bertenagaracho wrote: ↑25 Jul 2017, 09:12 kalo bener pake 4A91, setelah ane liat2 service manualnya....
mesinnya kurang menarik.
single Continuous VVT.... intake only. sementara lawannya udah pake Dual VVT-i
konfigurasi exhaust 4-1... kecekek di catalyst. solusi, bikin knalpot custom 4-2-1.
EGR... hmm... palingan disini itu benda ditiadakan dari pabrik.
feature n spec-wise, mesin ini agak mirip K14B...
akankah low torque-nya payah kayak Ertiga?
jika iya, maka manual is the tranny to go. forget that antiquated 4AT.
ane nyari dyno sheetnya blom nemu.
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
4A91 skg kode ada yang 4A915
apakah 4A915 ini dual VVT ?
mesin juga buatan SAME, krn pengguna 4A9 series ini di China sgt besar
apakah 4A915 ini dual VVT ?
mesin juga buatan SAME, krn pengguna 4A9 series ini di China sgt besar
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
Mivecnya seri 3A9 dan 4A9 sie single camphasing aja haha
Sayangny mitsu, kurang kreatif dlm ngasih nama. Mau dia single atau dual camphasing, atau malah jenis cam switching atau mix of both, semuanya di namain mivec
Jd krng jelas.
Belakangan ahon ikut2an haha
Karakter sodara 3cyld nya sih memang sangat lemot lowrevnya. Tp highrevny berani d adu
Dan sayangnya, langganan knocking sekalipun pke ron 92. Di buku manual rec fuel ron 95 min ron 91
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
udah confirm yah mesin si Xpander 4A91 ?
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
Om Turbo bisa lihat sendiri mesinnya
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
halah
foto di brosur XM dari sisi intake
foto di web SAME dr sisi exhaust
Tapi mesin Mitsu yg 1500 cc yg sampe skg diproduksi ya 4A9 family ini
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nemu nih foto yg pas
Passsss bangettt
http://www.same.com.cn/en/en/a/chanpinz ... aochanpin/
SAME ini pabriknya di Liaoning - Harbin.....daerah dinginnn.....yg sering ada festival bangunan2 / istana2 dr Es
suhu udara dingin ini menjadi keuntungan tersendiri pada saat proses perakitan mesin.....
From Liaoning to Cikarang.......
Passsss bangettt
http://www.same.com.cn/en/en/a/chanpinz ... aochanpin/
SAME ini pabriknya di Liaoning - Harbin.....daerah dinginnn.....yg sering ada festival bangunan2 / istana2 dr Es
suhu udara dingin ini menjadi keuntungan tersendiri pada saat proses perakitan mesin.....
From Liaoning to Cikarang.......
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
Kayaknya udah fix tenaga gak sebesar mobiloyo
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
Semoga dengan tenaga yang disunat mesin bs lebih awet deh
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
utk lari kenceng ga selalu ngandelin faktor tenaga aja sih. 100hp utk mobil keluarga udah lmyn lah... masa mau diajak lari 200km/jam sih? paling dibuat mentok 180km/jam kyk miras
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
kalo people mover car biasa mapping mesin mengutamakan Torsi yg lebih gemuk di RPM rendah
juga pertimbangan BBM RON rendah
juga pertimbangan BBM RON rendah
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
harusnya sih gitu ya... tapi di garasi ane ada people mover mitsu yg pake mesin eclipse.
kalo ngutamain torsi, kenapa ngga pake exhaust 4-2-1 ya?
cost considerations?
tapi entahlah, i'm not engineer...
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
mahalracho wrote:harusnya sih gitu ya... tapi di garasi ane ada people mover mitsu yg pake mesin eclipse.
kalo ngutamain torsi, kenapa ngga pake exhaust 4-2-1 ya?
cost considerations?
tapi entahlah, i'm not engineer...
yg ane maksud maen di map ECU nya
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
Up.. setelah test drive yang matik terasa lemot di putaran bawah nih.. lebih enakan duo kaleng apanja.. apakah karakter lemot ini bisa sembuh hanya dengan Reset Ecu saja tanpa modifikasi fisik ?
Apa ada solusi yang lain ?
Apa ada solusi yang lain ?
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
Saya juga penasaran nih.. di mbah sat, di remap ecunya bisa ga ya?
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Re: Mengenal mesin Mitsu 1500 cc MIVEC - 4A91 engine (From MDC Germany to Shenyang Aerospace - China)
Xpander bisa di remap ecu nya? Ada yg punya infonya? Oli yang cocok 5w30 yah yah om turbo? Tq b4.
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coba diliat rasio gigi nyaKnalpot wrote:Up.. setelah test drive yang matik terasa lemot di putaran bawah nih.. lebih enakan duo kaleng apanja.. apakah karakter lemot ini bisa sembuh hanya dengan Reset Ecu saja tanpa modifikasi fisik ?
Apa ada solusi yang lain ?
biasanya 4 AT tu rasio gigi panjang2 alhasil kalo torsi pas2-an ya tarikan awalnya gitu deh
kecuali pabrikan set FG nya jauh rasio-nya, tapi top speed jadi memble dan lari 100 RPM tinggi
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