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Jenson wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:41
pcx wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 4:35
Jenson wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 15:53

Ini engine apakah robust dicekokin bensin busuk? Kalo 4A91 kan ud teruji wkwkkw

Maklum, kelas MPV begini rasanya user d konoha almost likely bakal cekokin bensin busuk. Wong kmrn naik Pajero baru gocar lux aj abangnya cerita diisi solbus goceng :mky_02:
Indeed Um@Jenson
Salah satu yg menyebabkan sales medium SUV monokok drop ya karena medium SUV ladder frame bisa pake solbus :shrug: :e-doh:
Muga2 robust aza DST dicekokin pertalite :mrgreen: :e-pray:
Lagian 4B40 kan development terbaru 4A91 untuk menggantikan 4B10 yg NA

Jelas 4A91 boyot di esblender yg low MPV 7 sester lha wong peruntukanna untuk Colt city car 4 seater :e-doh:

Lha Esblender memang seharusna minimal pake enjin 1.8 tapi syulit kalo di +62 yg pajakna lebih bersahabat pada enjin 1.5.

Lihat nasib nissan GL 1.8 dan HRV 1.8 akhirna juga discontinue semua :shrug:

4A91 di DST yg sizena lebih gambot lagi bisa2 untuk nanjak di parkiran mall aza melorot terus boro2 di pegunungan wkwkwk

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Just food for thoughts, itu Xpander kenapa ga dibikin varian diesel y ama mitsubishi? Apa mgkin seribet itu ya bikin varian diesel dr bensin. Kebayang kalo bsa dicekok mesin L300 aj, gausa kenceng deh, asal bsa jalan pke solbus, pasti tambah laris wkwkwkk
kasih 4d56 common rail vgt intercooled, matic transmission




beuh

kijang2 auto menangis :big_biglaugh:
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linschneider wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:28
Jenson wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:41
pcx wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 4:35 Salah satu yg menyebabkan sales medium SUV monokok drop ya karena medium SUV ladder frame bisa pake solbus :shrug: :e-doh:
..cut..
Jelas 4A91 boyot di esblender yg low MPV 7 sester lha wong peruntukanna untuk Colt city car 4 seater :e-doh:
Lha Esblender memang seharusna minimal pake enjin 1.8 tapi syulit kalo di +62 yg pajakna lebih bersahabat pada enjin 1.5.

..cut..
4A91 di DST yg sizena lebih gambot lagi bisa2 untuk nanjak di parkiran mall aza melorot terus boro2 di pegunungan wkwkwk
:drinking:
Just food for thoughts, itu Xpander kenapa ga dibikin varian diesel y ama mitsubishi? Apa mgkin seribet itu ya bikin varian diesel dr bensin. Kebayang kalo bsa dicekok mesin L300 aj, gausa kenceng deh, asal bsa jalan pke solbus, pasti tambah laris wkwkwkk
kasih 4d56 common rail vgt intercooled, matic transmission
beuh

kijang2 auto menangis :big_biglaugh:
rawan makan pangsanya Pahero olah-raga om.
tapi potensi sebagai lawan tanding kijang, keinget dahulu ada KUDA.

misal DST ini keluar dengan engine :
- Turbo bensin
- Turbo Diesel
- Hybrid bensin
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wah, bakal jadi lawan tangguh Forti dan Kijang
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linschneider wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:28 kasih 4d56 common rail vgt intercooled, matic transmission




beuh

kijang2 auto menangis :big_biglaugh:
Ga akan sampai menangis sih, terganggu mungkin iya. 4d56 ini jg ga sebagus yg dibayangkan soalnya gampang overheat dari L300 sampai pajero sport sama aja. Better pakai 4n1 series.
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gadjahalphien wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:33
linschneider wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:28
Jenson wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:41
Just food for thoughts, itu Xpander kenapa ga dibikin varian diesel y ama mitsubishi? Apa mgkin seribet itu ya bikin varian diesel dr bensin. Kebayang kalo bsa dicekok mesin L300 aj, gausa kenceng deh, asal bsa jalan pke solbus, pasti tambah laris wkwkwkk
kasih 4d56 common rail vgt intercooled, matic transmission
beuh

kijang2 auto menangis :big_biglaugh:
rawan makan pangsanya Pahero olah-raga om.
tapi potensi sebagai lawan tanding kijang, keinget dahulu ada KUDA.

misal DST ini keluar dengan engine :
- Turbo bensin
- Turbo Diesel
- Hybrid bensin
lengkap

wah, bakal jadi lawan tangguh Forti dan Kijang
pajero uda segmen 4x4 la. kuda kan brand mpv ladder rwd, reminiscent jaman kebon binatang dulu; kijang kuda panther. tp klo kuda fantasy turbodiesel monokok rwd multilink suspensen ga nolak sih, apalagi klo kepaka 3 :mky_04:
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gwsecretc wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 13:49
linschneider wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:28 kasih 4d56 common rail vgt intercooled, matic transmission




beuh

kijang2 auto menangis :big_biglaugh:
Ga akan sampai menangis sih, terganggu mungkin iya. 4d56 ini jg ga sebagus yg dibayangkan soalnya gampang overheat dari L300 sampai pajero sport sama aja. Better pakai 4n1 series.
Oh ya, baru tau om.

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Jenson wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:41
pcx wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 4:35
Jenson wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 15:53

Ini engine apakah robust dicekokin bensin busuk? Kalo 4A91 kan ud teruji wkwkkw

Maklum, kelas MPV begini rasanya user d konoha almost likely bakal cekokin bensin busuk. Wong kmrn naik Pajero baru gocar lux aj abangnya cerita diisi solbus goceng :mky_02:
Indeed Um@Jenson
Salah satu yg menyebabkan sales medium SUV monokok drop ya karena medium SUV ladder frame bisa pake solbus :shrug: :e-doh:
Muga2 robust aza DST dicekokin pertalite :mrgreen: :e-pray:
Lagian 4B40 kan development terbaru 4A91 untuk menggantikan 4B10 yg NA

Jelas 4A91 boyot di esblender yg low MPV 7 sester lha wong peruntukanna untuk Colt city car 4 seater :e-doh:

Lha Esblender memang seharusna minimal pake enjin 1.8 tapi syulit kalo di +62 yg pajakna lebih bersahabat pada enjin 1.5.

Lihat nasib nissan GL 1.8 dan HRV 1.8 akhirna juga discontinue semua :shrug:

4A91 di DST yg sizena lebih gambot lagi bisa2 untuk nanjak di parkiran mall aza melorot terus boro2 di pegunungan wkwkwk

:drinking:
Just food for thoughts, itu Xpander kenapa ga dibikin varian diesel y ama mitsubishi? Apa mgkin seribet itu ya bikin varian diesel dr bensin. Kebayang kalo bsa dicekok mesin L300 aj, gausa kenceng deh, asal bsa jalan pke solbus, pasti tambah laris wkwkwkk
Mungkin karena mesin L300 kan 2.5 D kalo Esblender pake itu berarti positioningna bukan small MPV lagi Um :e-think:

Kalo pake 4D56 brarti esblender lebih tepat masuk kategori medium MPV yg dulu pernah ada di Kuda bensin dan diesel sejajar dengan Kijang dan Panther.

Pengen banget MMKSI test pasar masukin 4N13 di DST ini :angel:
cuman ini 4N13 pasti ga kuat pake solbus kayak 4D56 yg udah legendaris :e-doh:
palage 4N13 untuk mobil triple diamonds di Europe
jiper juga ngeliat nasib low MPV mini diesel chevy Spin dan ertiga diesel

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pcx wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 15:22 Mungkin karena mesin L300 kan 2.5 D kalo Esblender pake itu berarti positioningna bukan small MPV lagi Um :e-think:

Kalo pake 4D56 brarti esblender lebih tepat masuk kategori medium MPV yg dulu pernah ada di Kuda bensin dan diesel sejajar dengan Kijang dan Panther.

Pengen banget MMKSI test pasar masukin 4N13 di DST ini :angel:
cuman ini 4N13 pasti ga kuat pake solbus kayak 4D56 yg udah legendaris :e-doh:
palage 4N13 untuk mobil triple diamonds di Europe
jiper juga ngeliat nasib low MPV mini diesel chevy Spin dan ertiga diesel

:drinking:
Agak ragu deh om bisa kuat mesin nya kalo masuk sini. Walaupun 4n1 series bagus, kayaknya yg lumayan kuat cuma 4n15. Itu L300 4n14 di sini aja banyak kasus jebol blok mesinnya padahal kondisi std.
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pcx wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 15:22
Jenson wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:41
pcx wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 4:35

Indeed Um@Jenson
Salah satu yg menyebabkan sales medium SUV monokok drop ya karena medium SUV ladder frame bisa pake solbus :shrug: :e-doh:
Muga2 robust aza DST dicekokin pertalite :mrgreen: :e-pray:
Lagian 4B40 kan development terbaru 4A91 untuk menggantikan 4B10 yg NA

Jelas 4A91 boyot di esblender yg low MPV 7 sester lha wong peruntukanna untuk Colt city car 4 seater :e-doh:

Lha Esblender memang seharusna minimal pake enjin 1.8 tapi syulit kalo di +62 yg pajakna lebih bersahabat pada enjin 1.5.

Lihat nasib nissan GL 1.8 dan HRV 1.8 akhirna juga discontinue semua :shrug:

4A91 di DST yg sizena lebih gambot lagi bisa2 untuk nanjak di parkiran mall aza melorot terus boro2 di pegunungan wkwkwk

:drinking:
Just food for thoughts, itu Xpander kenapa ga dibikin varian diesel y ama mitsubishi? Apa mgkin seribet itu ya bikin varian diesel dr bensin. Kebayang kalo bsa dicekok mesin L300 aj, gausa kenceng deh, asal bsa jalan pke solbus, pasti tambah laris wkwkwkk
Mungkin karena mesin L300 kan 2.5 D kalo Esblender pake itu berarti positioningna bukan small MPV lagi Um :e-think:

Kalo pake 4D56 brarti esblender lebih tepat masuk kategori medium MPV yg dulu pernah ada di Kuda bensin dan diesel sejajar dengan Kijang dan Panther.

Pengen banget MMKSI test pasar masukin 4N13 di DST ini :angel:
cuman ini 4N13 pasti ga kuat pake solbus kayak 4D56 yg udah legendaris :e-doh:
palage 4N13 untuk mobil triple diamonds di Europe
jiper juga ngeliat nasib low MPV mini diesel chevy Spin dan ertiga diesel

:drinking:
mungkin kalo mitsu coba kasi diesel buat mbl ini lebih mudah diterima ya. karena image mitsu dieselnya sudah lama dan oke lah.

kalo yg flop macem ertiga diesel, org taunya suzuki dr dulu mobil bensin, kalo chevy emg brand non jepang ya ga kuat

cm rasanya ga akan ada versi diesel
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gwsecretc wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 16:20
pcx wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 15:22 Mungkin karena mesin L300 kan 2.5 D kalo Esblender pake itu berarti positioningna bukan small MPV lagi Um :e-think:

Kalo pake 4D56 brarti esblender lebih tepat masuk kategori medium MPV yg dulu pernah ada di Kuda bensin dan diesel sejajar dengan Kijang dan Panther.

Pengen banget MMKSI test pasar masukin 4N13 di DST ini :angel:
cuman ini 4N13 pasti ga kuat pake solbus kayak 4D56 yg udah legendaris :e-doh:
palage 4N13 untuk mobil triple diamonds di Europe
jiper juga ngeliat nasib low MPV mini diesel chevy Spin dan ertiga diesel

:drinking:
Agak ragu deh om bisa kuat mesin nya kalo masuk sini. Walaupun 4n1 series bagus, kayaknya yg lumayan kuat cuma 4n15. Itu L300 4n14 di sini aja banyak kasus jebol blok mesinnya padahal kondisi std.
Memang agar kuat mestina ada sinergi penyesuaian dulu enjin saat di jepun dengan bbm +62 :mrgreen:

Palage line up mesin 4N1 kan lebih baru dari 4D56 yg sayangna kok ga dilakukan itu ya :e-think:

Seperti pada mesin mazdut CX5 awal masuk di +62 dikurangi kompresi rasiona oleh mazda Jepun sehingga lebih cocok dgn bensin +62 :off_good_job:

Apalagi brand triple diamonds yg punya pabrik CKD +62 jika ada niat mestina lebih mudah lagi ya Um

Indeed sekarang kesulitanna karena era boil listrik sehingga desel udah digantikan oleh hybrid yang udah terlihat pada reborn ke zenix

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farizfsa wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:20
pcx wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 15:22
Jenson wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:41

Just food for thoughts, itu Xpander kenapa ga dibikin varian diesel y ama mitsubishi? Apa mgkin seribet itu ya bikin varian diesel dr bensin. Kebayang kalo bsa dicekok mesin L300 aj, gausa kenceng deh, asal bsa jalan pke solbus, pasti tambah laris wkwkwkk
Mungkin karena mesin L300 kan 2.5 D kalo Esblender pake itu berarti positioningna bukan small MPV lagi Um :e-think:

Kalo pake 4D56 brarti esblender lebih tepat masuk kategori medium MPV yg dulu pernah ada di Kuda bensin dan diesel sejajar dengan Kijang dan Panther.

Pengen banget MMKSI test pasar masukin 4N13 di DST ini :angel:
cuman ini 4N13 pasti ga kuat pake solbus kayak 4D56 yg udah legendaris :e-doh:
palage 4N13 untuk mobil triple diamonds di Europe
jiper juga ngeliat nasib low MPV mini diesel chevy Spin dan ertiga diesel

:drinking:
mungkin kalo mitsu coba kasi diesel buat mbl ini lebih mudah diterima ya. karena image mitsu dieselnya sudah lama dan oke lah.

kalo yg flop macem ertiga diesel, org taunya suzuki dr dulu mobil bensin, kalo chevy emg brand non jepang ya ga kuat

cm rasanya ga akan ada versi diesel
Couldn't agree more Um

Memang kemungkinan kecil utk mesin diesel mitsu selaen 4D56 dan 4N15 masuk di +62 :shrug:

Betull image suzuki dan Chevy maen diesel jelas dibawah Mitsubishi
Triple diamonds jelas dah expert abis masuk ranah mesin diesel palage jika platform ladder frame :frm_salut:

Lha wong produsen terbesar bis truk mesin diesel dari dulu dengan FUSO yg sayangna karena krisis 2004 jadi diakuisisi daimler Jerman :shrug: :e-snooty:

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pcx wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:41
Couldn't agree more Um

Memang kemungkinan kecil utk mesin diesel mitsu selaen 4D56 dan 4N15 masuk di +62 :shrug:

Betull image suzuki dan Chevy maen diesel jelas dibawah Mitsubishi
Triple diamonds jelas dah expert abis masuk ranah mesin diesel palage jika platform ladder frame :frm_salut:

Lha wong produsen terbesar bis truk mesin diesel dari dulu dengan FUSO yg sayangna karena krisis 2004 jadi diakuisisi daimler Jerman :shrug: :e-snooty:

:drinking:
Soal perdieselan jadi inget, kebetulan kami pernah pake beberapa unit light truck dari Mitsubishi juga, anehnya kami dapet Mitsu mesinnya apes mulu...
kalo diurut reliability mesin truk yang pernah kita pake :
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sudah launching, pake mesin turbo 4B40 all variant, gc 244mm, tinggi sekali.

dimensi tinggi lebar hampir se zenik based on brochure. cuma lebih pendek 5-10cm kayanya scara panjang.

163hp 250nm, diluar sih di mesin eclipse remap stage 1 udh dpt mepet 200hp torsi 330nm. parts performance tuning nya lumayan ada jg nih liat2 :big_biglaugh:

tinggal ada yg pinter tuning cvt nya aja, bisa kenceng ini
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Screenshot_20250717_145004.jpg
Tinggal set harga jgn salah ajah.
Udh mantep ini 🔥

Pk mesinnya eclipse cross
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Price is the key... Mau set harga mepet zenix ya bakal mediocre penjualan nya.

Mau mepet Tiggo 8 CSH, bakalan lama BEP dari R&D dan tetek bengek nya
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Model cukup menarik. Kalo mau coba obok2 zenix, tipe yg ultimate dijuak d 499, yg exceed 449, GLS 399.

Seru itu barang, bisa mecah crowds yg mau beli Zenix, to some extent ex CRV user, plus org2 yg mau upgrade dr LMPV.
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All hail torsion beam
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faizzz wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:58 All hail torsion beam
Basicnya dari xpander/xforce yg dimelarin khan ya,
Sepintas liat di IG ketika rifat duduk di kursi row 2, lega juga dalemnya

Semoga pricingnya bener, gak amburadul kayak xforce, kalo bisa sih acuannya zenix gasoline, jangan yg hybrid

163ps/250nm menjanjikan sih dengan hentakan turbonya, timbang 170ps/206nm nya zenix gasoline
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Jenson wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:46 Model cukup menarik. Kalo mau coba obok2 zenix, tipe yg ultimate dijuak d 499, yg exceed 449, GLS 399.

Seru itu barang, bisa mecah crowds yg mau beli Zenix, to some extent ex CRV user, plus org2 yg mau upgrade dr LMPV.
Mecah marketnya HRV juga

Akhirnya ada jepang turboh harga 400jt :big_biglaugh:
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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:52 Screenshot_20250717_145004.jpg

Tinggal set harga jgn salah ajah.
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Pk mesinnya eclipse cross
400-500jtan kalo ga salah, infonya dr someone petinggi sana.
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gwsecretc wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 13:49 Ga akan sampai menangis sih, terganggu mungkin iya. 4d56 ini jg ga sebagus yg dibayangkan soalnya gampang overheat dari L300 sampai pajero sport sama aja. Better pakai 4n1 series.
pake 4n14 cocok sih, format disel fwd kyk di delica sama eclipse cross

kata rifat sungkar 4b40 nya udah pke water to air, harusnya ga terlalu ngelag tuh
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Kayanya di head 2 head sama crv gen 6 non hybrid,dulu eclipse cross sih ga laku entah yang ini
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sayang ga dibikin varian diesel pake 4n14 kaya l300, apalagi 4n14 itungannya msh banyak commonality sama 4n15. liat 4n14 delica d:5 non mivec di jepang power outputnya lumayan gede 150ps/360nm. cuma mungkin hambatannya cost masukin girbok aisin 8 speed nya ga ngejer sama harganya, apalagi yg bensin masuk kelas pajak 1500 cc
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Bener tebakan saya palingan Xforce dipanjangin. Tapi Mitsu doang yang produk baru masukin turbo, lainnya udah pada hybrid :big_biglaugh:

Kalau punya eclipse cross common parts aman dong ya, kan mesinnya sama.